(Of course) Graeme thinks so.
Update 1: Bird goes nuts. 10 angry, consecutive posts, but no evidence the birth certificate was forged.
Update 2: Bird believes there’s “no real chance” Obama’s grandmother is dead, but if she is then she was “likely murdered” by Obama.
March 8, 2009 at 3:29 am
I’m glad you brought this one up.
March 8, 2009 at 3:53 am
Make your case, turkey.
March 8, 2009 at 7:00 am
The American constitution stipulates in absolute terms that a President must be a natural born citizen of the United States. All prior American Presidents not born at the time of the formulation of the US constitution have been natural born citizens. There has been only one line-ball case. And thats a President who some think of as Americas finest ever. That is to say Martin Van Buren.
Martin Van Buren was born in an area that wasn’t one of the 13 original colonies at the time of his birth. It was part of United States territory but it had not been granted statehood at the time.
This was a valid line-ball case. Though the clause is really quite clear it had of course not anticipated the unconstitutional Louisiana purchase. Being how this is a valid ambiguity Van Buren and his supporters were completely up front about it. And it was decided honestly that he was eligible. It could have gone any other way.
The essence of the rule of law is that things must not be made up on the fly. Nothing in all of prior American history could justify such an assault on the constitution as to allow someone not to have to justify his elegibility when challenged. The very act of evading the need for proof is itself unprecedented.
Barry is building on the worst excesses of Clinton and the fiscal irresponsibility of Bush to destroy this great nation. And if things are not turned around quickly he will have crippled this country for decades to come and its likely he will destroy the Republic.
March 8, 2009 at 7:54 am
All of which is absolute nonsense and does not make the case that Obama, elected by a majority and endorsed by the Electoral College and Congress, has “usurped” anything.
Who has he “usurped” numbnuts?
He is an American citized born in Hawaii.
March 8, 2009 at 8:53 am
Turkey, you haven’t proved that he was born outside of Hawaii.
I can’t help but feel that if he wasn’t black and called “Hussein” then this nonsense would be a non-starter. After all, Graeme does make free use of the N word and is sympathetic to League of Rights loonies like Quartermain.
March 8, 2009 at 9:46 am
Obama is “tired.”
March 8, 2009 at 10:28 am
Chainsmoking of tobacco and crack cannot really be helping. And the fraud of the century must be playing on his mind and be quite draining.
March 8, 2009 at 10:29 am
JohnZ. Neither you are Barry has proved that he was born inside Hawaii. So we by default go to eyewitness testimony of people who were at his birth. At his bedside at the Coast Providence Hotel in Mombassa Kenya.
March 8, 2009 at 10:33 am
Actually we don’t even do that. By default he’s a usurper on the grounds that for eligibility any applicant in any situation at all must be BOTH WILLING AND ABLE to prove eligibility.
He almost definitely fails on the ABLE criteria. And he fails outright and the WILLING criteria.
Since the rule of law means that law cannot be made on the fly we see that for some strange reason you are disputing the WILLINGNESS criteria. Find me three other examples, prior to the new deal if possible, in any area of human relations, where the willingness criteria does not hold?????
March 8, 2009 at 10:41 am
Turkey, turkey, turkey, do you fact check at all before posting this drivel?
Snopes debunked this nonsense nearly a year ago.
March 8, 2009 at 11:36 am
Snopes is not reliable where Caliph Barry is concerned and of course factcheck is much much worse.
So you will have to make the argument in your own words if you think they have a valid point.
F for fail. You fail the conceptual audit as Ron PaulineHanson would say.
March 8, 2009 at 11:39 am
Ok I checked it out. They don’t make their case at all. Totally full of shit and lacking in all detail.
Snopes fails the conceptual audit as well. They only dealt with a single matter in the forgery. We would not expect any copy to be perfect in all details. And we would not see it as a clear forgery if but for the one factor that Snopes mentioned.
No argument there. The verdict of a forgery is ascertained on massively convergent evidence.
March 8, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Uhhh, turkey, the burden of proof is on YOU.
The birth certificate was posted, Snopes confirmed it was consistent, the case is closed unless new information arrives.
Hand waving about your epistemologically dubious “convergence” won’t score you any points.
Put up or shut up.
March 8, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Hi Birdy,
You can now add another Federal Judge as accomplice in this monumental conspiracy.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/06/federal-judge-obama-citiz_n_172616.html
March 8, 2009 at 1:26 pm
I didn’t call it a conspiracy. Leftists really are pack-animals and truly moronic. They don’t care how fucking stupid they are so long as they are stupid in the group.
This is an ongoing theme of my writing. Whilst probability would tell us that small conspiracies exist all over the place and some large ones, still this is not necessary to account for your behaviour or the behaviour of other leftists since you are all incredilble lunatics and as I mentioned;pack-animals.
March 8, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Bird
He is an American, so the conspiracy schick is just your delusional thinking.
March 8, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Birdy, birdy
“I didn’t call it a conspiracy”
You’ve been all over the internet with your usurper crap claiming amongst others that the certificate of live birth provided by the Hawaiian authorities was a forgery. In other words, that these authorities were accomplices if indeed Barack Obama was not born there. I.e. that there was a conspiracy.
And now that it becomes ever more obvious everyday that YOU were the idiot riding this bandwagon of lunatics you try, again, to evade the question by
You need not be of “the left” to acknowledge that Barack Hussein Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 8th 1961, that he was therefore eligible to President of the Unites States of America, which he was on November 4th 2008.
No exiled Kiwi sheep rapist will change that, get over it!
March 8, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Its not necessarily a case of conspiracy. Few people have stepped forward. Not enough to form a solid front in the face of you mindless Barry-Worshippers.
The Hawaiians have emphasised State Law. They have kept to the straight and narrow of state law out of gutlessness.
But if you want to call their gutlessness a conspiracy I’m fine with that.
Since calling the other blokes opinion conspirational in no way overrides that opinion in logic. So its really just another non-argument from you.
You guys are such incredible pack-animals that you all have the same non-argument-arguments.
March 8, 2009 at 8:51 pm
Birdy, birdy, birdy,
I am not a “Barry-Worshiper” since I am an Australian citizen that doesn’t have a word to say about the free choice of the American people.
What I do know is that Barack Hussein Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 8th 1961, that he was therefore eligible to President of the Unites States of America, which he was on November 4th 2008.
Bring conclusive evidence to the contrary or get over it!
March 8, 2009 at 8:56 pm
BHO was born August 4th 1961 actually
March 8, 2009 at 10:01 pm
Turkey, you’ve lost this argument as well and have resorted to meta-commentary.
Either produce some new evidence or let it slide.
March 8, 2009 at 10:24 pm
No I’ve won this argument. Where is your evidence that you can be eligible in any prior situation WITHOUT WILLINGNESS. Examples. You came up with nothing so I won.
In fact it was too easy. Which it always is when your opponents choose not to make an argument but think they can filibuster.
March 8, 2009 at 10:26 pm
You are not fooling anyone Lyam. You are a Barry Worshipper. As is z, Cambria and a bunch of others. They’d all gotten a bad case of the golden calf.
March 8, 2009 at 10:29 pm
“What I do know is that Barack Hussein Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 8th 1961, that he was therefore eligible to President of the Unites States of America, which he was on November 4th 2008.”
No thats a lie. You are a liar. Which hospital dopey? You see you’ve lost the argument twice over. You know no such thing. And even if it subsequently proved to be right you would still be lying now.
Neither he nor his Mother was ever treated in any Hawaian hospital. No ageing nurse has stepped forward on this matter.
So you lied.
Whereas those who claim to have been at the virgin birth of the new messiah say it was at the Coast Providence Hotel in Mombassa Kenya.
March 8, 2009 at 10:34 pm
“The birth certificate was posted, Snopes confirmed it was consistent, the case is closed unless new information arrives.”
No you are lying. You have the link. They did no such thing. They ASSERTED it was consistent. And it wasn’t. They lied. It wasn’t a birth certificate. So the obvious forgery is a side issue.
You have lost. You’ve just got nothing.
Z get something will you. You are fucking an embarrassment mate. There was at least about ten things wrong with that forgery. The first being that it was not a birth certificate. But snopes only mentioned the embossed seal.
So yo don’t have anything.
Can someone come and tell this stupid cunt Z what evidence is????
This is what happens people, when you tolerate parasites. It destroys their character or even their ability to recognise evidence.
Snopes put nothing on the table that Z didn’t already have. So already lacking any case Z is in filibuster mode. Given that this is the case with all these pack-animals why is Lyan alleging conspiracy?
He’s a pack-animal too.
March 8, 2009 at 10:37 pm
You ask for a lot Z. And you are a dishonest cunt because you won’t answer questions.
Stop the filibuster and address the issue of WILLINGNESS and its crucial role in ELIGIBILITY.
There is no eligibility ever without willingness to prove it. Except in cases of compromised mental fitness.
March 8, 2009 at 10:38 pm
You are such a cunt Z.
Stop wasting time.
WILLINGNESS. Go!!!!!!!
March 8, 2009 at 10:40 pm
From fucking now on you stupid cunt. You’ve got to make an actual case and answer questions as well.
March 8, 2009 at 10:42 pm
“Find me three other examples, prior to the new deal if possible, in any area of human relations, where the willingness criteria does not hold?????”
See that. Right back at the start. And you fucking sidestepped it you mangy yeller cunt.
March 8, 2009 at 10:44 pm
You fucking cunt. You didn’t even acknowledge the point. You are an asshole Z. A couple of guys got arrested near the Mexican border. One guy was in fact an American citizen and he had his birth certificate and they thought it was a fake so he stayed in prison for two months.
Its a serious matter and a birth certificate wouldn’t be enough to resolve it at this late stage.
March 8, 2009 at 10:47 pm
What is it with you, Humphreys and Soon. This is exactly what Humphreys did on the other thread. He just ignored anything he didn’t wish to hear. Then as pack-animals you all pile on and say that the wrong fellow one. Cambria too? Look what you’ve done to the senile old cunt.
And exactly the same here. So this is a taxeater way of life. Always lying. Always filibusting. And always choosing the wrong side on important matters even after being proved wrong.
March 8, 2009 at 11:25 pm
So the fact is that Graeme cannot back up his ridiculous assertion that Obama was born in a hotel in Kenya.
In addition to which he has proven his eligibility.
Now then Graeme, just exactly who is it that Obama has usurped? QUICK!!! GO!!!
March 9, 2009 at 2:12 am
No no you moron. The state of play is that you’ve got nothing to say that he was born in Hawaii. And the reason is he’s never been treated in a Hawaian hospital.
How did you screw it up so badly you idiot. His own grandmother, who saw him being born, testified to where he was born. No such eyewitness can testify to him being born in a Hawaiian hospital and no records of him ever being born or treated in any fashion are present in any Hawaiian hospital. Nor are there any records of his mother being treated in a Hawaiian hospital. To give birth or for any other reason.
So you’ve totally wrong again as always.
If he were eligible the records would be there for a specific hospital. The Kenyan records were specifically made unavailable.
March 9, 2009 at 2:15 am
So isn’t that interesting. Three of you dummies and so far not a shred of evidence for elligibility. And notice how THIS CUNT DH HAS SIDESTEPPED THE ISSUE OF WILLINGNESS AND ELIGIBILITY.
Why has he done this?
Because he is a dishonest cunt.
Is a conspiracy needed for this?
Yes but not a particularly big one. Only foreign regime backing for Barry. Just look how these idiots JohnZ, DH and Lyam behave.
March 9, 2009 at 2:16 am
So nothing. No evidence at all for the Usurpers eligibility. And DH lying as the substitute for his evidence on this matter.
March 9, 2009 at 2:33 am
Graeme
Give up – there’s no point.
The Constitution is a joke at this point.
The USA has an unconstitutional income tax. Unconstitutional paper money. unconstitutional abortion factories, unconstitutional wars, unconstitutional judges enforcing unconstitutional laws.
So let’s just close the circle and have an unconstitutional president. I mean why the fuck not.
You are truly a righteous brother, Graeme, but no one cares. They don’t even care now, as they reap their “investment” in paper money backed by the promises a cohort of cosmopolitan ponzi bankers.
America doesn’t have a true constitution. It has a Ponzi constitution. And all of the senators and judges who salute “President” Obama are Ponzi constitutionalists.
The one hope I have is that this usurper will finally expose the contradictions and the ponzi constitutional system will finally come down.
And when that happens, it will be the men – yes, MEN! – who are well armed and mobile who will survive and prosper.
Men like you and me and Quartermain.
March 9, 2009 at 2:38 am
I bet you think it’s funny don’t you Lyam (or should that be LyaR!?!?!?!) that they “laughed out” that lawsuit against Soetoro.
Just like they do in China if you petition to have a grievance wronged. Why don’t they do like the Soviets and put us all in psychiatric hospitals?
I mean we must be nuts to want to live in a constitutional nation.
March 9, 2009 at 2:39 am
And does anyone really think that Soetoro could have won without cheating? No way.
March 9, 2009 at 2:42 am
“The state of play is that you’ve got nothing to say that he was born in Hawaii.”
Yes. We have a birth certificate from Hawaii. And no birth cerificate from Kenya.
Case closed. You lose.
March 9, 2009 at 2:45 am
more key evidence
March 9, 2009 at 2:46 am
Purple RPH is an imposter.
March 9, 2009 at 2:52 am
Stop lying Ron. You’re the fake. Stop using my monicker.
March 9, 2009 at 2:55 am
March 9, 2009 at 3:00 am
Another righteous man – “ONLY DEATH WILL STOP ME FROM SPEAKING THIS TRUTH!”
March 9, 2009 at 3:04 am
Turkey, are you a conspiracy theorist or not? Either there is a monumental coverup involving dozens of people at multiple levels of the Hawaiian government or there’s not.
A is A turkey. It cannot be both A and B at the same time.
March 9, 2009 at 3:06 am
Yes A IS A indeed.
A IS A
HAWAII IS HAWAII
KENYA IS KENYA
KENYA IS NOT HAWAII
HAWAII IS NOT KENYA
March 9, 2009 at 3:06 am
JohnZ says “A IS A” then in the same breath he says Kenya is Hawaii. What a dumb cunt.
March 9, 2009 at 3:08 am
I can confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii.
March 9, 2009 at 3:09 am
the repentant white folk have found themselves a Good Negro!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Op5or_vkcc&feature=related
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA-SOETORO – the PONZI NEGRO!!!!
March 9, 2009 at 3:13 am
I can also confirm that I, Ron Pauline Hanson, am a deluded paranoid idiot who has a problem with black people.
March 9, 2009 at 3:34 am
Fuck off, DH.
March 9, 2009 at 3:52 am
Can anyone explain why I have a problem with a black person being president?
March 9, 2009 at 3:54 am
pastor manning speaks the truth – we need MASS SACKINGS
March 9, 2009 at 4:03 am
You can laugh at me if you like, but try laughing at Larry Sinclair. This man has a quiet dignity that puts him beyond reproach. Larry Sinclair took a polygraph and PASSED – let’s give Ponzi Barry Soetoro a polygraph and ask him about the crack cocaine and the oral sex – and the birth certificate!!!!!!!!!
March 9, 2009 at 4:13 am
“Larry Sinclair took a polygraph and PASSED”
So what? So did Aldrich Ames. Twice. Polygraphs are useless.
March 9, 2009 at 4:14 am
No you are useless.
March 9, 2009 at 4:15 am
DH’s true colours revealed. Anyone who questions Ponzi Barry the Usurper is a traitor. Despicable.
March 9, 2009 at 4:16 am
If they are so useless, why is Ponzi Barry afraid to take one? What is he hiding from the American people?
March 9, 2009 at 4:18 am
Another Conceptual Audit FAIL for DH. If you don’t start passing, you are going to flunk out of Blog Academy, Chumpo.
March 9, 2009 at 4:19 am
No you are lying.
March 9, 2009 at 4:30 am
“Anyone who questions Ponzi Barry the Usurper is a traitor.”
Oh really? Where has anyone used that term here?
March 9, 2009 at 4:30 am
Birdy and Ron Pauline should get married, they seem to come from the same parallel universe.
To both of you, Barack Hussein Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 8th 1961, that he was therefore eligible to President of the Unites States of America, which he was on November 4th 2008.
Bring conclusive evidence to the contrary or get over it, because the burden of proof is on YOU not him. (Two Federal courts have now confirmed he is legit.)
March 9, 2009 at 4:31 am
And again he is in fact born on August 4th 1961 (managed to do the same txpo twice in a row)
March 9, 2009 at 4:54 am
Shorter RPH: ‘Nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger …’
March 9, 2009 at 4:59 am
Classy, DH.
March 9, 2009 at 5:11 am
Well RPH, it wasn’t me who put up that dross from Pastor Manning. As I recall it was you.
March 9, 2009 at 6:06 am
So bird, please apologize to everyone here and Mr. Obama for suggesting he lied. man-up and fess up, bird.
March 9, 2009 at 6:09 am
Bird
This is another argument you will have to eat humble crow. Baked or boiled, bird.
March 9, 2009 at 7:03 am
10!
Nice work, Z-man. May I suggest some sort of record (possibly with a link) somewhere for posterity’s sake? I think it’s important for us to cherish these moments of excellence in the field of Turkey roasting.
March 9, 2009 at 8:38 am
Here is the fathead DH. ie Don Horaldo. Who I suspect is a pretty close template for Fyodor and the rest of you. He thinks he goes around debunking people. He’s never debunked anyone The guy is an idiot.
March 9, 2009 at 8:41 am
I”ve won this argument. Not one of you have dealt with the question of WILLINGNESS.
I dealt with this question over here:
“The question of eligibility goes like this: If there is an eligibility criteria for anything at all it is the applicant that must prove eligibility. It is never the case that he gets to refuse proving his eligibility and gets to say “You prove that I’m not eligible. You’ve got nothing”. In no case but this one is the onus reversed in this way. Its a measure of just how soundly the Soetoro supporters have been pimped by this marxist and it clearly divides them into the weakminded within the general population. Let me give you an example.
Supposing you are trying to get through Sydney international airport. Supposing you are eligible to enter Australia. You’ve got a valid American passport. You’ve got no pants on. You’ve got a visa. But you refuse to show any of these things. Your pants are in your suitcase and you refuse to wear them preferring to stay naked. You claim that you have your passport but refuse point blank to show it. Same with your visa. From this story we see a couple of things.
1. The story is so ridiculous though it is a near perfect analogy, that we can say that it is not plausible that anyone would be eligible and refuse point blank to prove it.
2. Always and everywhere eligibility must be proven by the applicant. Not disproven by everyone else.
We see an incredible idiocy invading into our culture. Its really dividing the population down the middle with the idiots firmly in the Soetoro supporters camp.”
Always remember that Cambria was a vigourous Barry supporter in the last election. What an embarrassment.
March 9, 2009 at 8:44 am
“Update 1: Bird goes nuts. 10 angry, consecutive posts, but no evidence the birth certificate was forged.”
You moron John Z. Obama has never presented a birth certificate ever.
He forged a certificate of live birth. But he’s never presented a birth certificate at any time.
What a fucking lying cunt you are still suggesting that he’d come up with a birth certificate.
March 9, 2009 at 8:46 am
You people are an embarrassment. Pimped by a homosexual marxist. And you cannot find any evidence whatsoever that he is eligible.
You are just so fucking dumb. I am constantly hounded by lying dumb cunts.
Cambria is the worst. What a fuckwit he is. Makes Don Horaldo look smart and sane with employment prospects.
March 9, 2009 at 9:08 am
Birdy, birdy, birdy,
“The question of eligibility goes like this: If there is an eligibility criteria for anything at all it is the applicant that must prove eligibility.”
He DID prove his eligibility. Hawaiian authorities have declared he was born in Hawaii hence he is a natural born citizen and therefore eligible to the Presidency. This was further confirmed by two separate federal courts.
Your phony “willingness” argument falls completely flat, i.e. nowhere in the US Constitution is it stated that a candidate must convince every nutcase in the world, and in particular Graeme Montgomery Bird, that he is eligible according to their particular interpretation of the procedure.
Further, even if BHO was homosexual and Marxist, neither would make him ineligible. However, the fact that you constantly bring up these stupid non-facts, shows your true motivation. It has nothing to do with the rule of law, but everything to do with your paranoia as well as your sexual prejudices.
March 9, 2009 at 9:32 am
Turkey, are you a conspiracy theorist or not? Either there is a monumental coverup involving dozens of people at multiple levels of the Hawaiian government or there’s not.
A is A turkey. It cannot be both A and B at the same time.
March 9, 2009 at 10:17 am
Not entirely true, Jay-Z: Birdy can be a turkey and a chicken at the same time. Buk-buk, Buk, Buk-Buk-BUKAAA!
March 9, 2009 at 10:29 am
Come on turkey, place your bets.
Otherwise
Buk-buk, Buk, Buk-Buk-BUKAAA!
Buk-buk, Buk, Buk-Buk-BUKAAA!
March 9, 2009 at 10:40 am
You are not fooling anyone Lyam. You are a Barry Worshipper. As is z, Cambria and a bunch of others. They’d all gotten a bad case of the golden calf.
Turkey – calves, sheep, lamb, mutton, the rest of us aren’t into those things. Keep your perversions to yourself. We don’t want to know about your coming of age story at the university of Wakiki Rotoroua Baa Baa Baa
March 9, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Graeme,
What would it take for you to be convinced that Barack Obama is eligible?
March 9, 2009 at 10:03 pm
A BETTER FORGERY WOULD BE NICE!!!!!!!!
That would be a start? At least ask the Usurper to come up with a better forgery. But he’s already missed the boat and obviously so. Because if he could come up with the goods he would not have put everything at risk like he did. So clearly he cannot do it. The enquiry putting him in jail would have to be pervasive. It would have to include every last record he had under wraps. You would have to seize them all. Prove that he got into Columbia as a foreign student. As a student of Indonesian citizenry.
Cognition Via Filibuster
This appears to be the trend of things right now. Its happening everywhere. But we can see it happening already over the Obama eligibility question.
The irrational side of the argument says that Obama is eligible. The reasonable side of the argument says that he isn’t, for one thing on the grounds that he is unwilling to prove his eligibility which in itself is reason enough.
Now the rational side of the argument lays out all its reasons. Says what we know and what we don’t know honestly. Puts forward all the possible hypotheses to explain his failure to be eligible by virtue of his failure to prove eligibility.
And what does the irrational side of the argument do? They just filibuster. We have seen that irrational idiot Edney. We have witnessed the argument-free-zone that is Taranto. But its not just them its everywhere. And its not just this subject its all subjects.
The answer is that these people simply filibuster. And they lie whenever they can.
Short of violence we must make people who do this pay a heavy price for this anti-social behaviour. Since they are foisting enourmous costs on the rest of us by virtue of their willful irrationality and their relentless filibusting on every issue.
March 9, 2009 at 10:14 pm
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qz58SxMhP4Y
Expert going over the fraudulent image that Barry Soetoro put on his website. Very detailed and clear in his explanation.
March 9, 2009 at 10:14 pm
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qz58SxMhP4Y
This fellow busted factcheck colluding to act in a forgery. Let him explain how he knows this.
March 9, 2009 at 10:15 pm
Obama spokesman does a runner when asked about the birth certificate.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G_7sXEt4zQ8
March 9, 2009 at 10:32 pm
Cognition via filibuster…. AMEN, Brother Bird!!!
What else is there to do when the grades come in and you receive a CONCEPTUAL AUDIT FAIL?!?!?!?!??!
March 9, 2009 at 10:46 pm
CONCEPTUAL AUDIT FAIL. Yes I like that phrase Ron. I liked it so much I stole it and ran like a thief in the night.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The kids say that I must prove that fake certificate of live birth was a forgery. They say “prove it.”
Well here is a summary of what was wrong with it. Noticing that Snopes lied and only dealt with one of the following items:
Its not even a birth certificate. Its a “certification of live birth”. The borders of a real one are darker. Entirely different typeface of the numbers on the bottom left-hand corner. This despite the fact that the revision number is the same as the one used to make the comparison. So its not a question of two different certificate types at two different times. Vertical bar of the fake, on the bottom left-hand corner goes down too far. Pressure seal is absent from the Obama fake. Embossed seal is missing from the fake. But on a real one its a pressure seal that a blind man could feel and that can be seen from the back.
On the fake Barracks fathers race is described as African. On a real certificate in 1961 the term would have been negro. But you knew all that.
“….. Pressure seal is absent from the Obama fake…….”
In JohnZ’s Snopes link they only deal with this one item. And really they don’t deal even with that. Completely dodgy feeble excuse. And only for one item at that.
March 9, 2009 at 10:47 pm
CONCEPTUAL AUDIT FAIL gets a CONCEPTUAL AUDIT PASS!
March 9, 2009 at 11:00 pm
“DH’s true colours revealed. Anyone who questions Ponzi Barry the Usurper is a traitor. Despicable.”
Have you ever actually seen DH Ron? Its what happens to you if you get a computer and never again go outdoors. Its pretty frightening stuff. A warning to the rest of us no doubt. A vision of horror.
March 9, 2009 at 11:41 pm
“Have you ever actually seen DH Ron?”
No and I hope I never do.
March 9, 2009 at 11:50 pm
Surely it may be said, that I am a less wise and more sorry individual than what you are Ron.
March 9, 2009 at 11:52 pm
“Its what happens to you if you get a computer and never again go outdoors. Its pretty frightening stuff. A warning to the rest of us no doubt. A vision of horror.”
Ahem:
http://www.ldp.org.au/images/GraemeBird_web.jpg
I’d say you were leading with your chin there Graeme. Except, you know, you don’t actually have one.
March 9, 2009 at 11:56 pm
“The irrational side of the argument says that Obama is eligible.”
Yes, those judges must be complete and utter idiots. To get a BA and JD from a well respected law school must mean you are an idiot (considering how competitive US law schools are). Especially to get appointed to a Federal court from a lower court (which you may have to be elected to) or within the US Federal system as an associate or attorney (also a highly comeptitive sector).
Obviously this is BS and Graeme believes in some kind of conspiracy.
“Its not even a birth certificate. Its a “certification of live birth”.”
I am glad Barry Sotero is not Zombie Obama!
March 9, 2009 at 11:57 pm
Bang on Bird. DH will never look as hot as me:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2377/1915841748_83f7e069c7.jpg
March 10, 2009 at 12:02 am
Holy fucking crap Ron. You may be on the floor laughing and laughing and laughing and I assume you are. But you shouldn’t spring such horrible things on people. Bloody hell mate. Serious decent people follow my writings you know. Some of them put up with a lot of swearing to do so. Don’t bash them about with stuff like that.
What next? You going to stooge people into linking a video of muslims cutting off a Jewish aid workers head with a blunt knife or something?
Its the pride this fellow seems to be taking in himself. Thats the shocking thing about it.
March 10, 2009 at 12:08 am
“Serious decent people follow my writings you know.”
Only because you’re like watching a car-wreck in slow motion Graeme, and we marvel at how you revel in your complete and utter ignorance.
“Some of them put up with a lot of swearing to do so.”
Most of it coming from you.
March 10, 2009 at 12:18 am
Graeme, that link was from the purple RPH aka “DH the Ponzi Ron Pauline Hanson”.
March 10, 2009 at 12:25 am
Graeme,
You think Barry Sotero is a usurper on the basis of his “live birth cert”.
Aren’t you glad he isn’t the leader of a host of undead warriors?
I get it. Graeme is Ash. He is a slave. It is about 1300 in England as the best he can piece it together.
Likely…he is one of Henry’s men!
Klatu Verada Nektu…..
March 10, 2009 at 12:31 am
Mark Hill, cognition through filibuster will not deliver true knowledge.
March 10, 2009 at 12:33 am
‘Graeme, that link was from the purple RPH aka “DH the Ponzi Ron Pauline Hanson”. ‘
No, that’s not true. It’s actually a picture of Ron Rauline Hanson.
March 10, 2009 at 12:35 am
Mark Hill, at some point you are going to have to “mark to market” your absurd theories.
This Ponzi theorising cannot go on forever. The filibuster must end at some point.
And when it does you will be left with a massive cognitive deficit. A conceptual audit FAIL.
And when that happens you will have a pocketful of paper money and a Ponzi President.
A pocketful of IOUs made out to Johnny Chinaman. And not much else.
When that day comes, I hope you enjoy serving your Oriental overlords.
March 10, 2009 at 12:40 am
RPH – the only filibuster is the loony idea that Obama is a Kenyan terrorist Marxist bisexual robot Manchurian candidate granny killing China surrender monkey Indonesian Wahibbi Usuper.
Two Federal courts have basically told complainants to fuck off.
I get paid to do economics, my theories have market value. Graeme’s problem is he doesn’t recognise his markets, which are namely conspiracists and the whole retarded “secret history” mob of tea cosy wearing “the Guv’mint killed my uncle” losers.
March 10, 2009 at 12:41 am
Please disregard my comments Mark. I was wrong and you are right. I acknowledge that I haven’t a clue about anything other than dressing in drag.
March 10, 2009 at 12:44 am
“Two Federal courts have basically told complainants to fuck off.”
yes but will they have the nerve to tell Johnny Chinaman to fuck off when the day comes.
I doubt it.
March 10, 2009 at 12:45 am
when the day comes I think the federal courts that are so brave in defending President Ponzi will say “domo arigato Mr Chinaman thank you for your instructions”.
March 10, 2009 at 12:47 am
I mean these are the same federal courts that say there is an income tax and that paper money is ok when the CONSTITUTION SAYS THEY ARE ILLEGAL
March 10, 2009 at 12:53 am
“I mean these are the same federal courts that say there is an income tax and that paper money is ok when the CONSTITUTION SAYS THEY ARE ILLEGAL”
Rubbish.
Which article notes their illegality? The income tax also unfortunately had an amendment to be made constitutional.
“when the day comes I think the federal courts that are so brave in defending President Ponzi will say “domo arigato Mr Chinaman thank you for your instructions”.”
Yes of course. Anglo-American-Australian multinationals get some Chinese equity and the US court system surrenders the US to the PRC.
Clearly this is a perfectly expectable chain of causation. Now lay off the PCP and crack.
March 10, 2009 at 12:58 am
‘when the day comes I think the federal courts that are so brave in defending President Ponzi will say “domo arigato Mr Chinaman thank you for your instructions”.’
Why on earth would the federal courts be greeting Mr Chinaman in Japanese?
Mark’s right RPH, you should lay off the crack. No, really.
March 10, 2009 at 12:59 am
That’s Chinese for thank you, dimwit.
March 10, 2009 at 1:03 am
It is Japanese actually. Google it. (Cue Sino-Austral-Anglo-American-Japanese conspiracy about google in 5, 4 , 3, 2, ..)
You have got to be taking the piss because Australia cannot have two people as illucid and mentally challenged as Graeme.
March 10, 2009 at 1:04 am
Actually, fucktard, it’s Japanese. Conceptual audit fail for you:
http://www.journaled.com/MA/Aikido/japanese_terms_phrases.htm
March 10, 2009 at 1:42 am
Whatever. Good to see you pair of lying treacherous fucks are boning up on greetings for our new overlords.
March 10, 2009 at 1:58 am
Huh?
‘Our” overlords?
““when the day comes I think the federal courts that are so brave in defending President Ponzi will say “domo arigato Mr Chinaman thank you for your instructions”.”
You realise that most of us are Australian born, Australian residents, right?
Please, tell us how letting companies getting fucked over with no working capital is preferrable to a minority Chinese shareholding?
Clearly you care so much about Australians (or is it Americans you halfwit?) that you want them out of work.
March 10, 2009 at 2:03 am
I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.
March 10, 2009 at 2:08 am
Back you up on that one Mark. The nationality of the minority shareholding matters not a whit. If it allows CRA to draw down its debt and provide capital to expand operations in Australia, then who cares?
But I suspect RPH’s grasp of reality is as good as his grasp of Asian cultures. They’re all just slant-eyes, after all.
March 10, 2009 at 2:12 am
“Back you up on that one Mark.”
What a surprise. The two stooges act in concert as they pursue their program of wanton befuddlement and obfuscation.
March 10, 2009 at 2:13 am
” Ron Pauline Hanson Says:
March 10, 2009 at 2:03 am
I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.”
True colours. We know that Graeme and friends are socialists after all.
“Oh no! A minority shareholding in a golbalised corporation with a small share of total global supply! We’re rooned! Obama’s High Court nominees will hand over Australia to the Chinese with a Japanese language instrument of surrender!”
What idiocy.
March 10, 2009 at 2:14 am
You have got to be taking the piss. Got to be.
March 10, 2009 at 2:17 am
“The two stooges act in concert as they pursue their program of wanton befuddlement and obfuscation.”
Yes Ron. It’s a conspiracy.
March 10, 2009 at 2:56 am
No Mark Hill. I’m not taking the piss. I’m just a patriot.
I’m not surprised you don’t recognise love of country when you see it.
March 10, 2009 at 2:59 am
Wherein ‘love of country’ refers to xenophobic conspiracist nutcase.
March 10, 2009 at 3:51 am
“I’m not surprised you don’t recognise love of country when you see it.”
*“Oh no! A minority shareholding in a globalised corporation with a small share of total global supply! We’re rooned! Obama’s High Court nominees will hand over Australia to the Chinese with a Japanese language instrument of surrender!”*
What ridiculous and unhinged umbrage.
Hey I do love my country. That’s why I don’t want workers on the street due to cash flow problems of head office. But you do.
March 10, 2009 at 3:53 am
Patriot Ron’s latest posts. Just fucking hilarious. Does this guy have a problem with people of the non Anglo-Saxon persuasion or what?
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/eight-constitutional-consequences-of-usurper-barry-taking-the-oath-of-office/#comment-22405
Ron Pauline Hanson Says:
March 10, 2009 at 2:15 am
“We have his Hawaiian birth certificate.”
And now all you need is 30 cents and you can make a phone call.
Hawaii is ridiculously corrupt. Do you have any idea how many Jappos were interned there during WWII for treacherous activities?
And that’s who you rely on to endorse the Ponzi President.
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Just for the record, there were precisely ZERO Japanese-Americans interned in Hawaii during WW2.
This guy is really a few sausages short of a barbecue.
March 10, 2009 at 4:05 am
Yeah that’s it Ron. All hawaiians are traitors.
This guy is yanking our cranks or a world class moron.
March 10, 2009 at 4:06 am
Or a patriot. But you wouldn’t know what that is.
March 10, 2009 at 4:10 am
More batshit insanity:
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/eight-constitutional-consequences-of-usurper-barry-taking-the-oath-of-office/#comment-22410
Ron Pauline Hanson Says:
March 10, 2009 at 3:29 am
The circle of stupidity is complete.
DH says the Jappos get let off in WWII. Hence they are not responsible for the usurper in the White House.
How does that follow, you fucking imbecile? That makes absolutely no sense at all.
Have you considered the possibility that perhaps if they were interned then we wouldn’t have a Ponzi President right now? a foreigner masquerading as a natural born American?
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So, have you got that people? The Obama presidency is the result of a Japanese conspiracy during World War 2. Or something.
They certainly are cunning blighters. Good show their poor eyesight means they can’t fly aircraft.
March 10, 2009 at 4:29 am
It’s not the result of a Jap conspiracy.
But it is the product of a group of limp leftists selling us patriots down the river.
Look I’ve told you before DH.
A is A.
You can mash the buttons on your Casio till the cows come home and it won’t change facts.
A is A.
A natural born citizen is a natural born citizen.
A Kenyan is not.
March 10, 2009 at 4:40 am
“It’s not the result of a Jap conspiracy.”
Oh. So that was just random slagging off at Japanese, then.
Where’s the Kenyan birth certificate?
March 10, 2009 at 5:07 am
I’m sorry RPH. You have to be taking the piss.
“Have you considered the possibility that perhaps if they were interned then we wouldn’t have a Ponzi President right now? a foreigner masquerading as a natural born American?”
If only the Americans nuked the non existant internment camps on Hawaii, then Alan Keyes would be President and China would be shitting themselves every waking moment about the bomb and Dick Cheney would be President.
March 10, 2009 at 5:08 am
I think Ron may have been mucking about a bit when it comes to our good good friends the Japanese. A little bit of reflection will identify them as key strategic allies when a powerful, if not mildly warped, sense of honour. The real problem is with dumb-leftists in my view. They have lost their sense of honour and have become socially suicidal. They dream of being enfeebled high-paid house-slaves rather than free men. They have turned their back on the founding vision of Western Civilisation; the vision of the small hoplite farmer, whose business was his fiefdom, and who would take up arms to defend his freedom personally. The dumb-leftists actions and beliefs all somehow seem to conform to an over-riding zietgeist pointing us all towards the collapse of humane-civilisation.
March 10, 2009 at 5:10 am
“And now DH and MH – the Twins of Twit – say that the answer to our present problem is to go soft on Johnny Chinaman as he buys up our assets.”
OUR assets?
Fuckin’ commie.
March 10, 2009 at 5:10 am
“Where’s the Kenyan birth certificate?”
In Kenya of course. Along with the records at the Coast Providence Hospital Mombassa. Why don’t you ring the hospital up. Don’t ask them if they have the records. You’ll get the answer you want. Demand to see them with some ruse. Then they will fob you off without denying they have the gear.
Give it a shot. But don’t betray us by tipping them off and forcing a story on them.
March 10, 2009 at 5:11 am
then Alan Keyes would be President and China would be shitting themselves every waking moment about the bomb and Dick Cheney would be President.
Well that would work for me!!!
March 10, 2009 at 5:11 am
“Then they will fob you off without denying they have the gear.”
Have you done this Graeme, or are you making another porkie pie?
March 10, 2009 at 5:14 am
I don’t have a problem with the Jappos.
I think most of them are outstanding patriots. Consider the kamikaze. Very honourable. Inscrutable, but honourable.
Not that DH and MH would understand honour or patriotism.
The only problem I have with the Japs is that they aren’t English-speaking patriots. If they were, I’d be happy to have them on our side.
But the point is that if you were looking to start a plan to put a foreign-born usurper in the White House, you wouldn’t start in Wyoming or North Dakota would you.
You would start in Hawaii.
March 10, 2009 at 5:14 am
Get that Ron? Mark is so confused he thinks that opposition to communist nationalisation of our gear is itself communist.
And he HAS NOT BACKED AWAY from his support of communist nationalisation.
March 10, 2009 at 5:15 am
“Well that would work for me!!!”
You must have missed:
“If only the Americans nuked the non existant internment camps on Hawaii”
i.e kill off a few hundred thousand innocent Americans to pander to your delusional conspiracy theories.
But hey. It keeps RPH happy like boning thousands of Australian workers to pander to his communist predilictions about “our” assets.
Remember, “our” money means YOUR money he wants to get his grubby little hands on.
Graeme thinks he is a patriot because he has adopted some foreign lunatic causes. Likewise, RPH thinks he is a patriot for raising the Hammer and Sickle once again.
Go back to Cuba, pinko. (Or alternatively stop taking the piss).
March 10, 2009 at 5:16 am
Alan Keyes AND Dick Cheney as co-presidents.
And Ron Paul as Secretary of the Treasury, in wind-down mode as we convert to constitutional money.
Maybe give defense to Arnie, where his socialistic tendencies might actually do some good.
Scrap the rest.
March 10, 2009 at 5:18 am
“I think most of them are outstanding patriots. Consider the kamikaze. Very honourable. Inscrutable, but honourable.”
Now I know for sure you are taking the piss. The Kamikaze were not honourable. They were victims of the brutal militarism that Japan suffered under and which gave rise to the Japanese creating an Empire by force and treating our soldiers inhumanely and bombing our sovereign soil.
I’ll chuckle when you mock Graeme but you’ve baited me for the last time.
March 10, 2009 at 5:19 am
“Alan Keyes AND Dick Cheney as co-presidents.”
This piss take is getting sloppy. You rambled about unconstitutional income tax before. Co Presidency is unconstitutional too. GO!!!
March 10, 2009 at 5:19 am
That would be a find team Ron. But we can leave the Austrian triangulator in California I think. He has let us down. Codevilla in defense. Keyes as secretary of State.
March 10, 2009 at 5:21 am
Oops. I screwed that one up. Keyes as co-President. Hell what do we need Cheney for? I just wanted him to take over while this Usurpation was dealt with and the homosexual taken away in leg-irons.
March 10, 2009 at 5:22 am
Mark Hill. Here is your chance now to admit that Communist nationalisation is not privatisation, is not anti-communist and ought not be a part of our way of doing things.
March 10, 2009 at 5:22 am
i was just riffing off your suggestion, MH:
“then Alan Keyes would be President … and Dick Cheney would be President”!!!
It’s the only sensible suggestion you’ve made so far, if you ignore its unconstitutionality.
March 10, 2009 at 5:23 am
No Graeme. I want the original of that Kenyan birth certificate personally hand-delivered to everybody NOW!!! QUICK!!! HURRY!!!
Only then can the matter ever really be settled.
March 10, 2009 at 5:23 am
Yes to be honest I am not a huge Cheney fan.
He has always seemed quite at home in the cosmopolitan crowd.
March 10, 2009 at 5:28 am
Suddenly Hill is a constitutionalist now? So he isn’t a constitutionalist when it comes to a marxist homosexual usurper getting access to the American nuclear umbrella. But suddenly he’s a constitutionalist when it comes to visions of the marxist usurper being ousted.
Well we can all see where this young mans North Star is. Pretty close to a hammer and sickle in a red background I would have thought.
March 10, 2009 at 5:34 am
Cracksmoking communist Cenyans in the White House……. the constitution is a living document says Mark.
Communists taking over Australian strategic resources, not sold on the basis that they could be offloaded at a profit to a foreign nation………
… Australia needs foreign capital Marks says.
Two Presidents in the White House…… UNCONSTITUTIONAL Mark says, sensing that neither of them will be communist. On comes the constitutional hat BUT ONLY THEN!!!!!
When the constitutional hat needed to be on Mark couldn’t find it. Probably hidden under various radical posters and multiple copies of Das Kapital.
March 10, 2009 at 5:37 am
Hill says:
“bombing our sovereign soil”
So he admits its OUR DIRT!!!! OURS!!!! OURS ALONE!!!!!
Yet he wants to sell it to the Communist Chinese for a pittance.
Our soil, Mark Hill. Our sovereign soil. That OUR diggers died for.
And you would sell it for a bit of working capital.
March 10, 2009 at 5:38 am
Jesus: Hey Judas. What’s up.
Judas: Oh hey, Jesus.
Jesus: You are looking pretty cashed up.
Judas: Yeah I just got my hands on some WORKING CAPITAL
March 10, 2009 at 5:39 am
Jesus: where’d you get the working capital from, Judas?
Judas: i sold an UNDERPERFORMING ASSET to some FOREIGN AGENTS
March 10, 2009 at 5:49 am
Come on Graeme, fork over that Kenyan birth certificate. HURRY!!!
March 10, 2009 at 6:18 am
Its in Kenya fatty. The Usurping fraud of a treasonous scumbag turd is hardly going to let us get hold of it now is he. Nor are his foreign backers.
March 10, 2009 at 6:19 am
You got it in one Ron. Fisk understands this all too. But at Catallaxy the idea that selling our gear to the communists is not pro-liberty….. well thats a little bit too much for them to manage.
March 10, 2009 at 6:23 am
OK then. You can’t supply it. You have no evidence. You’re a lying fraud. Case closed. Obama was born in Hawaii.
March 10, 2009 at 6:41 am
No actually RPH you commie turd. The Crown, the Aboriginals or private landholders own/ed the land.
Australia is more than land titles or shares in poorly managed resources company.
“marxist homosexual”
Where does the US constitution mention either of these? In fact, you have as much proof of this as you do of Obama being ineleigible.
March 10, 2009 at 6:49 am
Well so its alright in your view then Mark. Are you claiming that its alright for them to break the constitution on the grounds that he is a homosexual marxist?
How does that follow? You can be disqualified outright, but since being a marxist isn’t constitutional YOU’RE IN!!!!
You are just hell on wheels when it comes to logic Mark. Its not unconstitutional to be MALE either. Or an imbecile. So you wouldn’t be ruled out on that basis either. You would be ruled out because other matters would rule you out constitutionally.
March 10, 2009 at 6:53 am
I love how these guys call themselves true patriots when their claims to patriotism involve:
1. Being non native to Australia (okay, that’s a bit slack).
2. Trolling US College forums over the legitimacy of a foreign (US) President
3. Collectivisation of assets to protect Australia from a delusional fear of America’s inveitable surrender to China, made by the US Court system, where the instrument of surrender is written in Japanese and the Chinese overlords make Westerners speak Japanese.
They are not true patriots. They are truly drug fucked and demented (if not taking the piss).
March 10, 2009 at 6:54 am
“Well so its alright in your view then Mark. Are you claiming that its alright for them to break the constitution on the grounds that he is a homosexual marxist?”
No you idiot. If he was a frog fucking Buddhist, it wouldn’t fucking matter either way.
Imbecile. You drug fucked imbecile.
March 10, 2009 at 7:03 am
And don’t you just know, Mark, that if these turkeys ever got within six metres of real power they’d be signing death warrants with both hands.
March 10, 2009 at 7:16 am
Bird
Prove that you’re not an illegal living in Australia without the proper papers.
March 10, 2009 at 7:17 am
MH then:
“you’ve baited me for the last time”
MH now:
“RPH you commie turd”
I guess I am getting a little too close to the truth, huh mark.
March 10, 2009 at 7:20 am
“Australia is more than land titles or shares in poorly managed resources company”
That’s a piss poor argument for abolishing private property and selling “OUR SOVEREIGN SOIL” to a bunch of celestials.
March 10, 2009 at 8:02 am
RPH
“I guess I am getting a little too close to the truth, huh mark.”
Nope just kidding yourself further and further into cognitive dissonance and madness.
March 10, 2009 at 9:05 am
Obama is not eligible to be President of the United States Of America. This is a FACT. Now it might surprise young philosophy students that there is such a thing as an indisputable FACT but then there you are.
The reason why this is a fact, independent of what is written on his birth certificate or anything else, is that in all cases where there are eligibility criteria the person must be WILLING to prove his eligibility.
We see then that its not OK, merely to be ABLE, to prove ones eligibility in these situations. There is also the fact Fact FACT!!!!!!!!! that one must be WILLING to prove eligibility. If one is unwilling to make an effort to prove eligibility then one isn’t eligible unless one is of unsound mind. Maybe you can find an exception to what I say above. Go ahead. That would be good.
So that therefore if you show up at Prague international airport and you have a passport, a Visa to enter Prague international airport. You have your pants on, and you are not carrying any illegal drugs…… well it still remains the case that you lack eligibility to get past the gates, if you refuse to do those simple things that would prove your eligibility.
So you show up at the gates. You refuse point blank to tell them who you are. You won’t show them your Visa. You refuse to wear your pants or underwear. And you’ve stuffed your shirt with all this gear and are telling everyone its hardcore drugs…… Well it doesn’t matter that your Visa would check out, you could CONCEIVABLY put your underpants and your pants back on……. you could CONCEIVABLY demonstrate that you were only joking around about the drugs…. and so forth… Well the fact is you are still not eligible to get through the gates.
So there is not use disputing this matter of Barry-too-white not being eligible. The man who would be President “Obama” is not eligible and there is not even the slightest uncertainty to this matter. And what we see with the people disputing this matter is a coalition of liars. This is yet one more thing that draws his supporters TO the fraudster. The fact that his supporters are dishonest too. They are dishonest. He is a conman. They are drawn to him.
Now another thing. Since the preferred method of Obama’s mindless bunch of messiah-followers for dealing with the FACT-FUCKING-FACT of Obama’s ineligibility….. Since the preferred strategy of the enemy is to lie, play the race card, and to filibuster… Since we know precisely what the dishonest sector of the community will do and how they will behave……. Well because of this we can see in advance that there is some things to look out for.
1. Very much like the WMD nonsense that the left pulled we will find that EVERYTHING WILL RETROSPECTIVELY BE HELD TO HAVE DEPENDED ON THE ONE THING THAT CONSTITUTIONALISTS AND PATRIOTIC AMERICANS SPECULATED WRONGLY ABOUT IN THIS MATTER. So if the certificate, fake or otherwise, claims that he was born in Honolulu…. well the shitrain of leftist jamming-propaganda will be that the whole case rested on the birth place alone. RETROSPECTIVELY it will be claimed that the birthplace was all there is to it. Like Clinton betraying the West by selling military technology to the Chinese and retrospectively it was held that the whole thing came down to blowjobs.
Retrospectively it will be held that the only thing that mattered was the one thing that it is claimed that most people on the rational side of the debate got wrong.
in reality the whole case rests on Obama being willing and ability to prove his eligibility. It rests on both his willingness and his ability to prove his eligibility and not any micronised part of the substantial case that he has to make.
2. An attempt will be made to say that we are discriminating against the Usurper. That no other candidate has had to go to such lengths to prove his eligibility. Well yes we ought to expect a HUGE, AWESOME AND EXHAUSTIVE AMOUNT OF VERIFICATION since no other candidate has acted as dishonestly as this criminal ass-clown fantasist. No other candidate, to my knowledge, has ever forged two documents relating to himself and hidden all the rest of his documents. Hence its only the forgeries that we appear to know about. So of course if you’ve faked up one document we have to assume that any further documents tended are BETTER-FAKES. Thats obvious and only an idiot would think otherwise. Each document must be checked with immense forensic overkill.
3. They will attempt to play the race card. But Pastor Manning has sized that nonsense right up. He’s gives a very good psychological explanation as to why its the Obama supporters that clearly are the racists. And his explanation really seems to accord with anecdotal evidence. The same people who wouldn’t give Alan Keyes the time of day, are precisely the same sort of people who are now devoted to that long-legged Mac Daddy who is skinflinting around pretending to be the President-Elect.
March 10, 2009 at 9:17 am
Has anyone figured out when and where Obama’s grandmother is going to be buried?
Last anyone heard she was still lying on a block of ice. The excuse was that they do things funny in Hawaii. For some reason it was held that they keep people on big blocks of ice. So she’s never had a funeral and no-one knows when she will be buried or where she was buried if she was buried.
But she had exquisite timing in her death. Just at the right time to keep her from answering questions about Barry’s birth. And with just enough time for Barry to get the TV tear-shot. The blatant fraud homo.
March 10, 2009 at 9:30 am
Are you saying the Democrats murdered Obama’s grandmother turkey? This is a new low for you.
Clearly you are a deranged conspiracy theorist.
March 10, 2009 at 9:32 am
No, he’s been saying that Obama killed his Gran.
March 10, 2009 at 9:42 am
Run “Obama murdered grandmother” through google and you see where this nonsense comes from.
Are you certain Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, turkey?
March 10, 2009 at 9:42 am
“That’s a piss poor argument for abolishing private property and selling “OUR SOVEREIGN SOIL” to a bunch of celestials.”
No RPH you commie turd, you want to abolish private property and expropriate privately held British and US interests so a small Chinese equity injection doesn’t dilute Australian shareholdings – none of which the average Australian actually owns.
Graeme,
Prove to me that Bush wasn’t Mexican. He was bilingual and had very good relations with Fox after all. The Mexicans duped us. They lost 1911 and ditched the Krauts in WWI. They were much more clever to put up a Manchurian candidate from “America” (read a native born Mexican in American occupied Texas) to declare proxy wars and sell expensive oil to the gringos and fuck over the New England base of the GOP.
March 10, 2009 at 9:44 am
I’m saying that to this day no-one can find where she was buried or who cremated her. She’s probably watching her grandson on TV from a large apartment building.
The only news of her being sick was that three weeks before her alleged death Barry’s half-sister said on her blog that she had been diagnosed with multiple mylopa. The average time it takes to die after diagnosis of mm is 3 years not 3 weeks.
If she’s dead she was likely murdered. But there is no real chance she is dead.
March 10, 2009 at 9:59 am
Birdy, birdy,
“…in all cases where there are eligibility criteria the person must be WILLING to prove his eligibility.”
I don’t know which ass you pulled that one out of, but in any case not only was he WILLING to prove his eligibility but he actually DID prove it. (Rememeber, Hawaiian authorities + two independent federal courts.)
As for your comments about BHO’s grandmother, they are simply despicable. It’s just raving hate mongering from a paranoid fool who can’t come over the fact a free people democratically elected someone he disapproves of.
You can call anyone of us cunts, commies, traitors etc, we can defend ourselves. But let that woman rest in peace.
March 10, 2009 at 10:01 am
let == leave
March 10, 2009 at 10:01 am
No he didn’t prove his eligibility you are lying.
You cannot even make a case. 20 dollars max would have him a birth certificate. He’s spent 800 000 instead so he doesn’t have to spend 20.
So you are the lunatic here. You are the sheeple. There’s no doubt about that at all.
March 10, 2009 at 10:03 am
“So you are the lunatic here.”
No, he spent $800k because of loonies like you.
“You are the sheeple.”
Fuck you, you self-aggrandising idiot.
Quite frankly I am sick of your pro Mexican proxy wars and ramping up of Mexican oil.
March 10, 2009 at 10:05 am
Why not just spend 20USD and hand over the birth certificate Mark you hey slowpoke? Anything for the Marxist hey Mark?
Here is the story about how Barry was getting illegal money from overseas. And this was by no means unwitting. They purposely broke the law here. This in itself ought to invalidate the elections were this a country that had its act down tight.
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=FWi08HB1UXA
March 10, 2009 at 10:07 am
“Why not just spend 20USD and hand over the birth certificate Mark you hey slowpoke? Anything for the Marxist hey Mark?”
Because of right wing cranks like you. Two Federal courts have settled the matter.
You still haven’t proven Bush wasn’t a Mexican and dupe of the Fox regime.
March 10, 2009 at 10:09 am
I’ve always said that Mark Hill was a real dim bulb.
Mark see if you can redeem yourself by finding out what day of the week Barry’s Granny was buried.
Well how about wiki-answers?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_is_the_funeral_for_Madelyn_Dunham
“The Wall Street Journal quotes a campaign aide as saying the funeral will likely be a private memorial service, taking place later in the year. ”
A magazine allegedly quoting a nobody who doesn’t know, giving an answer to a question that no-one asked. Well thats great going isn’t it?
March 10, 2009 at 10:10 am
Birdy,
Let us make a deal, I will pay your travel expenses, bording expenses and even bribery expenses, if you go to Hawaii and bring back conclusive proof the certificate of live birth is a forgery. (You will most probably get a book contract if you pull that one off.)
FYI, in the latest court case, the loons who launched the suit are going to have to prove to the judge it wasn’t a frivolous case. Otherwise they will have to cash in for BHO’s defense expenses.
You really have to have a shitty beyond recognition case to risk a charge of frivolous lawsuit in the US.
March 10, 2009 at 10:13 am
The certificate of live birth isn’t even in Hawaii. That shows how you know nothing about the subject yet think you know everything. What a dim witted fool you are.
You don’t need to go anywhere to prove its a forgery. Since he had it posted on his website and its been conclusively proved a forgery right there.
March 10, 2009 at 10:14 am
Ah yeah Graeme, a family wants to keep the memorial service for a relative of a new Head of State quiet, and it is a BIG GUV’MIN CONSPIRACY.
Buzz Aldrin is watching you take a shit? No.
The family want to keep it quiet and may have cremated her, which is no one else’s business but their own, you chump.
They don’t have to justify anything to a NZ born Australian loony who thinks their cousin was born in Kenya when he was clearly born in Hawaii.
March 10, 2009 at 10:16 am
“The certificate of live birth isn’t even in Hawaii. That shows how you know nothing about the subject yet think you know everything. What a dim witted fool you are.”
Well where is it you imbecile?
March 10, 2009 at 10:18 am
Who could possibly know that? He made the forgery and posted it on his website. Its a piece of paper Mark you dummy.
March 10, 2009 at 10:22 am
What is very scary is the phenomenon of successful people who cannot get even the easiest thing right. This fellow is not only a huckster. He’s been one of the most shallow swindlers ever. Its not even a polished act except when he’s walking backwards and forwards and there is a teleprompter.
Truly the dumb have become upwardly mobile.
March 10, 2009 at 10:23 am
Birdy, birdy,
“Mark see if you can redeem yourself by finding out what day of the week Barry’s Granny was buried.”
She wasn’t buried she was cremated and her ashes where dispersed on the ocean front:
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=6520841
and
“You don’t need to go anywhere to prove its a forgery. Since he had it posted on his website and its been conclusively proved a forgery right there.”
Nobody proved such a thing (blabering in a Youtube video isn’t a proof).
March 10, 2009 at 10:24 am
Finally. Good stuff. No burying place then. Well who would have thought. Nothing suspicious about your link Lyam? Nothing suspect about it at all?
What day did this all happen? When was the funeral?
March 10, 2009 at 10:26 am
“He made the forgery and posted it on his website.”
How. The. Fuck. Do. You. Know. That?!
“Truly the dumb have become upwardly mobile.”
Farting through silk Graeme?
March 10, 2009 at 10:27 am
So thats 51 days between her alleged death and this no-witnesses mock-up of a funeral.
51 days.
March 10, 2009 at 10:28 am
“Nothing suspicious about your link Lyam? Nothing suspect about it at all?”
Ok biurdy. You now are going to prove to us that ABC News is less credible than a bunch of loons feeding on YouTube videos and goofy blogs such as the WorldNetDaily.
March 10, 2009 at 10:31 am
“What day did this all happen? When was the funeral?”
WTF? Is this some kind of bizzare anti Vatican II “old Catholic” movement that opposes cremation?
March 10, 2009 at 10:32 am
“So thats 51 days between her alleged death and this no-witnesses mock-up of a funeral.
51 days.”
So what there were 46 days between my mother’s death and her funeral. I wasn’t trying to hide anything but simply give the time for her Austrian and Spanish relatives to get organized and be able to attend.
March 10, 2009 at 10:34 am
…and Obama has Kenyan, Indonesian and Hawaiian relatives.
Case closed.
Obama is legitimate and there is no substance to this lunacy.
March 10, 2009 at 10:36 am
No relatives were there Mark. Its just Barry and the kids is it not.
Its precisely what you would expect from the con-artist.
March 10, 2009 at 10:38 am
How do I know Mark? Because he posted it on his website. Scroll up for the details of the fraud. Well he didn’t post it its true. Some minion or other must have.
March 10, 2009 at 10:40 am
51 days. Really outrageous. And obvious gyp. And not even the excuses that Lyam tried to conjure. 51 days.
March 10, 2009 at 10:40 am
Birdy,
Let’s get back to your conspiracy involving at least some Hawaiian officials and two federal judges.
My offer to you to pay for your investigating expenses to bring out “the Truth According To GMB” still holds. (I will pay myself back with the book rights
)
March 10, 2009 at 10:42 am
There’s not a single detail in this story that doesn’t spell G.Y.P
You have your story. But Barry does not. You are an idiot grafting your story onto his.
March 10, 2009 at 10:42 am
Graeme
Pastor Manning is good isn’t he?
Did you see this one?
http://www.videosift.com/video/Obama-is-a-long-legged-mac-daddy-54-Double-Ds
March 10, 2009 at 10:43 am
Pastor Manning is brilliant. An expert Jesus interpreter and my own personal righteousness coach.
March 10, 2009 at 10:45 am
Jesus Christ, what a lunatic and crank GMB is.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=6520841
Obama Attends Memorial for His Grandmother, ‘Toot’
Obama attends memorial for his beloved grandmother ‘Toot,’ who died just before his election
President-elect Barack Obama gathered with family and friends on Tuesday for a private memorial service for the beloved grandmother who helped raise him.
Madelyn Payne Dunham, known to her friends as “Toot”, died Nov. 2, two days before Obama won election to become the nation’s first African-American president. She was 86.
Obama did not speak to reporters at the small home that had been converted into the First Unitarian Church in the neighborhood of Nuuanu. Aides said Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, and her husband, Konrad Ng, also were present.
Following the ceremony, Obama drove to cliffs east of Hononulu. He and about 20 members of his family climbed over a stone wall and down onto rocky ledges to scatter Dunham’s ashes at Lanai Lookout.
Obama earlier this year left flowers at the same cliffs, in memory of his mother.”
Some conspiracy Graeme. Imbecile. You drug fucked imbecile.
March 10, 2009 at 10:47 am
RPH
“Pastor Manning is good isn’t he?”
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Again a net video of a nutcase rambling. That’s all GMB and you have as sources.
No wonder that with such a treatment the organ once called a brain you had inside your skull melted into some gooey jello.
March 10, 2009 at 10:47 am
Game over man.
You accuse only his nuclear family attending but there was 20 or so of the extended family from around the world.
Now crawl back into your cesspool you call a hovel and shut your yap forever.
March 10, 2009 at 11:31 am
“Though the clause is really quite clear it had of course not anticipated the unconstitutional Louisiana purchase. ”
Please explain.
March 10, 2009 at 11:43 am
There was no constitutional authority for the purchase.
And it was funded through ponzi money.
It was really the start of the whole unconstitutional ponzi economy with ponzi diplomacy.
You can trace a straight line from Louisiana to Hawaii.
March 10, 2009 at 11:47 am
Given no one has ever banned fractional reserve (except maybe North Korea), *everything* has been funded by ponzi-money (including Graeme buying his house).
Under the common law, the King could purchase and annex land. The President was and still is subject to common law. It is perfectly legal for heads of State to acquire territory by treaty or purchase if ratified under their own treaty procedures.
You can draw a straight line from Potts Point to Tehran. Your point being?
March 10, 2009 at 11:48 am
Graeme, I like it when Pastor Manning says “I am a diplomat, but I am not a compromiser!!”
That sort of reminds me of you.
A diplomat but not a compromiser.
March 10, 2009 at 11:50 am
“You can draw a straight line from Potts Point to Tehran. ”
That’s the first sensible thing you have said in a long time, MH.
I think it would be very profitable to examine some of the links between Potts Point and Tehran.
The Cosmopolitan meets the Mullah.
Quite a scary thought. Definitely worth exploring.
March 10, 2009 at 11:50 am
“A diplomat but not a compromiser.”
What about his Ponzi money loan that he profiteering off now due to high inflation, an arbitrary transfer of wealth from creditors to debtors?
March 10, 2009 at 11:51 am
“*everything* has been funded by ponzi-money”
And you wonder why the global financial system is collapsing.
What a fucking imbecile.
Grade A Certified moron, this Hill.
March 10, 2009 at 11:53 am
I also like it when Pastor Manning says folks don’t have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot.
That’s Hill for you. Wouldn’t know to pour piss out of a boot.
March 10, 2009 at 11:54 am
Ron,
We’ve had 230+ years of economic growth since the beginning of the industrial revolution.
I may be a moron but I am clever enough not to mess with the finance sector which has been instrumental in funding innovation and risk taking.
The industrial revolution basically went to where the banking sectors were free or lightly regulated.
March 10, 2009 at 11:55 am
“but I am clever enough not to mess with the finance sector which has been instrumental in funding innovation and risk taking”
But you are not clever enough to pour piss out of a boot.
March 10, 2009 at 11:57 am
Unlike Graeme, I actually care for the people who would suffer under his monstrous economic policies like shutting down banks and gaoling bankers.
I care too about miners he would put out of work to pander to his non-native born xenophobia of foreign capital.
March 25, 2009 at 2:14 am
So far nothing for the contrary case?
If it was up to me to make a dishonest contrary case, I could surely do a better job then you!!!! I’d at least be able to invent some fanciful rationale for a rope-a-dope.
March 27, 2009 at 1:10 am
Waiting for a contrary case is a waste of time with you dummies. Look how your stupidity and irrationalism has been advertised here.
This all started really with irrationalism about monetary economics and the climate. Now its a full-blown thing.
Why not just learn logic? Why not just go with reason and evidence?