Is Obama an usurper?

(Of course) Graeme thinks so.

Update 1: Bird goes nuts. 10 angry, consecutive posts, but no evidence the birth certificate was forged.

Update 2: Bird believes there’s “no real chance” Obama’s grandmother is dead, but if she is then she was “likely murdered” by Obama.

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217 Responses to “Is Obama an usurper?”

  1. Graeme Bird Says:

    I’m glad you brought this one up.

  2. JohnZ Says:

    Make your case, turkey.

  3. Graeme Bird Says:

    The American constitution stipulates in absolute terms that a President must be a natural born citizen of the United States. All prior American Presidents not born at the time of the formulation of the US constitution have been natural born citizens. There has been only one line-ball case. And thats a President who some think of as Americas finest ever. That is to say Martin Van Buren.

    Martin Van Buren was born in an area that wasn’t one of the 13 original colonies at the time of his birth. It was part of United States territory but it had not been granted statehood at the time.

    This was a valid line-ball case. Though the clause is really quite clear it had of course not anticipated the unconstitutional Louisiana purchase. Being how this is a valid ambiguity Van Buren and his supporters were completely up front about it. And it was decided honestly that he was eligible. It could have gone any other way.

    The essence of the rule of law is that things must not be made up on the fly. Nothing in all of prior American history could justify such an assault on the constitution as to allow someone not to have to justify his elegibility when challenged. The very act of evading the need for proof is itself unprecedented.

    Barry is building on the worst excesses of Clinton and the fiscal irresponsibility of Bush to destroy this great nation. And if things are not turned around quickly he will have crippled this country for decades to come and its likely he will destroy the Republic.

  4. DH Says:

    All of which is absolute nonsense and does not make the case that Obama, elected by a majority and endorsed by the Electoral College and Congress, has “usurped” anything.

    Who has he “usurped” numbnuts?

    He is an American citized born in Hawaii.

  5. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey, you haven’t proved that he was born outside of Hawaii.

    I can’t help but feel that if he wasn’t black and called “Hussein” then this nonsense would be a non-starter. After all, Graeme does make free use of the N word and is sympathetic to League of Rights loonies like Quartermain.

  6. C.L. Says:

    Obama is “tired.”

  7. Graeme Bird Says:

    Chainsmoking of tobacco and crack cannot really be helping. And the fraud of the century must be playing on his mind and be quite draining.

  8. Graeme Bird Says:

    JohnZ. Neither you are Barry has proved that he was born inside Hawaii. So we by default go to eyewitness testimony of people who were at his birth. At his bedside at the Coast Providence Hotel in Mombassa Kenya.

  9. Graeme Bird Says:

    Actually we don’t even do that. By default he’s a usurper on the grounds that for eligibility any applicant in any situation at all must be BOTH WILLING AND ABLE to prove eligibility.

    He almost definitely fails on the ABLE criteria. And he fails outright and the WILLING criteria.

    Since the rule of law means that law cannot be made on the fly we see that for some strange reason you are disputing the WILLINGNESS criteria. Find me three other examples, prior to the new deal if possible, in any area of human relations, where the willingness criteria does not hold?????

  10. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey, turkey, turkey, do you fact check at all before posting this drivel?

    Snopes debunked this nonsense nearly a year ago.

  11. Graeme Bird Says:

    Snopes is not reliable where Caliph Barry is concerned and of course factcheck is much much worse.

    So you will have to make the argument in your own words if you think they have a valid point.

    F for fail. You fail the conceptual audit as Ron PaulineHanson would say.

  12. Graeme Bird Says:

    Ok I checked it out. They don’t make their case at all. Totally full of shit and lacking in all detail.

    Snopes fails the conceptual audit as well. They only dealt with a single matter in the forgery. We would not expect any copy to be perfect in all details. And we would not see it as a clear forgery if but for the one factor that Snopes mentioned.

    No argument there. The verdict of a forgery is ascertained on massively convergent evidence.

  13. JohnZ Says:

    Uhhh, turkey, the burden of proof is on YOU.

    The birth certificate was posted, Snopes confirmed it was consistent, the case is closed unless new information arrives.

    Hand waving about your epistemologically dubious “convergence” won’t score you any points.

    Put up or shut up.

  14. Lyam Says:

    Hi Birdy,

    You can now add another Federal Judge as accomplice in this monumental conspiracy.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/06/federal-judge-obama-citiz_n_172616.html

  15. Graeme Bird Says:

    I didn’t call it a conspiracy. Leftists really are pack-animals and truly moronic. They don’t care how fucking stupid they are so long as they are stupid in the group.

    This is an ongoing theme of my writing. Whilst probability would tell us that small conspiracies exist all over the place and some large ones, still this is not necessary to account for your behaviour or the behaviour of other leftists since you are all incredilble lunatics and as I mentioned;pack-animals.

  16. lol Says:

    Bird

    He is an American, so the conspiracy schick is just your delusional thinking.

  17. Lyam Says:

    Birdy, birdy

    “I didn’t call it a conspiracy”

    You’ve been all over the internet with your usurper crap claiming amongst others that the certificate of live birth provided by the Hawaiian authorities was a forgery. In other words, that these authorities were accomplices if indeed Barack Obama was not born there. I.e. that there was a conspiracy.

    And now that it becomes ever more obvious everyday that YOU were the idiot riding this bandwagon of lunatics you try, again, to evade the question by

    You need not be of “the left” to acknowledge that Barack Hussein Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 8th 1961, that he was therefore eligible to President of the Unites States of America, which he was on November 4th 2008.

    No exiled Kiwi sheep rapist will change that, get over it!

  18. graemebird Says:

    Its not necessarily a case of conspiracy. Few people have stepped forward. Not enough to form a solid front in the face of you mindless Barry-Worshippers.

    The Hawaiians have emphasised State Law. They have kept to the straight and narrow of state law out of gutlessness.

    But if you want to call their gutlessness a conspiracy I’m fine with that.
    Since calling the other blokes opinion conspirational in no way overrides that opinion in logic. So its really just another non-argument from you.

    You guys are such incredible pack-animals that you all have the same non-argument-arguments.

  19. Lyam Says:

    Birdy, birdy, birdy,

    I am not a “Barry-Worshiper” since I am an Australian citizen that doesn’t have a word to say about the free choice of the American people.

    What I do know is that Barack Hussein Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 8th 1961, that he was therefore eligible to President of the Unites States of America, which he was on November 4th 2008.

    Bring conclusive evidence to the contrary or get over it!

  20. Lyam Says:

    BHO was born August 4th 1961 actually 🙂

  21. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey, you’ve lost this argument as well and have resorted to meta-commentary.

    Either produce some new evidence or let it slide.

  22. Graeme Bird Says:

    No I’ve won this argument. Where is your evidence that you can be eligible in any prior situation WITHOUT WILLINGNESS. Examples. You came up with nothing so I won.

    In fact it was too easy. Which it always is when your opponents choose not to make an argument but think they can filibuster.

  23. Graeme Bird Says:

    You are not fooling anyone Lyam. You are a Barry Worshipper. As is z, Cambria and a bunch of others. They’d all gotten a bad case of the golden calf.

  24. Graeme Bird Says:

    “What I do know is that Barack Hussein Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 8th 1961, that he was therefore eligible to President of the Unites States of America, which he was on November 4th 2008.”

    No thats a lie. You are a liar. Which hospital dopey? You see you’ve lost the argument twice over. You know no such thing. And even if it subsequently proved to be right you would still be lying now.

    Neither he nor his Mother was ever treated in any Hawaian hospital. No ageing nurse has stepped forward on this matter.

    So you lied.

    Whereas those who claim to have been at the virgin birth of the new messiah say it was at the Coast Providence Hotel in Mombassa Kenya.

  25. Graeme Bird Says:

    “The birth certificate was posted, Snopes confirmed it was consistent, the case is closed unless new information arrives.”

    No you are lying. You have the link. They did no such thing. They ASSERTED it was consistent. And it wasn’t. They lied. It wasn’t a birth certificate. So the obvious forgery is a side issue.

    You have lost. You’ve just got nothing.

    Z get something will you. You are fucking an embarrassment mate. There was at least about ten things wrong with that forgery. The first being that it was not a birth certificate. But snopes only mentioned the embossed seal.

    So yo don’t have anything.

    Can someone come and tell this stupid cunt Z what evidence is????

    This is what happens people, when you tolerate parasites. It destroys their character or even their ability to recognise evidence.

    Snopes put nothing on the table that Z didn’t already have. So already lacking any case Z is in filibuster mode. Given that this is the case with all these pack-animals why is Lyan alleging conspiracy?

    He’s a pack-animal too.

  26. Graeme Bird Says:

    You ask for a lot Z. And you are a dishonest cunt because you won’t answer questions.

    Stop the filibuster and address the issue of WILLINGNESS and its crucial role in ELIGIBILITY.

    There is no eligibility ever without willingness to prove it. Except in cases of compromised mental fitness.

  27. Graeme Bird Says:

    You are such a cunt Z.

    Stop wasting time.

    WILLINGNESS. Go!!!!!!!

  28. Graeme Bird Says:

    From fucking now on you stupid cunt. You’ve got to make an actual case and answer questions as well.

  29. Graeme Bird Says:

    “Find me three other examples, prior to the new deal if possible, in any area of human relations, where the willingness criteria does not hold?????”

    See that. Right back at the start. And you fucking sidestepped it you mangy yeller cunt.

  30. Graeme Bird Says:

    You fucking cunt. You didn’t even acknowledge the point. You are an asshole Z. A couple of guys got arrested near the Mexican border. One guy was in fact an American citizen and he had his birth certificate and they thought it was a fake so he stayed in prison for two months.

    Its a serious matter and a birth certificate wouldn’t be enough to resolve it at this late stage.

  31. Graeme Bird Says:

    What is it with you, Humphreys and Soon. This is exactly what Humphreys did on the other thread. He just ignored anything he didn’t wish to hear. Then as pack-animals you all pile on and say that the wrong fellow one. Cambria too? Look what you’ve done to the senile old cunt.

    And exactly the same here. So this is a taxeater way of life. Always lying. Always filibusting. And always choosing the wrong side on important matters even after being proved wrong.

  32. DH Says:

    So the fact is that Graeme cannot back up his ridiculous assertion that Obama was born in a hotel in Kenya.

    In addition to which he has proven his eligibility.

    Now then Graeme, just exactly who is it that Obama has usurped? QUICK!!! GO!!!

  33. graemebird Says:

    No no you moron. The state of play is that you’ve got nothing to say that he was born in Hawaii. And the reason is he’s never been treated in a Hawaian hospital.

    How did you screw it up so badly you idiot. His own grandmother, who saw him being born, testified to where he was born. No such eyewitness can testify to him being born in a Hawaiian hospital and no records of him ever being born or treated in any fashion are present in any Hawaiian hospital. Nor are there any records of his mother being treated in a Hawaiian hospital. To give birth or for any other reason.

    So you’ve totally wrong again as always.

    If he were eligible the records would be there for a specific hospital. The Kenyan records were specifically made unavailable.

  34. graemebird Says:

    So isn’t that interesting. Three of you dummies and so far not a shred of evidence for elligibility. And notice how THIS CUNT DH HAS SIDESTEPPED THE ISSUE OF WILLINGNESS AND ELIGIBILITY.

    Why has he done this?

    Because he is a dishonest cunt.

    Is a conspiracy needed for this?

    Yes but not a particularly big one. Only foreign regime backing for Barry. Just look how these idiots JohnZ, DH and Lyam behave.

  35. graemebird Says:

    So nothing. No evidence at all for the Usurpers eligibility. And DH lying as the substitute for his evidence on this matter.

  36. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Graeme

    Give up – there’s no point.

    The Constitution is a joke at this point.

    The USA has an unconstitutional income tax. Unconstitutional paper money. unconstitutional abortion factories, unconstitutional wars, unconstitutional judges enforcing unconstitutional laws.

    So let’s just close the circle and have an unconstitutional president. I mean why the fuck not.

    You are truly a righteous brother, Graeme, but no one cares. They don’t even care now, as they reap their “investment” in paper money backed by the promises a cohort of cosmopolitan ponzi bankers.

    America doesn’t have a true constitution. It has a Ponzi constitution. And all of the senators and judges who salute “President” Obama are Ponzi constitutionalists.

    The one hope I have is that this usurper will finally expose the contradictions and the ponzi constitutional system will finally come down.

    And when that happens, it will be the men – yes, MEN! – who are well armed and mobile who will survive and prosper.

    Men like you and me and Quartermain.

  37. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    I bet you think it’s funny don’t you Lyam (or should that be LyaR!?!?!?!) that they “laughed out” that lawsuit against Soetoro.

    Just like they do in China if you petition to have a grievance wronged. Why don’t they do like the Soviets and put us all in psychiatric hospitals?

    I mean we must be nuts to want to live in a constitutional nation.

  38. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    And does anyone really think that Soetoro could have won without cheating? No way.

  39. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “The state of play is that you’ve got nothing to say that he was born in Hawaii.”

    Yes. We have a birth certificate from Hawaii. And no birth cerificate from Kenya.

    Case closed. You lose.

  40. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    more key evidence

  41. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Purple RPH is an imposter.

  42. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Stop lying Ron. You’re the fake. Stop using my monicker.

  43. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

  44. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Another righteous man – “ONLY DEATH WILL STOP ME FROM SPEAKING THIS TRUTH!”

  45. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey, are you a conspiracy theorist or not? Either there is a monumental coverup involving dozens of people at multiple levels of the Hawaiian government or there’s not.

    A is A turkey. It cannot be both A and B at the same time.

  46. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Yes A IS A indeed.

    A IS A

    HAWAII IS HAWAII

    KENYA IS KENYA

    KENYA IS NOT HAWAII

    HAWAII IS NOT KENYA

  47. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    JohnZ says “A IS A” then in the same breath he says Kenya is Hawaii. What a dumb cunt.

  48. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    I can confirm that Obama was born in Hawaii.

  49. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    the repentant white folk have found themselves a Good Negro!!

    BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA-SOETORO – the PONZI NEGRO!!!!

  50. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    I can also confirm that I, Ron Pauline Hanson, am a deluded paranoid idiot who has a problem with black people.

  51. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Fuck off, DH.

  52. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Can anyone explain why I have a problem with a black person being president?

  53. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    pastor manning speaks the truth – we need MASS SACKINGS

  54. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    You can laugh at me if you like, but try laughing at Larry Sinclair. This man has a quiet dignity that puts him beyond reproach. Larry Sinclair took a polygraph and PASSED – let’s give Ponzi Barry Soetoro a polygraph and ask him about the crack cocaine and the oral sex – and the birth certificate!!!!!!!!!

  55. DH Says:

    “Larry Sinclair took a polygraph and PASSED”

    So what? So did Aldrich Ames. Twice. Polygraphs are useless.

  56. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    No you are useless.

  57. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    DH’s true colours revealed. Anyone who questions Ponzi Barry the Usurper is a traitor. Despicable.

  58. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    If they are so useless, why is Ponzi Barry afraid to take one? What is he hiding from the American people?

  59. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Another Conceptual Audit FAIL for DH. If you don’t start passing, you are going to flunk out of Blog Academy, Chumpo.

  60. Mark Hill Says:

    No you are lying.

  61. DH Says:

    “Anyone who questions Ponzi Barry the Usurper is a traitor.”

    Oh really? Where has anyone used that term here?

  62. Lyam Says:

    Birdy and Ron Pauline should get married, they seem to come from the same parallel universe.

    To both of you, Barack Hussein Obama (Jr) was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 8th 1961, that he was therefore eligible to President of the Unites States of America, which he was on November 4th 2008.

    Bring conclusive evidence to the contrary or get over it, because the burden of proof is on YOU not him. (Two Federal courts have now confirmed he is legit.)

  63. Lyam Says:

    And again he is in fact born on August 4th 1961 (managed to do the same txpo twice in a row) 🙂

  64. DH Says:

    Shorter RPH: ‘Nigger, nigger, nigger, nigger …’

  65. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Classy, DH.

  66. DH Says:

    Well RPH, it wasn’t me who put up that dross from Pastor Manning. As I recall it was you.

  67. the anti-bird Says:

    So bird, please apologize to everyone here and Mr. Obama for suggesting he lied. man-up and fess up, bird.

  68. the anti-bird Says:

    Bird

    This is another argument you will have to eat humble crow. Baked or boiled, bird.

  69. Fyodor Says:

    10!

    Nice work, Z-man. May I suggest some sort of record (possibly with a link) somewhere for posterity’s sake? I think it’s important for us to cherish these moments of excellence in the field of Turkey roasting.

  70. graemebird Says:

    Here is the fathead DH. ie Don Horaldo. Who I suspect is a pretty close template for Fyodor and the rest of you. He thinks he goes around debunking people. He’s never debunked anyone The guy is an idiot.

  71. graemebird Says:

    I”ve won this argument. Not one of you have dealt with the question of WILLINGNESS.

    I dealt with this question over here:

    “The question of eligibility goes like this: If there is an eligibility criteria for anything at all it is the applicant that must prove eligibility. It is never the case that he gets to refuse proving his eligibility and gets to say “You prove that I’m not eligible. You’ve got nothing”. In no case but this one is the onus reversed in this way. Its a measure of just how soundly the Soetoro supporters have been pimped by this marxist and it clearly divides them into the weakminded within the general population. Let me give you an example.

    Supposing you are trying to get through Sydney international airport. Supposing you are eligible to enter Australia. You’ve got a valid American passport. You’ve got no pants on. You’ve got a visa. But you refuse to show any of these things. Your pants are in your suitcase and you refuse to wear them preferring to stay naked. You claim that you have your passport but refuse point blank to show it. Same with your visa. From this story we see a couple of things.

    1. The story is so ridiculous though it is a near perfect analogy, that we can say that it is not plausible that anyone would be eligible and refuse point blank to prove it.

    2. Always and everywhere eligibility must be proven by the applicant. Not disproven by everyone else.

    We see an incredible idiocy invading into our culture. Its really dividing the population down the middle with the idiots firmly in the Soetoro supporters camp.”

    Always remember that Cambria was a vigourous Barry supporter in the last election. What an embarrassment.

  72. graemebird Says:

    “Update 1: Bird goes nuts. 10 angry, consecutive posts, but no evidence the birth certificate was forged.”

    You moron John Z. Obama has never presented a birth certificate ever.

    He forged a certificate of live birth. But he’s never presented a birth certificate at any time.

    What a fucking lying cunt you are still suggesting that he’d come up with a birth certificate.

  73. graemebird Says:

    You people are an embarrassment. Pimped by a homosexual marxist. And you cannot find any evidence whatsoever that he is eligible.

    You are just so fucking dumb. I am constantly hounded by lying dumb cunts.

    Cambria is the worst. What a fuckwit he is. Makes Don Horaldo look smart and sane with employment prospects.

  74. Lyam Says:

    Birdy, birdy, birdy,

    “The question of eligibility goes like this: If there is an eligibility criteria for anything at all it is the applicant that must prove eligibility.”

    He DID prove his eligibility. Hawaiian authorities have declared he was born in Hawaii hence he is a natural born citizen and therefore eligible to the Presidency. This was further confirmed by two separate federal courts.

    Your phony “willingness” argument falls completely flat, i.e. nowhere in the US Constitution is it stated that a candidate must convince every nutcase in the world, and in particular Graeme Montgomery Bird, that he is eligible according to their particular interpretation of the procedure.

    Further, even if BHO was homosexual and Marxist, neither would make him ineligible. However, the fact that you constantly bring up these stupid non-facts, shows your true motivation. It has nothing to do with the rule of law, but everything to do with your paranoia as well as your sexual prejudices.

  75. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey, are you a conspiracy theorist or not? Either there is a monumental coverup involving dozens of people at multiple levels of the Hawaiian government or there’s not.

    A is A turkey. It cannot be both A and B at the same time.

  76. Fyodor Says:

    Not entirely true, Jay-Z: Birdy can be a turkey and a chicken at the same time. Buk-buk, Buk, Buk-Buk-BUKAAA!

  77. Jason Soon Says:

    Come on turkey, place your bets.

    Otherwise

    Buk-buk, Buk, Buk-Buk-BUKAAA!

    Buk-buk, Buk, Buk-Buk-BUKAAA!

  78. Jason Soon Says:

    You are not fooling anyone Lyam. You are a Barry Worshipper. As is z, Cambria and a bunch of others. They’d all gotten a bad case of the golden calf.

    Turkey – calves, sheep, lamb, mutton, the rest of us aren’t into those things. Keep your perversions to yourself. We don’t want to know about your coming of age story at the university of Wakiki Rotoroua Baa Baa Baa

  79. Mark Hill Says:

    Graeme,

    What would it take for you to be convinced that Barack Obama is eligible?

  80. graemebird Says:

    A BETTER FORGERY WOULD BE NICE!!!!!!!!

    That would be a start? At least ask the Usurper to come up with a better forgery. But he’s already missed the boat and obviously so. Because if he could come up with the goods he would not have put everything at risk like he did. So clearly he cannot do it. The enquiry putting him in jail would have to be pervasive. It would have to include every last record he had under wraps. You would have to seize them all. Prove that he got into Columbia as a foreign student. As a student of Indonesian citizenry.

    Cognition Via Filibuster
    This appears to be the trend of things right now. Its happening everywhere. But we can see it happening already over the Obama eligibility question.

    The irrational side of the argument says that Obama is eligible. The reasonable side of the argument says that he isn’t, for one thing on the grounds that he is unwilling to prove his eligibility which in itself is reason enough.

    Now the rational side of the argument lays out all its reasons. Says what we know and what we don’t know honestly. Puts forward all the possible hypotheses to explain his failure to be eligible by virtue of his failure to prove eligibility.

    And what does the irrational side of the argument do? They just filibuster. We have seen that irrational idiot Edney. We have witnessed the argument-free-zone that is Taranto. But its not just them its everywhere. And its not just this subject its all subjects.

    The answer is that these people simply filibuster. And they lie whenever they can.

    Short of violence we must make people who do this pay a heavy price for this anti-social behaviour. Since they are foisting enourmous costs on the rest of us by virtue of their willful irrationality and their relentless filibusting on every issue.

  81. graemebird Says:

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qz58SxMhP4Y

    Expert going over the fraudulent image that Barry Soetoro put on his website. Very detailed and clear in his explanation.

  82. graemebird Says:

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=qz58SxMhP4Y

    This fellow busted factcheck colluding to act in a forgery. Let him explain how he knows this.

  83. graemebird Says:

    Obama spokesman does a runner when asked about the birth certificate.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=G_7sXEt4zQ8

  84. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Cognition via filibuster…. AMEN, Brother Bird!!!

    What else is there to do when the grades come in and you receive a CONCEPTUAL AUDIT FAIL?!?!?!?!??!

  85. Graeme Bird Says:

    CONCEPTUAL AUDIT FAIL. Yes I like that phrase Ron. I liked it so much I stole it and ran like a thief in the night.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    The kids say that I must prove that fake certificate of live birth was a forgery. They say “prove it.”

    Well here is a summary of what was wrong with it. Noticing that Snopes lied and only dealt with one of the following items:

    Its not even a birth certificate. Its a “certification of live birth”. The borders of a real one are darker. Entirely different typeface of the numbers on the bottom left-hand corner. This despite the fact that the revision number is the same as the one used to make the comparison. So its not a question of two different certificate types at two different times. Vertical bar of the fake, on the bottom left-hand corner goes down too far. Pressure seal is absent from the Obama fake. Embossed seal is missing from the fake. But on a real one its a pressure seal that a blind man could feel and that can be seen from the back.

    On the fake Barracks fathers race is described as African. On a real certificate in 1961 the term would have been negro. But you knew all that.

    “….. Pressure seal is absent from the Obama fake…….”

    In JohnZ’s Snopes link they only deal with this one item. And really they don’t deal even with that. Completely dodgy feeble excuse. And only for one item at that.

  86. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    CONCEPTUAL AUDIT FAIL gets a CONCEPTUAL AUDIT PASS!

  87. Graeme Bird Says:

    “DH’s true colours revealed. Anyone who questions Ponzi Barry the Usurper is a traitor. Despicable.”

    Have you ever actually seen DH Ron? Its what happens to you if you get a computer and never again go outdoors. Its pretty frightening stuff. A warning to the rest of us no doubt. A vision of horror.

  88. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “Have you ever actually seen DH Ron?”

    No and I hope I never do.

  89. graemebird Says:

    Surely it may be said, that I am a less wise and more sorry individual than what you are Ron.

  90. DH Says:

    “Its what happens to you if you get a computer and never again go outdoors. Its pretty frightening stuff. A warning to the rest of us no doubt. A vision of horror.”

    Ahem:

    I’d say you were leading with your chin there Graeme. Except, you know, you don’t actually have one.

  91. Mark Hill Says:

    “The irrational side of the argument says that Obama is eligible.”

    Yes, those judges must be complete and utter idiots. To get a BA and JD from a well respected law school must mean you are an idiot (considering how competitive US law schools are). Especially to get appointed to a Federal court from a lower court (which you may have to be elected to) or within the US Federal system as an associate or attorney (also a highly comeptitive sector).

    Obviously this is BS and Graeme believes in some kind of conspiracy.

    “Its not even a birth certificate. Its a “certification of live birth”.”

    I am glad Barry Sotero is not Zombie Obama!

  92. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Bang on Bird. DH will never look as hot as me:

  93. graemebird Says:

    Holy fucking crap Ron. You may be on the floor laughing and laughing and laughing and I assume you are. But you shouldn’t spring such horrible things on people. Bloody hell mate. Serious decent people follow my writings you know. Some of them put up with a lot of swearing to do so. Don’t bash them about with stuff like that.

    What next? You going to stooge people into linking a video of muslims cutting off a Jewish aid workers head with a blunt knife or something?

    Its the pride this fellow seems to be taking in himself. Thats the shocking thing about it.

  94. DH Says:

    “Serious decent people follow my writings you know.”

    Only because you’re like watching a car-wreck in slow motion Graeme, and we marvel at how you revel in your complete and utter ignorance.

    “Some of them put up with a lot of swearing to do so.”

    Most of it coming from you.

  95. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Graeme, that link was from the purple RPH aka “DH the Ponzi Ron Pauline Hanson”.

  96. Mark Hill Says:

    Graeme,

    You think Barry Sotero is a usurper on the basis of his “live birth cert”.

    Aren’t you glad he isn’t the leader of a host of undead warriors?

    I get it. Graeme is Ash. He is a slave. It is about 1300 in England as the best he can piece it together.

    Likely…he is one of Henry’s men!

    Klatu Verada Nektu…..

  97. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Mark Hill, cognition through filibuster will not deliver true knowledge.

  98. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    ‘Graeme, that link was from the purple RPH aka “DH the Ponzi Ron Pauline Hanson”. ‘

    No, that’s not true. It’s actually a picture of Ron Rauline Hanson.

  99. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Mark Hill, at some point you are going to have to “mark to market” your absurd theories.

    This Ponzi theorising cannot go on forever. The filibuster must end at some point.

    And when it does you will be left with a massive cognitive deficit. A conceptual audit FAIL.

    And when that happens you will have a pocketful of paper money and a Ponzi President.

    A pocketful of IOUs made out to Johnny Chinaman. And not much else.

    When that day comes, I hope you enjoy serving your Oriental overlords.

  100. Mark Hill Says:

    RPH – the only filibuster is the loony idea that Obama is a Kenyan terrorist Marxist bisexual robot Manchurian candidate granny killing China surrender monkey Indonesian Wahibbi Usuper.

    Two Federal courts have basically told complainants to fuck off.

    I get paid to do economics, my theories have market value. Graeme’s problem is he doesn’t recognise his markets, which are namely conspiracists and the whole retarded “secret history” mob of tea cosy wearing “the Guv’mint killed my uncle” losers.

  101. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Please disregard my comments Mark. I was wrong and you are right. I acknowledge that I haven’t a clue about anything other than dressing in drag.

  102. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “Two Federal courts have basically told complainants to fuck off.”

    yes but will they have the nerve to tell Johnny Chinaman to fuck off when the day comes.

    I doubt it.

  103. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    when the day comes I think the federal courts that are so brave in defending President Ponzi will say “domo arigato Mr Chinaman thank you for your instructions”.

  104. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    I mean these are the same federal courts that say there is an income tax and that paper money is ok when the CONSTITUTION SAYS THEY ARE ILLEGAL

  105. Mark Hill Says:

    “I mean these are the same federal courts that say there is an income tax and that paper money is ok when the CONSTITUTION SAYS THEY ARE ILLEGAL”

    Rubbish.

    Which article notes their illegality? The income tax also unfortunately had an amendment to be made constitutional.

    “when the day comes I think the federal courts that are so brave in defending President Ponzi will say “domo arigato Mr Chinaman thank you for your instructions”.”

    Yes of course. Anglo-American-Australian multinationals get some Chinese equity and the US court system surrenders the US to the PRC.

    Clearly this is a perfectly expectable chain of causation. Now lay off the PCP and crack.

  106. DH Says:

    ‘when the day comes I think the federal courts that are so brave in defending President Ponzi will say “domo arigato Mr Chinaman thank you for your instructions”.’

    Why on earth would the federal courts be greeting Mr Chinaman in Japanese?

    Mark’s right RPH, you should lay off the crack. No, really.

  107. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    That’s Chinese for thank you, dimwit.

  108. Mark Hill Says:

    It is Japanese actually. Google it. (Cue Sino-Austral-Anglo-American-Japanese conspiracy about google in 5, 4 , 3, 2, ..)

    You have got to be taking the piss because Australia cannot have two people as illucid and mentally challenged as Graeme.

  109. DH Says:

    Actually, fucktard, it’s Japanese. Conceptual audit fail for you:

    http://www.journaled.com/MA/Aikido/japanese_terms_phrases.htm

  110. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Whatever. Good to see you pair of lying treacherous fucks are boning up on greetings for our new overlords.

  111. Mark Hill Says:

    Huh?

    ‘Our” overlords?

    ““when the day comes I think the federal courts that are so brave in defending President Ponzi will say “domo arigato Mr Chinaman thank you for your instructions”.”

    You realise that most of us are Australian born, Australian residents, right?

    Please, tell us how letting companies getting fucked over with no working capital is preferrable to a minority Chinese shareholding?

    Clearly you care so much about Australians (or is it Americans you halfwit?) that you want them out of work.

  112. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.

  113. DH Says:

    Back you up on that one Mark. The nationality of the minority shareholding matters not a whit. If it allows CRA to draw down its debt and provide capital to expand operations in Australia, then who cares?

    But I suspect RPH’s grasp of reality is as good as his grasp of Asian cultures. They’re all just slant-eyes, after all.

  114. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “Back you up on that one Mark.”

    What a surprise. The two stooges act in concert as they pursue their program of wanton befuddlement and obfuscation.

  115. Mark Hill Says:

    ” Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    March 10, 2009 at 2:03 am
    I’d rather die on my feet than live on my knees.”

    True colours. We know that Graeme and friends are socialists after all.

    “Oh no! A minority shareholding in a golbalised corporation with a small share of total global supply! We’re rooned! Obama’s High Court nominees will hand over Australia to the Chinese with a Japanese language instrument of surrender!”

    What idiocy.

  116. Mark Hill Says:

    You have got to be taking the piss. Got to be.

  117. DH Says:

    “The two stooges act in concert as they pursue their program of wanton befuddlement and obfuscation.”

    Yes Ron. It’s a conspiracy.

  118. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    No Mark Hill. I’m not taking the piss. I’m just a patriot.

    I’m not surprised you don’t recognise love of country when you see it.

  119. DH Says:

    Wherein ‘love of country’ refers to xenophobic conspiracist nutcase.

  120. Mark Hill Says:

    “I’m not surprised you don’t recognise love of country when you see it.”

    *“Oh no! A minority shareholding in a globalised corporation with a small share of total global supply! We’re rooned! Obama’s High Court nominees will hand over Australia to the Chinese with a Japanese language instrument of surrender!”*

    What ridiculous and unhinged umbrage.

    Hey I do love my country. That’s why I don’t want workers on the street due to cash flow problems of head office. But you do.

  121. DH Says:

    Patriot Ron’s latest posts. Just fucking hilarious. Does this guy have a problem with people of the non Anglo-Saxon persuasion or what?

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/eight-constitutional-consequences-of-usurper-barry-taking-the-oath-of-office/#comment-22405

    Ron Pauline Hanson Says:
    March 10, 2009 at 2:15 am

    “We have his Hawaiian birth certificate.”

    And now all you need is 30 cents and you can make a phone call.

    Hawaii is ridiculously corrupt. Do you have any idea how many Jappos were interned there during WWII for treacherous activities?

    And that’s who you rely on to endorse the Ponzi President.
    _____________________________________________________

    Just for the record, there were precisely ZERO Japanese-Americans interned in Hawaii during WW2.

    This guy is really a few sausages short of a barbecue.

  122. Mark Hill Says:

    Yeah that’s it Ron. All hawaiians are traitors.

    This guy is yanking our cranks or a world class moron.

  123. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Or a patriot. But you wouldn’t know what that is.

  124. DH Says:

    More batshit insanity:

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2008/11/20/eight-constitutional-consequences-of-usurper-barry-taking-the-oath-of-office/#comment-22410

    Ron Pauline Hanson Says:
    March 10, 2009 at 3:29 am

    The circle of stupidity is complete.

    DH says the Jappos get let off in WWII. Hence they are not responsible for the usurper in the White House.

    How does that follow, you fucking imbecile? That makes absolutely no sense at all.

    Have you considered the possibility that perhaps if they were interned then we wouldn’t have a Ponzi President right now? a foreigner masquerading as a natural born American?
    ________________________________________________________

    So, have you got that people? The Obama presidency is the result of a Japanese conspiracy during World War 2. Or something.

    They certainly are cunning blighters. Good show their poor eyesight means they can’t fly aircraft.

  125. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    It’s not the result of a Jap conspiracy.

    But it is the product of a group of limp leftists selling us patriots down the river.

    Look I’ve told you before DH.

    A is A.

    You can mash the buttons on your Casio till the cows come home and it won’t change facts.

    A is A.

    A natural born citizen is a natural born citizen.

    A Kenyan is not.

  126. DH Says:

    “It’s not the result of a Jap conspiracy.”

    Oh. So that was just random slagging off at Japanese, then.

    Where’s the Kenyan birth certificate?

  127. Mark Hill Says:

    I’m sorry RPH. You have to be taking the piss.

    “Have you considered the possibility that perhaps if they were interned then we wouldn’t have a Ponzi President right now? a foreigner masquerading as a natural born American?”

    If only the Americans nuked the non existant internment camps on Hawaii, then Alan Keyes would be President and China would be shitting themselves every waking moment about the bomb and Dick Cheney would be President.

  128. graemebird Says:

    I think Ron may have been mucking about a bit when it comes to our good good friends the Japanese. A little bit of reflection will identify them as key strategic allies when a powerful, if not mildly warped, sense of honour. The real problem is with dumb-leftists in my view. They have lost their sense of honour and have become socially suicidal. They dream of being enfeebled high-paid house-slaves rather than free men. They have turned their back on the founding vision of Western Civilisation; the vision of the small hoplite farmer, whose business was his fiefdom, and who would take up arms to defend his freedom personally. The dumb-leftists actions and beliefs all somehow seem to conform to an over-riding zietgeist pointing us all towards the collapse of humane-civilisation.

  129. Mark Hill Says:

    “And now DH and MH – the Twins of Twit – say that the answer to our present problem is to go soft on Johnny Chinaman as he buys up our assets.”

    OUR assets?

    Fuckin’ commie.

  130. graemebird Says:

    “Where’s the Kenyan birth certificate?”

    In Kenya of course. Along with the records at the Coast Providence Hospital Mombassa. Why don’t you ring the hospital up. Don’t ask them if they have the records. You’ll get the answer you want. Demand to see them with some ruse. Then they will fob you off without denying they have the gear.

    Give it a shot. But don’t betray us by tipping them off and forcing a story on them.

  131. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    then Alan Keyes would be President and China would be shitting themselves every waking moment about the bomb and Dick Cheney would be President.

    Well that would work for me!!!

  132. Mark Hill Says:

    “Then they will fob you off without denying they have the gear.”

    Have you done this Graeme, or are you making another porkie pie?

  133. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    I don’t have a problem with the Jappos.

    I think most of them are outstanding patriots. Consider the kamikaze. Very honourable. Inscrutable, but honourable.

    Not that DH and MH would understand honour or patriotism.

    The only problem I have with the Japs is that they aren’t English-speaking patriots. If they were, I’d be happy to have them on our side.

    But the point is that if you were looking to start a plan to put a foreign-born usurper in the White House, you wouldn’t start in Wyoming or North Dakota would you.

    You would start in Hawaii.

  134. graemebird Says:

    Get that Ron? Mark is so confused he thinks that opposition to communist nationalisation of our gear is itself communist.

    And he HAS NOT BACKED AWAY from his support of communist nationalisation.

  135. Mark Hill Says:

    “Well that would work for me!!!”

    You must have missed:

    “If only the Americans nuked the non existant internment camps on Hawaii”

    i.e kill off a few hundred thousand innocent Americans to pander to your delusional conspiracy theories.

    But hey. It keeps RPH happy like boning thousands of Australian workers to pander to his communist predilictions about “our” assets.

    Remember, “our” money means YOUR money he wants to get his grubby little hands on.

    Graeme thinks he is a patriot because he has adopted some foreign lunatic causes. Likewise, RPH thinks he is a patriot for raising the Hammer and Sickle once again.

    Go back to Cuba, pinko. (Or alternatively stop taking the piss).

  136. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Alan Keyes AND Dick Cheney as co-presidents.

    And Ron Paul as Secretary of the Treasury, in wind-down mode as we convert to constitutional money.

    Maybe give defense to Arnie, where his socialistic tendencies might actually do some good.

    Scrap the rest.

  137. Mark Hill Says:

    “I think most of them are outstanding patriots. Consider the kamikaze. Very honourable. Inscrutable, but honourable.”

    Now I know for sure you are taking the piss. The Kamikaze were not honourable. They were victims of the brutal militarism that Japan suffered under and which gave rise to the Japanese creating an Empire by force and treating our soldiers inhumanely and bombing our sovereign soil.

    I’ll chuckle when you mock Graeme but you’ve baited me for the last time.

  138. Mark Hill Says:

    “Alan Keyes AND Dick Cheney as co-presidents.”

    This piss take is getting sloppy. You rambled about unconstitutional income tax before. Co Presidency is unconstitutional too. GO!!!

  139. graemebird Says:

    That would be a find team Ron. But we can leave the Austrian triangulator in California I think. He has let us down. Codevilla in defense. Keyes as secretary of State.

  140. graemebird Says:

    Oops. I screwed that one up. Keyes as co-President. Hell what do we need Cheney for? I just wanted him to take over while this Usurpation was dealt with and the homosexual taken away in leg-irons.

  141. graemebird Says:

    Mark Hill. Here is your chance now to admit that Communist nationalisation is not privatisation, is not anti-communist and ought not be a part of our way of doing things.

  142. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    i was just riffing off your suggestion, MH:

    “then Alan Keyes would be President … and Dick Cheney would be President”!!!

    It’s the only sensible suggestion you’ve made so far, if you ignore its unconstitutionality.

  143. DH Says:

    No Graeme. I want the original of that Kenyan birth certificate personally hand-delivered to everybody NOW!!! QUICK!!! HURRY!!!

    Only then can the matter ever really be settled.

  144. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Yes to be honest I am not a huge Cheney fan.

    He has always seemed quite at home in the cosmopolitan crowd.

  145. graemebird Says:

    Suddenly Hill is a constitutionalist now? So he isn’t a constitutionalist when it comes to a marxist homosexual usurper getting access to the American nuclear umbrella. But suddenly he’s a constitutionalist when it comes to visions of the marxist usurper being ousted.

    Well we can all see where this young mans North Star is. Pretty close to a hammer and sickle in a red background I would have thought.

  146. graemebird Says:

    Cracksmoking communist Cenyans in the White House……. the constitution is a living document says Mark.

    Communists taking over Australian strategic resources, not sold on the basis that they could be offloaded at a profit to a foreign nation………

    … Australia needs foreign capital Marks says.

    Two Presidents in the White House…… UNCONSTITUTIONAL Mark says, sensing that neither of them will be communist. On comes the constitutional hat BUT ONLY THEN!!!!!

    When the constitutional hat needed to be on Mark couldn’t find it. Probably hidden under various radical posters and multiple copies of Das Kapital.

  147. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Hill says:

    “bombing our sovereign soil”

    So he admits its OUR DIRT!!!! OURS!!!! OURS ALONE!!!!!

    Yet he wants to sell it to the Communist Chinese for a pittance.

    Our soil, Mark Hill. Our sovereign soil. That OUR diggers died for.

    And you would sell it for a bit of working capital.

  148. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Jesus: Hey Judas. What’s up.

    Judas: Oh hey, Jesus.

    Jesus: You are looking pretty cashed up.

    Judas: Yeah I just got my hands on some WORKING CAPITAL

  149. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Jesus: where’d you get the working capital from, Judas?

    Judas: i sold an UNDERPERFORMING ASSET to some FOREIGN AGENTS

  150. DH Says:

    Come on Graeme, fork over that Kenyan birth certificate. HURRY!!!

  151. graemebird Says:

    Its in Kenya fatty. The Usurping fraud of a treasonous scumbag turd is hardly going to let us get hold of it now is he. Nor are his foreign backers.

  152. graemebird Says:

    You got it in one Ron. Fisk understands this all too. But at Catallaxy the idea that selling our gear to the communists is not pro-liberty….. well thats a little bit too much for them to manage.

  153. DH Says:

    OK then. You can’t supply it. You have no evidence. You’re a lying fraud. Case closed. Obama was born in Hawaii.

  154. Mark Hill Says:

    No actually RPH you commie turd. The Crown, the Aboriginals or private landholders own/ed the land.

    Australia is more than land titles or shares in poorly managed resources company.

    “marxist homosexual”

    Where does the US constitution mention either of these? In fact, you have as much proof of this as you do of Obama being ineleigible.

  155. graemebird Says:

    Well so its alright in your view then Mark. Are you claiming that its alright for them to break the constitution on the grounds that he is a homosexual marxist?

    How does that follow? You can be disqualified outright, but since being a marxist isn’t constitutional YOU’RE IN!!!!

    You are just hell on wheels when it comes to logic Mark. Its not unconstitutional to be MALE either. Or an imbecile. So you wouldn’t be ruled out on that basis either. You would be ruled out because other matters would rule you out constitutionally.

  156. Mark Hill Says:

    I love how these guys call themselves true patriots when their claims to patriotism involve:

    1. Being non native to Australia (okay, that’s a bit slack).

    2. Trolling US College forums over the legitimacy of a foreign (US) President

    3. Collectivisation of assets to protect Australia from a delusional fear of America’s inveitable surrender to China, made by the US Court system, where the instrument of surrender is written in Japanese and the Chinese overlords make Westerners speak Japanese.

    They are not true patriots. They are truly drug fucked and demented (if not taking the piss).

  157. Mark Hill Says:

    “Well so its alright in your view then Mark. Are you claiming that its alright for them to break the constitution on the grounds that he is a homosexual marxist?”

    No you idiot. If he was a frog fucking Buddhist, it wouldn’t fucking matter either way.

    Imbecile. You drug fucked imbecile.

  158. DH Says:

    And don’t you just know, Mark, that if these turkeys ever got within six metres of real power they’d be signing death warrants with both hands.

  159. the anti-bird Says:

    Bird

    Prove that you’re not an illegal living in Australia without the proper papers.

  160. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    MH then:

    “you’ve baited me for the last time”

    MH now:

    “RPH you commie turd”

    I guess I am getting a little too close to the truth, huh mark.

  161. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “Australia is more than land titles or shares in poorly managed resources company”

    That’s a piss poor argument for abolishing private property and selling “OUR SOVEREIGN SOIL” to a bunch of celestials.

  162. Lyam Says:

    RPH

    “I guess I am getting a little too close to the truth, huh mark.”

    Nope just kidding yourself further and further into cognitive dissonance and madness.

  163. graemebird Says:

    Obama is not eligible to be President of the United States Of America. This is a FACT. Now it might surprise young philosophy students that there is such a thing as an indisputable FACT but then there you are.

    The reason why this is a fact, independent of what is written on his birth certificate or anything else, is that in all cases where there are eligibility criteria the person must be WILLING to prove his eligibility.

    We see then that its not OK, merely to be ABLE, to prove ones eligibility in these situations. There is also the fact Fact FACT!!!!!!!!! that one must be WILLING to prove eligibility. If one is unwilling to make an effort to prove eligibility then one isn’t eligible unless one is of unsound mind. Maybe you can find an exception to what I say above. Go ahead. That would be good.

    So that therefore if you show up at Prague international airport and you have a passport, a Visa to enter Prague international airport. You have your pants on, and you are not carrying any illegal drugs…… well it still remains the case that you lack eligibility to get past the gates, if you refuse to do those simple things that would prove your eligibility.

    So you show up at the gates. You refuse point blank to tell them who you are. You won’t show them your Visa. You refuse to wear your pants or underwear. And you’ve stuffed your shirt with all this gear and are telling everyone its hardcore drugs…… Well it doesn’t matter that your Visa would check out, you could CONCEIVABLY put your underpants and your pants back on……. you could CONCEIVABLY demonstrate that you were only joking around about the drugs…. and so forth… Well the fact is you are still not eligible to get through the gates.

    So there is not use disputing this matter of Barry-too-white not being eligible. The man who would be President “Obama” is not eligible and there is not even the slightest uncertainty to this matter. And what we see with the people disputing this matter is a coalition of liars. This is yet one more thing that draws his supporters TO the fraudster. The fact that his supporters are dishonest too. They are dishonest. He is a conman. They are drawn to him.

    Now another thing. Since the preferred method of Obama’s mindless bunch of messiah-followers for dealing with the FACT-FUCKING-FACT of Obama’s ineligibility….. Since the preferred strategy of the enemy is to lie, play the race card, and to filibuster… Since we know precisely what the dishonest sector of the community will do and how they will behave……. Well because of this we can see in advance that there is some things to look out for.

    1. Very much like the WMD nonsense that the left pulled we will find that EVERYTHING WILL RETROSPECTIVELY BE HELD TO HAVE DEPENDED ON THE ONE THING THAT CONSTITUTIONALISTS AND PATRIOTIC AMERICANS SPECULATED WRONGLY ABOUT IN THIS MATTER. So if the certificate, fake or otherwise, claims that he was born in Honolulu…. well the shitrain of leftist jamming-propaganda will be that the whole case rested on the birth place alone. RETROSPECTIVELY it will be claimed that the birthplace was all there is to it. Like Clinton betraying the West by selling military technology to the Chinese and retrospectively it was held that the whole thing came down to blowjobs.

    Retrospectively it will be held that the only thing that mattered was the one thing that it is claimed that most people on the rational side of the debate got wrong.

    in reality the whole case rests on Obama being willing and ability to prove his eligibility. It rests on both his willingness and his ability to prove his eligibility and not any micronised part of the substantial case that he has to make.

    2. An attempt will be made to say that we are discriminating against the Usurper. That no other candidate has had to go to such lengths to prove his eligibility. Well yes we ought to expect a HUGE, AWESOME AND EXHAUSTIVE AMOUNT OF VERIFICATION since no other candidate has acted as dishonestly as this criminal ass-clown fantasist. No other candidate, to my knowledge, has ever forged two documents relating to himself and hidden all the rest of his documents. Hence its only the forgeries that we appear to know about. So of course if you’ve faked up one document we have to assume that any further documents tended are BETTER-FAKES. Thats obvious and only an idiot would think otherwise. Each document must be checked with immense forensic overkill.

    3. They will attempt to play the race card. But Pastor Manning has sized that nonsense right up. He’s gives a very good psychological explanation as to why its the Obama supporters that clearly are the racists. And his explanation really seems to accord with anecdotal evidence. The same people who wouldn’t give Alan Keyes the time of day, are precisely the same sort of people who are now devoted to that long-legged Mac Daddy who is skinflinting around pretending to be the President-Elect.

  164. graemebird Says:

    Has anyone figured out when and where Obama’s grandmother is going to be buried?

    Last anyone heard she was still lying on a block of ice. The excuse was that they do things funny in Hawaii. For some reason it was held that they keep people on big blocks of ice. So she’s never had a funeral and no-one knows when she will be buried or where she was buried if she was buried.

    But she had exquisite timing in her death. Just at the right time to keep her from answering questions about Barry’s birth. And with just enough time for Barry to get the TV tear-shot. The blatant fraud homo.

  165. JohnZ Says:

    Are you saying the Democrats murdered Obama’s grandmother turkey? This is a new low for you.

    Clearly you are a deranged conspiracy theorist.

  166. jc Says:

    No, he’s been saying that Obama killed his Gran.

  167. JohnZ Says:

    Run “Obama murdered grandmother” through google and you see where this nonsense comes from.

    Are you certain Neil Armstrong walked on the moon, turkey?

  168. Mark Hill Says:

    “That’s a piss poor argument for abolishing private property and selling “OUR SOVEREIGN SOIL” to a bunch of celestials.”

    No RPH you commie turd, you want to abolish private property and expropriate privately held British and US interests so a small Chinese equity injection doesn’t dilute Australian shareholdings – none of which the average Australian actually owns.

    Graeme,

    Prove to me that Bush wasn’t Mexican. He was bilingual and had very good relations with Fox after all. The Mexicans duped us. They lost 1911 and ditched the Krauts in WWI. They were much more clever to put up a Manchurian candidate from “America” (read a native born Mexican in American occupied Texas) to declare proxy wars and sell expensive oil to the gringos and fuck over the New England base of the GOP.

  169. graemebird Says:

    I’m saying that to this day no-one can find where she was buried or who cremated her. She’s probably watching her grandson on TV from a large apartment building.

    The only news of her being sick was that three weeks before her alleged death Barry’s half-sister said on her blog that she had been diagnosed with multiple mylopa. The average time it takes to die after diagnosis of mm is 3 years not 3 weeks.

    If she’s dead she was likely murdered. But there is no real chance she is dead.

  170. Lyam Says:

    Birdy, birdy,

    “…in all cases where there are eligibility criteria the person must be WILLING to prove his eligibility.”

    I don’t know which ass you pulled that one out of, but in any case not only was he WILLING to prove his eligibility but he actually DID prove it. (Rememeber, Hawaiian authorities + two independent federal courts.)

    As for your comments about BHO’s grandmother, they are simply despicable. It’s just raving hate mongering from a paranoid fool who can’t come over the fact a free people democratically elected someone he disapproves of.

    You can call anyone of us cunts, commies, traitors etc, we can defend ourselves. But let that woman rest in peace.

  171. Lyam Says:

    let == leave 🙂

  172. graemebird Says:

    No he didn’t prove his eligibility you are lying.

    You cannot even make a case. 20 dollars max would have him a birth certificate. He’s spent 800 000 instead so he doesn’t have to spend 20.

    So you are the lunatic here. You are the sheeple. There’s no doubt about that at all.

  173. Mark Hill Says:

    “So you are the lunatic here.”

    No, he spent $800k because of loonies like you.

    “You are the sheeple.”

    Fuck you, you self-aggrandising idiot.

    Quite frankly I am sick of your pro Mexican proxy wars and ramping up of Mexican oil.

  174. graemebird Says:

    Why not just spend 20USD and hand over the birth certificate Mark you hey slowpoke? Anything for the Marxist hey Mark?

    Here is the story about how Barry was getting illegal money from overseas. And this was by no means unwitting. They purposely broke the law here. This in itself ought to invalidate the elections were this a country that had its act down tight.

    http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=FWi08HB1UXA

  175. Mark Hill Says:

    “Why not just spend 20USD and hand over the birth certificate Mark you hey slowpoke? Anything for the Marxist hey Mark?”

    Because of right wing cranks like you. Two Federal courts have settled the matter.

    You still haven’t proven Bush wasn’t a Mexican and dupe of the Fox regime.

  176. graemebird Says:

    I’ve always said that Mark Hill was a real dim bulb.

    Mark see if you can redeem yourself by finding out what day of the week Barry’s Granny was buried.

    Well how about wiki-answers?

    http://wiki.answers.com/Q/When_is_the_funeral_for_Madelyn_Dunham

    “The Wall Street Journal quotes a campaign aide as saying the funeral will likely be a private memorial service, taking place later in the year. ”

    A magazine allegedly quoting a nobody who doesn’t know, giving an answer to a question that no-one asked. Well thats great going isn’t it?

  177. Lyam Says:

    Birdy,

    Let us make a deal, I will pay your travel expenses, bording expenses and even bribery expenses, if you go to Hawaii and bring back conclusive proof the certificate of live birth is a forgery. (You will most probably get a book contract if you pull that one off.)

    FYI, in the latest court case, the loons who launched the suit are going to have to prove to the judge it wasn’t a frivolous case. Otherwise they will have to cash in for BHO’s defense expenses.

    You really have to have a shitty beyond recognition case to risk a charge of frivolous lawsuit in the US.

  178. graemebird Says:

    The certificate of live birth isn’t even in Hawaii. That shows how you know nothing about the subject yet think you know everything. What a dim witted fool you are.

    You don’t need to go anywhere to prove its a forgery. Since he had it posted on his website and its been conclusively proved a forgery right there.

  179. Mark Hill Says:

    Ah yeah Graeme, a family wants to keep the memorial service for a relative of a new Head of State quiet, and it is a BIG GUV’MIN CONSPIRACY.

    Buzz Aldrin is watching you take a shit? No.

    The family want to keep it quiet and may have cremated her, which is no one else’s business but their own, you chump.

    They don’t have to justify anything to a NZ born Australian loony who thinks their cousin was born in Kenya when he was clearly born in Hawaii.

  180. Mark Hill Says:

    “The certificate of live birth isn’t even in Hawaii. That shows how you know nothing about the subject yet think you know everything. What a dim witted fool you are.”

    Well where is it you imbecile?

  181. graemebird Says:

    Who could possibly know that? He made the forgery and posted it on his website. Its a piece of paper Mark you dummy.

  182. graemebird Says:

    What is very scary is the phenomenon of successful people who cannot get even the easiest thing right. This fellow is not only a huckster. He’s been one of the most shallow swindlers ever. Its not even a polished act except when he’s walking backwards and forwards and there is a teleprompter.

    Truly the dumb have become upwardly mobile.

  183. Lyam Says:

    Birdy, birdy,

    “Mark see if you can redeem yourself by finding out what day of the week Barry’s Granny was buried.”

    She wasn’t buried she was cremated and her ashes where dispersed on the ocean front:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=6520841

    and

    “You don’t need to go anywhere to prove its a forgery. Since he had it posted on his website and its been conclusively proved a forgery right there.”

    Nobody proved such a thing (blabering in a Youtube video isn’t a proof).

  184. graemebird Says:

    Finally. Good stuff. No burying place then. Well who would have thought. Nothing suspicious about your link Lyam? Nothing suspect about it at all?

    What day did this all happen? When was the funeral?

  185. Mark Hill Says:

    “He made the forgery and posted it on his website.”

    How. The. Fuck. Do. You. Know. That?!

    “Truly the dumb have become upwardly mobile.”

    Farting through silk Graeme?

  186. graemebird Says:

    So thats 51 days between her alleged death and this no-witnesses mock-up of a funeral.

    51 days.

  187. Lyam Says:

    “Nothing suspicious about your link Lyam? Nothing suspect about it at all?”

    Ok biurdy. You now are going to prove to us that ABC News is less credible than a bunch of loons feeding on YouTube videos and goofy blogs such as the WorldNetDaily.

  188. Mark Hill Says:

    “What day did this all happen? When was the funeral?”

    WTF? Is this some kind of bizzare anti Vatican II “old Catholic” movement that opposes cremation?

  189. Lyam Says:

    “So thats 51 days between her alleged death and this no-witnesses mock-up of a funeral.

    51 days.”

    So what there were 46 days between my mother’s death and her funeral. I wasn’t trying to hide anything but simply give the time for her Austrian and Spanish relatives to get organized and be able to attend.

  190. Mark Hill Says:

    …and Obama has Kenyan, Indonesian and Hawaiian relatives.

    Case closed.

    Obama is legitimate and there is no substance to this lunacy.

  191. graemebird Says:

    No relatives were there Mark. Its just Barry and the kids is it not.

    Its precisely what you would expect from the con-artist.

  192. graemebird Says:

    How do I know Mark? Because he posted it on his website. Scroll up for the details of the fraud. Well he didn’t post it its true. Some minion or other must have.

  193. graemebird Says:

    51 days. Really outrageous. And obvious gyp. And not even the excuses that Lyam tried to conjure. 51 days.

  194. Lyam Says:

    Birdy,

    Let’s get back to your conspiracy involving at least some Hawaiian officials and two federal judges.

    My offer to you to pay for your investigating expenses to bring out “the Truth According To GMB” still holds. (I will pay myself back with the book rights :-))

  195. graemebird Says:

    There’s not a single detail in this story that doesn’t spell G.Y.P

    You have your story. But Barry does not. You are an idiot grafting your story onto his.

  196. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Graeme

    Pastor Manning is good isn’t he?

    Did you see this one?

    http://www.videosift.com/video/Obama-is-a-long-legged-mac-daddy-54-Double-Ds

  197. graemebird Says:

    Pastor Manning is brilliant. An expert Jesus interpreter and my own personal righteousness coach.

  198. Mark Hill Says:

    Jesus Christ, what a lunatic and crank GMB is.

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=6520841

    Obama Attends Memorial for His Grandmother, ‘Toot’

    Obama attends memorial for his beloved grandmother ‘Toot,’ who died just before his election

    President-elect Barack Obama gathered with family and friends on Tuesday for a private memorial service for the beloved grandmother who helped raise him.

    Madelyn Payne Dunham, known to her friends as “Toot”, died Nov. 2, two days before Obama won election to become the nation’s first African-American president. She was 86.

    Obama did not speak to reporters at the small home that had been converted into the First Unitarian Church in the neighborhood of Nuuanu. Aides said Obama’s half-sister, Maya Soetoro-Ng, and her husband, Konrad Ng, also were present.

    Following the ceremony, Obama drove to cliffs east of Hononulu. He and about 20 members of his family climbed over a stone wall and down onto rocky ledges to scatter Dunham’s ashes at Lanai Lookout.

    Obama earlier this year left flowers at the same cliffs, in memory of his mother.”

    Some conspiracy Graeme. Imbecile. You drug fucked imbecile.

  199. Lyam Says:

    RPH

    “Pastor Manning is good isn’t he?”

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

    Again a net video of a nutcase rambling. That’s all GMB and you have as sources.

    No wonder that with such a treatment the organ once called a brain you had inside your skull melted into some gooey jello.

  200. Mark Hill Says:

    Game over man.

    You accuse only his nuclear family attending but there was 20 or so of the extended family from around the world.

    Now crawl back into your cesspool you call a hovel and shut your yap forever.

  201. Mark Hill Says:

    “Though the clause is really quite clear it had of course not anticipated the unconstitutional Louisiana purchase. ”

    Please explain.

  202. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    There was no constitutional authority for the purchase.

    And it was funded through ponzi money.

    It was really the start of the whole unconstitutional ponzi economy with ponzi diplomacy.

    You can trace a straight line from Louisiana to Hawaii.

  203. Mark Hill Says:

    Given no one has ever banned fractional reserve (except maybe North Korea), *everything* has been funded by ponzi-money (including Graeme buying his house).

    Under the common law, the King could purchase and annex land. The President was and still is subject to common law. It is perfectly legal for heads of State to acquire territory by treaty or purchase if ratified under their own treaty procedures.

    You can draw a straight line from Potts Point to Tehran. Your point being?

  204. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Graeme, I like it when Pastor Manning says “I am a diplomat, but I am not a compromiser!!”

    That sort of reminds me of you.

    A diplomat but not a compromiser.

  205. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “You can draw a straight line from Potts Point to Tehran. ”

    That’s the first sensible thing you have said in a long time, MH.

    I think it would be very profitable to examine some of the links between Potts Point and Tehran.

    The Cosmopolitan meets the Mullah.

    Quite a scary thought. Definitely worth exploring.

  206. Mark Hill Says:

    “A diplomat but not a compromiser.”

    What about his Ponzi money loan that he profiteering off now due to high inflation, an arbitrary transfer of wealth from creditors to debtors?

  207. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “*everything* has been funded by ponzi-money”

    And you wonder why the global financial system is collapsing.

    What a fucking imbecile.

    Grade A Certified moron, this Hill.

  208. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    I also like it when Pastor Manning says folks don’t have enough sense to pour piss out of a boot.

    That’s Hill for you. Wouldn’t know to pour piss out of a boot.

  209. Mark Hill Says:

    Ron,

    We’ve had 230+ years of economic growth since the beginning of the industrial revolution.

    I may be a moron but I am clever enough not to mess with the finance sector which has been instrumental in funding innovation and risk taking.

    The industrial revolution basically went to where the banking sectors were free or lightly regulated.

  210. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “but I am clever enough not to mess with the finance sector which has been instrumental in funding innovation and risk taking”

    But you are not clever enough to pour piss out of a boot.

  211. Mark Hill Says:

    Unlike Graeme, I actually care for the people who would suffer under his monstrous economic policies like shutting down banks and gaoling bankers.

    I care too about miners he would put out of work to pander to his non-native born xenophobia of foreign capital.

  212. graemebird Says:

    So far nothing for the contrary case?

    If it was up to me to make a dishonest contrary case, I could surely do a better job then you!!!! I’d at least be able to invent some fanciful rationale for a rope-a-dope.

  213. graemebird Says:

    Waiting for a contrary case is a waste of time with you dummies. Look how your stupidity and irrationalism has been advertised here.

    This all started really with irrationalism about monetary economics and the climate. Now its a full-blown thing.

    Why not just learn logic? Why not just go with reason and evidence?

  214. Fom Toss Says:

    Bird brain drooled:

    “Waiting for a contrary case is a waste of time with you dummies. Look how your stupidity and irrationalism has been advertised here.”

    Graeme you’re a total waste of time yourself. But when you write about stupidity and irrationalism you wrote the book on these subjects.

    “Why not just learn logic? Why not just go with reason and evidence?”

    Did you ever ask yourself that question, Bird brain?

  215. Electric Says:

    Birdy embarrassing himself yet again.

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/john-c-baez-anti-science-idiot-right-here-in-sydney/#comment-29000

    THE Crackpot Index.

    The insults you see here directed at PZ Myers, only came about because it was one of the Myers sycophants who posted the crackpot index. I didn’t know who Baez was. They all have the same attitude these stupid people. But Baez was stupid enough to put it on display. I’ve sent Baez an insulting email. Which is basically what follows, cut and pasted:

    FURTHER DELINIATION OF THE PZ MYERS APPROACH TO SCIENCE. BRANDING LOGICAL PEOPLE AS CRANKS BY WAY OF A POINT SYSTEM. YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS IDIOCY UP. BUT THIS IS HOW THESE UNSCIENTISTS THINK.

    A simple method for rating potentially revolutionary contributions to physics:

    A -5 point starting credit.

    1 point for every statement that is widely agreed on to be false.

    AGREED BY WHOM?

    (((2 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous.

    HOW COULD MAINSTREAM PHYSICS JUDGE SUCH A THING. HAVING REJECTED LOGIC?

    3 points for every statement that is logically inconsistent.

    YOU MUST MEAN THE DOCTRINE OF TIME DILATION RIGHT?

    5 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction.)))

    SO IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THE CORRECTION WASN’T CORRECT RIGHT?

    BLUFF AND PROJECTION

    (((5 points for using a thought experiment that contradicts the results of a widely accepted real experiment.)))

    WIDELY ACCEPTED BY WHOM

    5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards).

    IRRELEVANT.

    5 points for each mention of “Einstien”, “Hawkins” or “Feynmann”.

    IDIOCY. THE FUCKING MORON PZ MYERS QUOTED FEYNMANN WHEN HE WAS GIVING A SPEECH IN MY COUNTRY.

    10 points for each claim that quantum mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).

    THE ABOVE STATEMENT PROOF THAT THE QUANTUM HANGERS ON ARE AMONGST THE STUPIDEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. YOU CANNOT MAKE THE ABOVE STUPIDITY UP. ANY QUESTIONING OF THE STUPID IDEAS OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR IS IMMEDIATELY HELD TO BE THE SUBJECT OF SCORN. QUANTUM PHYSICS IS IDIOCY, SINCE IT PROPOSES NO STRUCTURE FOR THE LITTLE WORLD. NO SHAPE. EVERYTHING MATHEMATICAL THE DUMB BASTARDS DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN WHEN THEY SAY THINGS. THEY GET SHIRTY IF YOU TALK ABOUT ORBITS. BUT THEN AFTER CHANGING THE WORD TO ORBITALS, THE MORONS CANNOT TELL YOU WHY OR DEFINE AN ORBITAL. QUANTUM MECHANICS ADVOCATES MUST BE THE MOST STUPID PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

    10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity.

    YOU CANNOT DEFEND YOURSELF AGAINST LYING CHARGES WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IDIOTS LIKE PZ MYERS.

    10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it. (10 more for emphasizing that you worked on your own.)

    ANYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE USED TO CONDEMN YOU UNDER THE PZ MYERS APPROACH.

    10 points for mailing your theory to someone you don’t know personally and asking them not to tell anyone else about it, for fear that your ideas will be stolen.

    A TRUE SCIENTIST WOULD ONLY BE TOO HAPPY TO LISTEN TO ANY NEW IDEAS.

    10 points for offering prize money to anyone who proves and/or finds any flaws in your theory.

    IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU CANNOT SHAME OR BRIBE THINKING OUT OF SOMEONE AS STUPID AS PZ MYERS.

    10 points for each new term you invent and use without properly defining it.

    TIME FOR THE BULLY BOYS TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

    10 points for each statement along the lines of “I’m not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations”.

    YOU DON’T EVEN NEED THAT. A GOOD THEORY DESCRIBES THINGS. AND MATHEMATICAL FORMULAS ARE NO SUBSTITUTE FOR THEORY. QUALITATIVE REASONING IS INDEED MORE IMPORTANT THAN MATHS. BUT BOTH ARE NEEDED. NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ONE PERSON. MATHS IS A TOOL. LIKE A HAMMER OR A CHAINSAW.

    10 points for arguing that a current well-established theory is “only a theory”, as if this were somehow a point against it.

    NO ARGUMENT NO MATTER HOW RATIONAL WILL BE ACCEPTABLE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT DUMB THEORIES ARE IN FACT ONLY THEORIES. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIAL RELATIVITY AND THE BIG BANG THESE NEVER GOT PAST THEORY STAGE. SINCE THEY LACKED EVIDENCE IN THEIR FAVOUR. AND THEY WERE SUBSEQUENTLY PROVED WRONG.

    10 points for arguing that while a current well-established theory predicts phenomena correctly, it doesn’t explain “why” they occur, or fails to provide a “mechanism”.

    ANOTHER GOOD ARGUMENT NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE OF IT BEING A GOOD ARGUMENT. SPECIAL RELATIVITY HAD SOME PREDICTIVE VALUE EARLY ON. NOT A GREAT DEAL BY THE WAY. WE ALREADY KNEW MERCURY’S ORBIT SO THAT WASN’T A PREDICTION OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY. THE BIG BANG THEORY DIDN’T PREDICT ANYTHING SUCESSFULLY. WHERE THE DECEPTION IS HERE IS THAT WHEN AN IDIOT LIKE PZ MYERS SAYS THAT WORD “PREDICT” HE DOESN’T MEAN IT. HE MEANS THAT THE THEORY COULD ACCOMMODATE THE DATA AFTER THE FACT.

    10 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Einstein, or claim that special or general relativity are fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).

    MAINSTREAM PHYSICS IS ALL ABOUT THE CULT OF PERSONALITY.

    10 points for claiming that your work is on the cutting edge of a “paradigm shift”.

    NO MATTER HOW HONEST YOU ARE IT WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU.

    20 points for emailing me and complaining about the crackpot index. (E.g., saying that it “suppresses original thinkers” or saying that I misspelled “Einstein” in item 8.)

    THATS PRECISELY WHAT THE STUPID CUNT IS DOING. ACTUALLY I’M GOING TO FIND OUT WHO WROTE THIS IDIOCY AND EMAIL HIM. JUST TO POINT OUT WHAT A LAUGHABLE STUPID CUNT HE IS. I MIGHT GO AND POKE FUN AT HIM IN LECTURES.

    20 points for suggesting that you deserve a Nobel prize.

    I WOULDN’T WISH SUCH IGNOMY ON A WORST ENEMY.

    20 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Newton or claim that classical mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).

    THIS FELLOW IS SO FUCKING DUMB, HE DOESN’T REALISE HE IS TOTALLY AGAINST CLASSICAL MECHANICS.

    20 points for every use of science fiction works or myths as if they were fact.

    YOU MEAN LIKE THE MYTH OF THE SINGULARITY? THE MYTH OF AN ULTIMATE SPEED LIMIT?THE MYTH OF THE BIG BANG? THE PHOTON-MYTH? THE MYTHICAL SPACE-TIME?

    DUMB FUCKING MORONIC PROJECTION AGAIN.

    20 points for defending yourself by bringing up (real or imagined) ridicule accorded to your past theories.

    I’D JUST BASH THIS CUNT ON SIGHT IF HE TRIED TO RIDICULE ME. SEE WHO WOULD BE LAUGHING THEN.

    20 points for naming something after yourself. (E.g., talking about the “The Evans Field Equation” when your name happens to be Evans.)

    COMPLETELY FUCKING NORMAL BEHAVIOUR. ANY THEORY I HAVE I’M CALLING IT AFTER ME. THIS IS CLEARLY SAID BY SOMEONE TOO USELESS TO SUSS OUT A NEW IDEA AND JEALOUS OF HIS SUPERIORS.

    20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it.

    IDIOTS LEFTIST PROJECTION. SO TELL US ABOUT QUANTUM MECHANICS SHIT-FOR-BRAINS.

    20 points for each use of the phrase “hidebound reactionary”.

    A FINE PHRASE. WHAT A STUPID CUNT HEY?

    20 points for each use of the phrase “self-appointed defender of the orthodoxy”.

    ANOTHER EXCELLENT PHRASE. THIS FELLOW COULD REALLY NOT BE MORE OF A DUMB CUNT IF WE PAID HIM TO BE.

    30 points for suggesting that a famous figure secretly disbelieved in a theory which he or she publicly supported. (E.g., that Feynman was a closet opponent of special relativity, as deduced by reading between the lines in his freshman physics textbooks.)

    IF FEYNMAN WASN’T A CLOSET OPPONENT OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY THEN HE WAS A STUPID CUNT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I’LL TRUST YOUR JUDGEMENT EITHER WAY.

    30 points for suggesting that Einstein, in his later years, was groping his way towards the ideas you now advocate.

    THATS A POSSIBILITY

    30 points for claiming that your theories were developed by an extraterrestrial civilization (without good evidence).

    WELL THIS ONE COMES FROM BILL GAEDE. BUT I’M SURE THERE WERE PRECEDENTS. OF COURSE AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILISATION WOULD HAVE IT RIGHT. THEY ARE NOT TRAVELING THAT MANY LIGHT-YEARS ON THE ADVICE OF OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS.

    40 points for comparing those who argue against your ideas to Nazis, stormtroopers, or brownshirts.

    THE COMPARISON COULD NOT BE MORE APPROPRIATE. THERE IS ALWAYS A MINDLESS TOTALITARIAN EDGE TO THE SPECIALISTS WHO HOLD TO THESE WRONG THEORIES. “YOU WILL BELIEVE 2+2=5″, IS WHAT THEY APPEAR TO BE SAYING.

    40 points for claiming that the “scientific establishment” is engaged in a “conspiracy” to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.

    WELL NOT MY WORK NO. THEY ARE JUST TOTALLY AGAINST ANY GOOD WORK.

    40 points for comparing yourself to Galileo, suggesting that a modern-day Inquisition is hard at work on your case, and so on.

    WELL IF IT WERE TRUE IT WOULD NOT BE WRONG TO SUGGEST IT.

    40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant.)

    THEY ARE A SHAM NOW. THEY ARE FUCKING MORONS. LOOK AT THE FUCKING MORON WHO PRODUCED THIS TESTIMONY TO PROUD, BELLIGERENT, AND TERMINAL STUPIDITY.

    50 points for claiming you have a revolutionary theory but giving no concrete testable predictions.

    THATS JUST SILLY. WE ALREADY KNOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT SO ITS NOT UNKNOWN FOR US TO PREDICT. SO YOU PROVE THAT LIGHT IS NOT MADE OF PHOTONS. HOW WILL THAT CHANGE LIGHTS BEHAVIOUR. NAME A LOT OF CHEAP PREDICTIONS WE COULD MAKE? NONE JUMP TO MIND. BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE FOR ALL THE CHEAP STUFF.

    ONCE AGAIN THE STUPID CUNT HAS RUN AGROUND BECAUSE HE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT “PREDICT” MEANS.

    WHAT A STUPID CUNT THIS FELLOW IS.

  216. graemebird Says:

    Still no birth certificate. So we have to simply assume that he is a usurper. So there you go. You dummies wrong, and we have to assume for the moment that I’m right.

  217. Ƀîᴙď ₣Įаρ§ Says:

    STFU you mentally challenged loser.

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