Commenter DH has got the goods on McCarthy
a) Lied publicly to advance totalitarian forces in Europe against American interests.
b) Sided with enemy forces against American soldiers.
c) Falsely accused American officials of crimes.
d) Took up this tainted cause at least in part because of heavy financial support from an ultra-right-wing German-American businessman in Wisconsin.
e) Managed to help both Nazis and communists at once, a feat rarely seen since the end of the Hitler-Stalin pact.
and
He was a total liar. A complete fraud. Probably also a secret communist in my estimation.
Now, does anyone have evidence against the idea that McCarthy was a closet communist?
April 7, 2009 at 11:17 am
These are all silly lies. I’ve seen a link to Greenspun. But its just a gunsmuggler baiting McCarthy. McCarthy probably left on the grounds that he knew he’d made a mistake and had lost his temper. What else is the point of this story?
Leftists appear to think examples of their own pack-animal behaviour are of a transcendent nature.
So McCarthy makes a verbal mistake, and calls a convicted criminal something by accident, this by the stories own admission, that it was a verbal mistake. He loses his temper. Knows he’s losing his temper (if it was later on he could have been hung over) and then decides to leave on the grounds that he’s been successfully baited.
What else is the significance of this story. Beyond Greenspun playing to the leftist crowd?
April 7, 2009 at 11:47 am
Really, so bird has the pic of a commie, nazi sympathizer as his avatar? No surprise there.
April 7, 2009 at 9:04 pm
You stupid boot nigger cunt. Yeah right. So now the idiots side of every argument filibuster now reckons that Joseph McCarthy was a communist.
You coterie of hardcore cronyists and leftists most realise that third parties read this gear and they know you are morons, people of narrow vision, and of mean spirit.
So here we have a straight leftist-reversal. As if I haven’t been lecturing on leftist tactics these three years.
April 7, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Does anyone have any evidence? Anything at all to suggest McCarthy wasn’t a communist?
April 7, 2009 at 11:21 pm
Mc Carthy accused the army at large of treachery. He was basically a gutless wanker.
Thank God America told him to buzz off before he lead a campaign of Communist witch hunting to the White House. He was an unprincipled fool who was initially elected to Congress with the support of a Communist controlled electrician/electronics union.
Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy were much more experienced and in the end, better able to fight Communism than that shit bird Mc Carthy. None of them forged commendations about themselves.
April 7, 2009 at 11:31 pm
Mc Carthy was an evil Nazi bastard:
“In an incident for which he would be widely criticized, McCarthy lobbied for the commutation of death sentences given to a group of Waffen-SS soldiers convicted of war crimes for carrying out the 1944 Malmedy massacre of American prisoners of war. McCarthy was critical of the convictions because of allegations of torture during the interrogations that led to the German soldiers’ confessions. He charged that the U.S. Army was engaged in a coverup of judicial misconduct, but never presented any evidence to support the accusation.[18] Shortly after this, a poll of the Senate press corps voted McCarthy “the worst U.S. senator” currently in office”
April 7, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Based on his defense of a man who did his best to wreck the effective functioning of the US government at a time of great peril, and that man’s support for SS Nazis who murdered American troops, I think it’s possible that Bird may also be a communist.
It’s time we had a good look at his record to see if he’s actually some sort if fifth-columnist who’s been trying to throw everyone off the scent.
April 8, 2009 at 12:10 am
Is there any EVIDENCE that the obese lardball hasn’t been paid by the Spartacist League to discredit the right?
PS Graeme, you make your twin Lambert look like an Adonis
April 8, 2009 at 1:22 am
I’m actually thinking that Bird is a commie agitator. In fact I’ve always had that at the back of my mind.
The fat fuck could have been sent over to simply cause havoc over the webtubes like his adoration of this drunk.
April 8, 2009 at 2:02 am
Yeah JC the fat fuck is probably to the far left of Mark Bahnisch.
April 8, 2009 at 2:10 am
Yes, I think it’s now pretty evident that Bird worships at the altar of Stalin.
April 8, 2009 at 2:54 am
Graeme’s latest enthusiasm
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/this-is-dog-on-sirius/
<i.Robert Temple isn’t assuming genetic fiddling by fish-tailed foreigners to our solar system. But he thinks there must have been a visitation by strange aliens at some stage. In this theory he is working on the basis of secondary sources. French anthropoligists in Africa who had studied the Dogon tribe …
What happened is Temple got hold of some information about an African tribe that reckoned their distant ancestors had been visited by aliens from Sirius. Or at least that was the French anthropologists interpretation. Now Sirius is visible in the night sky. But these Africans specified Sirius B. Which is not visible and wasn’t discovered until the late 19th century
April 8, 2009 at 3:09 am
Aliens again. You really do have to marvel at his constant willingness to make public his unbridled ignorance and stupidity on just about everything.
Do you think that perhaps ‘Graeme Bird’ doesn’t really exist and that this has all been a decade long experiment in conceptual performance art?
April 8, 2009 at 5:43 am
It could be a spambot, DH, a big fat one
April 8, 2009 at 6:54 am
“McCarthy was critical of the convictions because of allegations of torture during the interrogations that led to the German soldiers’ confessions. ”
Sounds like a very good call to me. What does Kodjo think about it? This would be a good acid test to see if he really is an evil bastard.
You cannot torture people AND sentence them to death. That would be the ultimate violation of sound principles of justice.
April 8, 2009 at 7:38 am
http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauTrials/MalmedyMassacre02.html
April 8, 2009 at 9:12 am
Birdy,
Your latest enthusiasm about a visitation by strange aliens at some stage in our planet’s history shows that you share a fundamental trait with creationists. Namely the confusion between an idea and a scientific theory. Anyone can have an idea while brushing his teeth, but it takes a lot of work to propose and defend a scientific theory.
April 8, 2009 at 11:01 am
No thats all nonsense. You focus too much on belief. I only focus on evidence. But since you focus so much on belief I can tell you that I’m not a believer in the idea that we have been visited recently.
Fundamentally you take an occult view of the situation. The occult view you have is that you can know things that you cannot possibly know. Since we only know stuff via evidence and reason.
You are a very stupid bootnigger Cambria.
April 8, 2009 at 12:59 pm
Bird could be right about aliens visitations
http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ldp.org.au/images/GraemeBird_web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ldp.org.au/Candidates.html&usg=__D25GwAkQ3c9FH-4wg5E3cpjZfnk=&h=150&w=116&sz=26&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=dkhMIcirpgVVxM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=74&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgraeme%2Bbird%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
April 8, 2009 at 1:00 pm
http://www.ldp.org.au/images/GraemeBird_web.jpg
April 8, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Here’s an alien who makes Lambert look like Brad Pitt
http://www.grods.com/post/5570/
April 8, 2009 at 2:33 pm
Steady on there. Lambert even being in the same sentence with brad Pitt is wrong. Just so, so wrong.
April 8, 2009 at 9:22 pm
This is all very cruel. I remember telling Jason in person that my face had got fatter than Lamberts. And of course that photo is worse than the reality most of the time. But not that much worse. I needed to change my contacts for one thing. Needed a lot more sleep. Those huge bags under my eyes. For some reason Leyonhelm wanted a photo and I had kept stalling on it. And then I was too late and needed to take it though I knew I looked unwell.
I think I’d need botox, and six months off just to read and join a swimming squad to even look halfway decent again. I don’t feel I’ve looked any good in the last ten years actually. Cambria’s an idiot. But there is no question he’s kept his act together on the personal appearance side of things. The Cambria mind has grown shabby. But outwardly he still holds it together. Like some sort of mummified Joe 90. After the last year of unrighteousness though, you’d have to wonder about how the portrait in the attic looks.
I take some comfort strangely and partly delusionally no doubt from the wonderful scientist Dr Marohasy. You can see her one month and she’ll look like just a normal middle-aged woman. And then a few months later you’ll catch a picture of her and she’ll look terffic. And ex-model or something. It must be that you evil leftist anti-scientists wear her down with your abuse or tacit approval of same.
April 8, 2009 at 9:43 pm
“d) Took up this tainted cause at least in part because of heavy financial support from an ultra-right-wing German-American businessman in Wisconsin.”
Can anyone tell me what this means? What does ultra-right-wing mean in this context? In those days ultra-right-wing meant a former isolationist. Someone who cared about their fellow Americans enough to want to stay out of the war. For my part I believe in the Wellington (Wellesley) -Reagan strategy. And in the spirit of my favourite Churchill speech. The one where he says:
“Give us the tools
and we’ll finish the JOP”
I misspelled that on purpose because thats the way Churchill said it. In retrospect it looks like it would have been better if the Americans had taken a Reaganesque approach. Not just in retrospect. What am I saying. You look after your own people first. You may have to fight but if you do your first committment is to your own soldiers. A small volunteer army, that stayed away from the frontlines, and pretty strong materiel support but only to people you can trust. You have to keep your best men home, since if you don’t the socialists will use the occasion as an opportunity to screw everything up for everyone and murder millions of people.
You have to be able to deploy massively in order to be able to warn the opposition against continuing its holocausts and wars of extermination, and against attacking your people directly. You have to give the opposition an OUT in most cases. Unless the decision has come to destroy the regime leadership.
April 8, 2009 at 9:46 pm
What does one mean by “ultra-right-wing”. I should think that one wants contributions from righteous rich people that are ultra-right-wing. And given the communist-dominated Washingtons vindicative wishes to annhilate all things German the first order of business was to stop this hateful visciou vindictive communist-party dictated murder.
Destroying regime leadership is a duty of mankind sometimes. But killing pawns is petty vengeance. And the Christians tell us that Vengeance belongs to the almighty alone. And that we ought not act like some oriental animals on horseback once the war is truly won.
April 8, 2009 at 10:10 pm
you hate Churchill since he supported Operation Keelhaul
why quote him, you lying fraud?
April 8, 2009 at 10:13 pm
History: “Waffen-SS soldiers convicted of war crimes for carrying out the 1944 Malmedy massacre of American prisoners of war”
Graeme Montgomery Bird: “pawns”
Conclusion: GMB is a Nazi sympathiser who gets off putting on German uniforms and being violated by a gay skinhead
April 8, 2009 at 11:22 pm
I don’t hate Churchill. People who know me know that I’ve always been something of a Churchill fan.
But this was in the top-ranking most despicable war crimes ever. And what I do know is that the Americans didn’t have their backs against the wall and so the Washington coterie that did it are definitely guilty as sin. Churchills position is more ambiguous and so far I haven’t heard the case for the defense.
April 8, 2009 at 11:25 pm
Well you mention Churchill and you don’t mention Alger Hiss. You mention SS and you don’t mention Cossacks or Spanish Catholics. You mention people engaged in the fighting and you don’t mention their sisters, non-fighting brothers, their women and their children.
But you cannot escape the fact that for two years now I’ve asked you to disavow your support of the mass-murder of innocents, of civilians, of women and children, after the war is already won, and for absolutely no fucking reason at all.
So you are barbarian Mongol scum. And we have to be careful about importing more of you thats for sure.
April 8, 2009 at 11:55 pm
“And then a few months later you’ll catch a picture of her and she’ll look terffic. And ex-model or something. It must be that you evil leftist anti-scientists wear her down with your abuse or tacit approval of same.”
Graeme spuriking skin care: *Argeuriline can stop visible signs of aging, such as leftist reversal filibuster and rightwing tacit approval”
You’re a friggen idiot. The Americans should have Nov 5 observed as Joe Mc Carthy night.
“In retrospect it looks like it would have been better if the Americans had taken a Reaganesque approach.”
Come on now Graeme. This hero worship is getting steadily deleterious. Regan didn’t have the balls to do what tat incompetent fool, GW Bush had the sense to do – regime change.
Now you are simply lying. No one supported torture here. What you seem to be saying is that an incompetent interrogator absolves you of war crimes such as mass murder. It does not. It simply makes the torturer liable for a lengthy prison sentence. The Malmedy gang were rightfully executed.
April 9, 2009 at 12:09 am
No no no.
Evidence. It was EVIDENCE that McCarthy was not a communist that we were after.
April 9, 2009 at 12:10 am
But Reagan DID practice regime-change. He planned and carried out the take-down of the Soviet Union. And he did it with 7000 ICBM’s pointing at him.
Marvellous work. We have to be more like him and Wellesly.
But unlike early 19th Century Britain and Late twentieth century America, anything we want to do we want to do it only with 100% commodity-backed money.
April 9, 2009 at 12:20 am
And the early 19th Century Brits too. That was all regime-change. Thats the entire plan.
Nelson places some tongs on an angle. As this visual demonstration is going on Nelson is saying that it doesn’t matter which way I place these tongs….. but (he picks them up again) if Bonaparte places them (he puts them at 90 degrees) THIS way, then I was place them (he puts them back the other way) LIKE SO.
You see. It was the Bonaparte takedown but with a responsible government that did its best to not get their people killed. Reagan got fuck all Americans killed on his watch. And not many of his more important allied soldiers killed either. It was just OUTSTANDING and I watched every minute of it and cannot understand why it is that no-one learned from the old man.
Wellington had Bonaparte bogged down in Spain. The British Navy had his Coast blocked all the way. He was too scared to take them on at sea. He was right to be scared.
Only when they already had the chips in their favour did the British confront him head on. And only after Bonaparte had escaped the island and made a comeback through sheer bluff-artistry.
Then Wellington took the Master of the Field on directly. And he took him down and the French have never menaced English-Speakers in a more than annoying way to this very day.
April 9, 2009 at 12:36 am
“You mention SS and you don’t mention Cossacks or Spanish Catholics. You mention people engaged in the fighting and you don’t mention their sisters, non-fighting brothers, their women and their children.”
Graeme seems to have a lot of sympathy for the families of Cossacks, Spanish Catholics, and the Waffen-SS, and none for the families of allied troops murdered by them.
April 9, 2009 at 1:48 am
“But unlike early 19th Century Britain and Late twentieth century America, anything we want to do we want to do it only with 100% commodity-backed money.”
What the fuck does have to do with anything?!
April 9, 2009 at 2:12 am
Good grief. Now he’s imagining some incident involving Lord Nelson and tongs. The batshit just gets crazier.
April 9, 2009 at 2:56 am
LOL
Since the Napoleonic Wars, England/Britain has been an ally of France.
With Graeme’s logic, we can conclude that being a menace and getting our butt kicked in the end is good for our well being.
April 9, 2009 at 2:58 am
I dunno Graeme. What about the Vichy French fighting the Commonwealth and The US?
Granted they were not the true French, but your excuses for a lack of regime change etc do not cover the unfortunate fighting and real threats that were present to the US and Comm. servicemen.
April 9, 2009 at 4:26 am
“I dunno Graeme. What about the Vichy French fighting the Commonwealth and The US?”
Churchill destroyed their Navy stationed on the African Coast early on. This when Roosevelt was still trying to negotiate with Vichy. Nominally speaking Vichy was still Churchills ally. He destroyed a big chunk of their navy anyhow right there and then. I don’t know how many young French soldiers he killed. I don’t think he warned them at all. Just up and killed them.
Churchill had gone into battle with a superior adversary. And actually he’d already been militarily defeated. Some commentators are pretty sure that Hitler could have slaughtered far more at Dunkirk and purposely did not do so, so as to stay open to compromise with the British Empire which he was an admirer of.
Anyway Churchill did this. When these kids had been his allies but weeks before. They must have been banging on the walls and screaming for their Mothers before they died.
So let us never ever get into a fair fight again. Fair fights are never good fights. But as nasty as this seems I cannot help but almost admire that level of ruthlessness at that stage of the war. As one commentator said “It sent the message that the old man meant business” or some pretty close quote to that.
But this is at a time when the entire British Isles was in the balance and Britain was pretty much alone in the field. The Western Europeans hadn’t put up any sort of spirited fight and had at least partly been seduced by the Nazis I think. She fought and beat her fists a bit but in the end she pretty much lay down for it.
So I’ll accept THAT sort of harsh ruthlessness. But what I will not accept is Jason Soon claiming that murdering women and children is just fine and according to Hoyles, to do the bidding of a psychopath, when the war is already won.
And you have to put pressure on him behind the scenes. You have to tell him that if he wants to be an Australian that sort of ghoulishness and horrorshow commie advocacy is not on.
And thats the way its going to be and its always going to be that way.
In answer to your question the Vichy French were not a real big problem to us after that. I don’t want to be flippant to anyone who had relatives killed or wounded by them. But my broad statement I think was right. In the overall scheme of things I don’t think they amounted to too much.
April 9, 2009 at 4:40 am
Which women and children were killed in Keelhaul? The people were surrendered over but weren’t only the soliders killed?
April 9, 2009 at 4:43 am
Only someone with as warped and fundamentally ignorant view of history as Graeme could consider Vichy “Churchills ally” when in fact Vichy was a Nazi puppet state.
The guy’s clearly a Nazi sympathiser who has nothing but tears of pity for our adversaries.
April 9, 2009 at 4:44 am
Only someone with as warped and fundamentally ignorant view of history as Graeme could consider Vichy “Churchills ally” when in fact Vichy was a Nazi puppet state.
The guy’s clearly a Nazi sympathiser who has nothing but tears of pity for our adversaries.
April 9, 2009 at 5:32 am
Hundreds of thousands of Soviet Citizen refugees were in Europe when the war ended. It would be very strange had this not been the case. Refugees always fled from warzones and matters are different from now where borders are heavily guarded, papers are universally requested, and the Americans are dropping food packages from the air. It must be understood that the situation was like a much bigger version of the denouement of ‘Nam. Far moreso since far more people could leave by foot from the Soviet Union then could smuggle gold up their ass and find a boat to get on and get out of the hell-hole of Vietnam.
So their were hundreds of thousands of these people with their families in Europe who were technically Soviet Citizens. But we never hear about their story. And thats because we murdered them all.
April 9, 2009 at 5:37 am
“Only someone with as warped and fundamentally ignorant view of history as Graeme could consider Vichy “Churchills ally” when in fact Vichy was a Nazi puppet state.”
Idiotic and retrospective thinking. Since Vichy was at that point only weeks in existence and still portraying themselves as representative of France and after all they had a case for it. You apparently would have known more than Roosevelt since he was still trying to woo them as if they were France. But Churchill was made of sterner stuff and turned around and murdered all these kids who had weeks before been his allies.
As I say this may well be a war crime. I can deal with that sort of ruthlessness in an even rumble to the death which is always going to be very vicious.
But I’ll not tolerate anyone in our midsts that is talking about the mass-slaughter of POW’s, refugees, and their families.
April 9, 2009 at 5:46 am
“But I’ll not tolerate anyone in our midsts that is talking about the mass-slaughter of POW’s”
Except when they’re allied POW’s, apparently.
April 9, 2009 at 5:52 am
What the fuck are you talking about?
I’ll not tolerate anyone going in for murdering POW’s. Not allied. Not enemy. Not anyone.
You murder regime leadership just as soon as you can find a tree and the people can make the noose. You imprison a lot of bad actors in a truth and reconcilliation sort of deal with almost ridiculously lenient sentences if they tell the whole story. You execute just a handfull of the really super-sadistic actors that were not top leadership but only after trial and proof and only in the first few months. After that you may hunt for decades some people that escaped truth and reconcilliation. But they are to serve short prison sentences and social humiliation only.
The killing must come to a dead stop in months. Killing must never be normal. Thats one of the reasons you have to get the bigshots swinging from a rope early on, or some green twine or the brown twine if you cannot get hold of it.
The killing must stop early on.
We are not animals you know.
No matter what these environmentalists and leftist atheists might think about us. (echo Vito).
April 9, 2009 at 5:54 am
Actually this was one of the points the very young young young Helen Skeptic was making when she had suddenly found success and hadn’t come clean on her pseudonym. I mean yes the kid had a lot of things wrong. And yes she was, as far as I can make out from secondary sources, wrongly blaming Jews for their persecution. But I seem to remember one of the main points she was trying to make was that the vindictiveness had to stop.
April 9, 2009 at 6:09 am
So are you guys now FINALLY beginning to twig? Are you now finally seeing the backdrop to what this good Irish Catholic Boy was about?
We cannot ever let our atheistic outlook convince us that we are just animals and that its OK to act that way.
There must have been some reason why we murdered all those people. There must be some reason why we copied the person we were committed to destroying.
And there WAS a reason for that. It wasn’t the vile corruption of people living in the mid-West of America. These were warm-hearted and good people uncorrupted by the war.
It was the cultural control of the leftists in Washington and perhaps some of the media and bighshots in New York….. thats what must have lead to this Stalinist-Hitlerite mass-murder on our part.
So will you NOW take McCarthy seriously.
Surely by now you must be beginning to join the dots.
April 9, 2009 at 6:21 am
Look I have no real patience for hard-core anti-semitism. A little bit of local bigotry towards my Jewish friends, well I reserve the right to be as bigoted as I wannabe.
But I just cannot get with this leftist nastiness towards Helen. I really can’t. Because I think she was just a kid trying to figure out what all this mindless killing was about. And so she didn’t get the perfectly right answer first up.
But you pricks haven’t learnt a damn thing about it even now. I really feel bad that this country has persecuted this young girl. And as an artist you cannot be self-conscious like that. You cannot be worrying that the persecution will start again if one of your bad characters says something nasty.
April 9, 2009 at 7:14 am
Two propositions:
a) Bad: Hard-core anti-semitism
b) Good: A little bit of local bigotry
Discuss.
April 9, 2009 at 7:24 am
Yeah . Go right ahead. Discuss it. Thats a good idea.
Since the fellows who are always trying to catch conservatives out on some sort of gotcha moment are also the ghoulish communist bastards that are attempting to get the Israelis beautiful little children murdered.
Yest discuss it.
Thats a good idea.
I’ve explained it before. The university dum dum cliche was out there that you could run down Israel and be pro-Jew. Anti-Israel and Pro-Jew.
Once I was excluded from a swimming club in East ST Kilda and I’m allowed to be unhappy about that. But what I’m not OK about doing is getting out in public and bitching about them putting a fence up.
Because thats to stop fascists like you murdering their kids.
So I’m saying its the other way around. I’ll be as bigoted as I wannabe. But I’ll not sit still for this constant baiting of Israel to compromise here defensive position.
Thats where I draw the line with you murdering ghouls.
April 9, 2009 at 8:05 am
“Once I was excluded from a swimming club in East ST Kilda…”
Wild, unfounded, speculation welcome.
April 9, 2009 at 8:11 am
Not at all. I showed up at my local swimming pool in Acland street, asked the fellow about the swimming club and he told me straight that I have to be Jewish to join. Thats the Alpha and Omega of this whole story. And I remember getting really pissed on and thinking that “these people” were asking for trouble.
Thats it.
I didn’t break anything.
April 9, 2009 at 9:16 am
Birdy,
“Once I was excluded from a swimming club in East ST Kilda …”
Why am I not surprised? It’s quite obvious that your offensive behavior is not limited to the internet.
What were you doing?
a/ Trying to film women taking a shower.
b/ Showing your tiny dick to little girls in the locker room?
c/ Shitting in the pool?
d/ All of the above?
April 9, 2009 at 1:06 pm
The university dum dum cliche was out there that you could run down Israel and be pro-Jew. Anti-Israel and Pro-Jew.
There are a large number of Israeli Jews who are anti-IDF and yet ‘pro-Jew’, whatever the hell that means.
Look, the Bible says the Hebrews can’t eat pork.
My admittedly allegorical interpretation is that ‘the Hebrews’ means everybody, ‘eat’ means ‘interact sensibly with’, and
‘pork’ means Graeme Bird.
April 9, 2009 at 5:12 pm
So what is your point? Either they have valid complaints about the IDF or they are mad leftists. What is your reasoning there idiot? You think that the Jews don’t also have their own mad leftists? And where is your evidence that such people are supportive of Jews more generally? That doesn’t make any sense. We have our own stupid Australians scuttling us from within. And they have their people doing the same.
Get yourself a proper argument you evil ghoulish cunt. You think its funny having Carlos as a gravitar? Thats funny hey? Real respectful of his victims hey?
You are just scum mate.
April 9, 2009 at 5:17 pm
I was excluded on the basis that I wasn’t Jewish. I made an enquiry as soon as I moved to East St Kilda. I moved out of the area not long after. When I made the enquiry I’d likely been for about two swims but never when the swimming club was around. The swimming pool was a private one. And it has been under different management. I got offered a job at that same pool 7 years later but was on my way to Brisbane.
You are just making idiots of yourselves. There was no non-Jewish member of that swimming club. It was the first time I’d encountered religious/racial discrimination of this sort and so I was offended. Its doubtful that I’d be offended by this sort of thing now.
April 9, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Your lying!
Everybody knows you are a pervert. The debate has moved on.
Show the evidence you didn’t film women while they were showering, and that you didn’t show your tiny dick to little girls in the locker room, and that you didn’t poop in the pool.
Making up stories won’t save you.
April 9, 2009 at 5:43 pm
No you are lying. No non-Jews were members of that swimming club. I don’t really know if I would have wanted to join. I cannot remember whether I would have been bigoted about joining or not. But the fact is I couldn’t join. And I remember being offended about it since Melbourne was only the second Australian City I’d been to and I’d never encountered such a thing before.
This sort of mild and short-lived offense is not on the same scale as killing peoples children. Which is why the true anti-semitism can be seen in those trying to advocate compromising Israels defensive position.
April 9, 2009 at 5:48 pm
You’re lying you stupid bootnigger cunt!
I told you the debate has moved on. We know you filmed women while they were showering, and that you showed your tiny dick to little girls in the locker room, and that you pooped in the pool.
Unless you can show evidence to the contrary those are FACTS.
April 9, 2009 at 8:16 pm
No you are lying. It was news to me that in modern Australia that there were exclusively Jewish clubs. Since I’d never encountered it before I was quite dumbfounded and offended. The whole incident lasted about 30 seconds. I doubt that I’d be offended by this now although its dangerous to have a one-sided thing like this. If Christians and Anglos excluded Jews, Vietnamese or blacks from the various clubs they were running they would be hauled up before some tribunal or other. So we need to have consistent laws and property rights.
April 9, 2009 at 9:12 pm
You’re filibustering again, you cock sucking, fist fucked pervert pig!
No specious arguments or unbelievable stories are going to distract us from the core of this story which shows what degenerated sheep rapist you are.
We know you filmed women while they were showering, and that you showed your tiny dick to little girls in the locker room, and that you pooped in the pool.
Unless you can show evidence to the contrary those are FACTS.
April 9, 2009 at 11:39 pm
No what happens is white Australians are always being baited as racists. That is to say Anglo-Saxons and Anglo-Saxon-Romano-Celts and so forth. But when it comes down to it they seldom have organisations that exlude anyone where as other people do. I hadn’t seen that before and so I remember it was a bit of a shock. The whole thing may have lasted 30 seconds. But since I wasn’t native to Melbourne it really was a bit of a slap in the face.
And inconvenience too. But I ended up joining the Richmond swimming club and was a member until I wound up with my own swimming school. Several years in fact.
April 10, 2009 at 1:09 am
But I ended up joining the Richmond swimming club and was a member until I wound up with my own swimming school.
You wouldn’t have been teaching young kids, would you? Didn’t Munn tell you to stay away from them?
April 10, 2009 at 1:23 am
It’s pretty simple Graeme.
Jews don’t eat pig.
They figured you for a human-pig hybrid. If you’d gotten in their pool, your skin particles would have shedded there and they would’ve involuntarily ingested pig.
April 10, 2009 at 1:50 am
I told Munn to stay away from the kids. They must not have worried about me hanging around the kids too much because they gave me the club champion cup one year and the most improved cup in my first year I think. Either that or they put up with me for the sake of the relays.
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You might be right Jason. I don’t know. In that case they must think that way about all non-Jews. In which case I wouldn’t want to get near their Jew-Germs either. So its important to reserve the right to be as bigoted as you wannabe.
But its your leftist mates wanting to get their kids killed that are the fascists that we cannot tolerate. You know the type. The sort of people who would support operational Keelhaul and other blatantly fascist endeavours.
April 10, 2009 at 3:12 am
Magnificent theory that McCarthy was a communist by the way (idiots).
April 10, 2009 at 3:48 am
what an anti-semite you are.
no wonder you have so much sympathy for the Waffen SS and the Keelhaul Fascists,
April 10, 2009 at 5:55 am
Incredible. You are STILL in favour of the mass-murder of women and children after the war is won. This is the subject you have been more consistent on than any other. Moreso than the inheritance tax, and the capital gains tax.
So the economics training is merely a surface-level grafting on the unreformed fascist underneath.
April 11, 2009 at 12:05 am
that’s right Graeme.
April 11, 2009 at 2:36 am
THAT IS RIGHT. An no time have you backed away from the mass-murder of women and children for Stalin. Uncle Joe you call him.
So thats fascism. A more senseless mass-murder than Hitlers even. For no reason at all but to suck up to a foreign leader.
Not once in three years have you expressed anything but 100% certainty that this was the right thing to do. And so you are, by your own admission, a fascist. There is no doubt about it. Even now you could back away from this holocaust denial and simultaneous support for this holocaust.
April 11, 2009 at 2:37 am
That goes for all commenters on this site. Not once have you expressed any second thoughts about this mass murder. Nor any understanding of someone who might want to stop socialists killing people every after that mass-murdering horror. This very thread is evidence for this.
April 11, 2009 at 5:03 am
This is the absolutely typical holocaust-denial going on by the contributers to this thread.
On the one hand there is the denial that all the refugees were murdered, then there is the running of them down as each and every last one of them war criminals, and then on top of that there is the happiness that they were murdered. And all this wrapped up in a story to do with the cult of personality. In the case of the holocaust-denial to do with the German socialists its the cult of personality with regards to Hitler. And with the holocaust-denial to do with the various American-Socialists in Washingtin its the demonology of people like McCarthy and the cult of personality when it comes to people like Marshall and Roosevelt.
April 11, 2009 at 5:04 am
Bear in mind that Jason Soon has never accepted the reality of the DDT-bureaucratisation-Holocaust either. He and Cambria are Tim Lambert devotees in this regard.
April 11, 2009 at 6:40 am
“…Jason Soon has never accepted the reality of the DDT-bureaucratisation-Holocaus”
And right he is twit.
April 11, 2009 at 11:51 am
And now our Birdy has a new heroin Rep Michelle Bachmann
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/3439/
He really seems on a mission to make an inventory of nutty politicians.
I am surprised he hasn’t yet made an exegesis of the “tea parties” FOX News is promoting.
April 11, 2009 at 8:09 pm
It sounds like a good idea and is part of bringing back the heritage that made the Republic work. Nothing nutty about Michelle Bachman. You have no case there. Argument free as usual fatty.
April 12, 2009 at 8:55 am
What’s the bet that Birdbrain thinks David Irving is an ace historian?
April 12, 2009 at 8:58 am
“Nothing nutty about Michelle Bachman…”
And, oddly enough, he cant even spell her name correctly. It’s ‘Michele Bachmann’ dummy.
April 12, 2009 at 9:18 am
Who cares? We all know who I’m talking about. I did afterall post a video with her in it.
No I don’t think Irving is an ace historian. He’s like most leftist historians. At least he shows up in the archives which is something. But he’s a holocaust-denier. Like every single antagonist of mine on this very thread. Each and every one of you are holocaust deniers like David Irving.
How was that for leftist-projection on your part fatty. Its a pathological problem on the left.
April 12, 2009 at 9:54 pm
Come off it Graeme. You would would have to be one of the biggest anti-semites and holocaust deniers about.
April 12, 2009 at 10:20 pm
No you are lying There is no doubt that the socialist Hitler murdered many of millions of people in the death camps.
Just as there is no doubt that environmentalism murdered many millions of people through seizing and centralising control of DDT. Just as there is no doubt of the murders of Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin and others.
Nor is there any doubt that environmentalist policies caused those fire deaths in Victoria.
You want to be careful about your leftist projection fatty. It could have you beat up or hauled before court at any time.
April 12, 2009 at 10:41 pm
Hey Graeme – seen the latest dirt on your insane hero Orly Taitz? Looks like she’s been exposed as a fraud:
http://defendourfreedoms.net/2009/04/12/understanding-the-internet-102.aspx
April 12, 2009 at 10:49 pm
Don’t you imbeciles and children get sick of attempting to get the last word in? I obviously couldn’t read this entire thread. But nowhere do we see the left getting even a glancing blow against Mr Bird in these arguments. Its quite shocking also to find unrepentant holocaust deniers when it comes to operation keelhaul. To think that such people are so unashamed as to let their repulsive views onto the internet.
April 12, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Graeme Bird, Taliban sympathiser:
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/allied-war-effort-run-by-war-criminals-and-military-incompetents/#respond
our behaviour in Afghanistan is all wrong, and in doing so I’ve shown, just what it is we ought to be doing, as a good ally, instead of continuing with this senselessness in Afghanistan
April 12, 2009 at 10:53 pm
I too have read that thread that Genghis Sun has linked too and there is nothing in it which suggests Mr Bird is a Taliban sympathiser. Another false accusation by the hard left on this grubby website.
April 12, 2009 at 11:03 pm
Dr. Genghis Sun is actually Jason Soon. Jason Soon of Catallaxy. A compulsive liar and a make-believe libertarian. Who is in reality a hard leftist.
April 12, 2009 at 11:34 pm
Don’t be misled Dr Johnson. Bird is actually a communist. Don’t listen to him.
April 13, 2009 at 8:11 am
Let us all note that Graeme Bird is a communist along the lines of Peter Singer who believes that if you do not donate money to prevent starvation you responsible for killing the hungry person. Reason? His complaints about DDT are completely moot because at the end of the day the poor countries cannot afford to buy their own DDT so what he means by ‘ban’[ is really ‘not use our tax dollars as foreign aid to buy them DDT’
Bird is a dirty communist who thinks Africans are entitled to our tax dollars
April 13, 2009 at 8:21 am
You are lying. I explained this exactly on my own blog. And yet even after explaining it, in anticipation of you trying on just this sort of gag, yet you go ahead.
It just shows what a phoney you are. You might have pulled the same gag after Marshalls team betrayed one fourth of the human population to Stalin and Mao.
April 13, 2009 at 8:28 am
We can be sure of a few things about Mr Soon. For starters he’s a eugenicist. And secondly he is fullblown committed against Australian Sovereignty. He only is in favour of liberty for bizzare efficiency reasons and also to protect traitors.
I anticipated and pre-empted your bullshit line of reasoning Jason.
“Thats a pretty standard argument with hard leftists Jason. Its very much reminds me of people suddenly putting on the isolationist hat with the Stalin-Mao capture of China.
You see Marshalls office made their ally sit on his hands when he could have destroyed Mao. But just when Chiang was himself in trouble they pulled aid so Mao could take over. And one supposes that people like you would have suddenly put on the libertarian-isolationist hat the minute the aid question came up. Like there was no history to the situation at all.
We have to get to a situation of almost no foreign aid. But we don’t do so on the basis of giving leftists and holocaust-enablers strategic wins all over the place.”
Thats the exact parallel to what you are saying here. You are lying since you know full well that I don’t think like Singer. And like all your thinking in this case its static-equilibrium so you cannot see the difference.
It would be like finding libertarianism and a need for tax cuts just at that moment that Genghis Khan was breaching the walls of Peking (the same year our King John signed the Magna Carta).
But then again perhaps you would not approve of such treachery if it happened…. RAPE SPAWN THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE.
April 13, 2009 at 8:32 am
Well it was the Mongols. It might not have been Genghis his own self I’ll have to check. And your analysis always lacks the TIME FACTOR.
So you would turn libertarian and not resupply our good friends in Taiwan after an attack. Even though they could have developed nukes on their own but for American assurances. And although a wider term free enterprise perspective would have meant they could have bought low-yield nukes.
Thats where you are going with this. And yes though the government must reduce stealing every year it was wrong to increase stealing in 1963 and suddenly pull the rug out on DDT.
April 13, 2009 at 8:41 am
Right. I checked. The same year our man John was signing Magna Carta was the same year the Mongols took down Peking. And Genghis was indeed still in charge.
This is pretty much symbolic of the difference between my attitudes and yours. You venerate your rapist forefathers and have become a full-blown closet eugenicist.
I’ve fucking sussed you out fella.
April 13, 2009 at 9:16 am
bulllshit Bird
you’re a kumbaya singing hippie who wants to send all our tax dollars to the Africans and surrender to the Taliban savages when we should be nuking them all to hell and letting God sort them out
April 13, 2009 at 9:18 am
I’m pro Taiwan
Taiwan should be able to get all the thermonuclear gear it needs to launch a preemptive strike on Beijing if need be.
April 13, 2009 at 9:22 am
Bird
Please explain again why the Africans are entitled to subsidised DDT?
April 13, 2009 at 9:42 am
I never said they were. I have never advocated subsidies at any time you are lying.
April 13, 2009 at 9:44 am
You are lying about your support of Taiwan also. At another time you said it was a hopeless case and ought be surrendered.
If you change your mind about something you ought let people know. Because you are a multiply suspect person for starters and you have been known to lie all the time.
April 13, 2009 at 11:00 am
“I never said they were. I have never advocated subsidies at any time you are lying.”
You can’t advocate use of DDT without thinking about funding. Besides, there is no such thing as a ban on DDT usage in tropical Africa. There has been a change in strategy to fight malaria in those regions because it was established that DDT alone doesn’t work. Mosquitoes became immune and the whole ecosystem took a beating.
April 13, 2009 at 12:31 pm
I can so advocate the use of DDT without worrying about funding.
You are such a chucklehead Jason.
April 14, 2009 at 12:47 am
Don’t you children get sick of being beaten constantly in debates with Mr Bird. Her wins all your arguments including the ones you vote on.
April 14, 2009 at 12:56 am
I’m into BBMs (Big Beautiful Men) and I think Mr Bird is a BBM of the first rank. That bald head and that chunky body full of junk makes my panties wet. As does his Nazism.
April 14, 2009 at 12:59 am
No, there’s where you’re wrong Gloria. Bird never wins any arguements. He’s way too unintelligent. In fact it’s a miracle he can even use a keyboard.
Still if you can teach a parrot to mimic speech, then I suppose anything’s possible, even for somebody as mentally-challenged as Bird.
April 15, 2009 at 2:01 am
Ahem:
“To use personification just for a moment, you have to send Mother Nature (”Lose the bra bitch, or I’ll cut ya”) a message. You have to grab her, slap her, make her beg, treat her like no laws allow, because Mother Nature is not an avenging Yahweh in drag but rather a Nazi bitch goddess.”
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/environmentalists-want-black-people-dead/
Any psychiatrists out there?
April 15, 2009 at 2:48 am
“…I SHIT YOU NOT I’M NOT A HOMOSEXUAL…”
http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/the-greatest-natural-born-american/#comment-23137
He simply can’t stop lying.
April 15, 2009 at 5:24 am
“So you see these fucking grasshoppers eat the DDT in this story. And this fucking frog eats this motherload of DDT which is eternal. At least if you soak it in fat. And then the fucking trout comes along and he cannot stop eating frogs, complete cunt that he is. Frogs minding his own business and the trout just comes up and eats him like he has nothing better to do.”
Hang the Trout!
May 8, 2009 at 2:15 am
Ruh Roh. Bird believes that the WTC was brought down by controlled demolition. But who might be behind such a fiendish plot?
” I sez it was foreigners. And I sez it might be the same foreigners who would help a usurper into power. The same foreigners who might be able to plant nuclear bombs in all of your cities.”
Oh no! Kenyans?
October 31, 2009 at 3:46 am
I think that ex-Soviet assets must have been up for outsourcing during the 90’s. This is simply on the basis that I would not have thought anyone else was capable of putting this off.