Question filibustered

Bird has had well over a dozen chances to explain who is part of the Obama “conspiracy”, yet we are still none the wiser.

Theories explaining this filibuster would be appreciated.

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273 Responses to “Question filibustered”

  1. JohnZ Says:

    I’m guessing he doesn’t have the evidence.

  2. 1554 Says:

    The theory is simple.

    Bird gets caught up in all these truther-like sites then thinks they’re all credible. Like all truther he gets very angry when plausible facts are presented and he starts filibustering.

  3. from Salon Says:

    An interesting piece from Salon last December about why this conspiracy theory will never die. It includes some insight into the “psychology” of the typical truther.

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/

  4. 1554 Says:

    From Salon………

    This sure sounds lik our feathered friend:

    Any inconvenient facts are irrelevant. People who believe in a conspiracy theory “develop a selective perception, their mind refuses to accept contrary evidence,” Chip Berlet, a senior analyst with Political Research Associates who studies such theories, says. “As soon as you criticize a conspiracy theory, you become part of the conspiracy.”

  5. graemebird Says:

    I’ve never said anything about a conspiracy. Leftist idiocy explains every last bit of it. Its your own idiotic behaviour writ large.

    But further to that there is no “you are claiming a conspiracy” argument override in logic. So I’m not claiming a conspiracy. And if I was that would not prove I was wrong.

  6. graemebird Says:

    Other than lying and claiming that I’m claiming a conspiracy…. which I’m not, what argument have you got?

    See you argument appears to be this cannot be happening because it cannot be happening so its not happening.

    But thats no argument at all. If we look at the facts the fact is that:

    1. Obama is a usurper.

    2. He’s desperately attempting to destroy the US economy.

    3. If he’s not stopped quickly he will succeed.

    Thats where all the evidence points and no evidence points otherwise.

    And in the face of all this evidence you are saying that this isn’t true since it cannot be true. But it is true, and it can be true, and what makes it possible is your own idiocy and that of the leftists you see all around you.

    Come up with an actual argument.

  7. graemebird Says:

    The Salon article is a worthless article except to the extent that it shows the idiocy that makes this fraud possible. You don’t need a conspiracy when you have leftist pack-animal idiocy. The left don’t just stooge themselves on this matter. But they work as mindless pack-animals on every matter. So for example we have Z stooging himself in this exact same way on the global warming fraud. On nuclear power. You name it and Z is going with the pack-animal reasoning. Which is no reasoning at all but the mere acceptance of tribal stipulations.

    Here is how the salon article starts off. Every reader of salon articles are idiots and they only really read salon to find out what arguments to memorise. If you went back over what Z has said you will find its just idiocy memorised from salon and elsewhere:

    You might think these rumors would have died off after Obama produced proof in June that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii

    NO SUCH PROOF WAS PRODUCED. THE AUTHOR IS LYING.

    to an American citizen, his mother, Ann, or after Hawaii state officials confirmed in October that he was born there.

    THEY CONFIRMED NO SUCH THING. THE AUTHOR IS LYING.

    You might think the rumors

    THEY AREN’T RUMOURS. THEY ARE MERELY FACTUAL REVELATIONS OF THIS FELLOW BEING A USURPER.

    would have died off after he was elected by a comfortable margin.

    THERE WAS NOTHING COMFORTABLE ABOUT HIS MARGINS GIVEN THE RAMPANT ELECTORAL FRAUD INVOLVED.

    Instead, they’ve intensified. There have been paid advertisements in the Chicago Tribune questioning the president-elect’s birth certificate and eligibility, and one group is raising money to run a similar ad on television. The right-wing Web site WorldNetDaily has been reporting on the issue almost nonstop. Numerous plaintiffs have filed lawsuits in various states. And Friday, the Supreme Court’s nine justices will decide whether they want to hear one of those suits, which also contends that John McCain, born in the former Panama Canal Zone, does not meet the Constitution’s requirements to hold the presidency.

    THE REASON THIS IS HAPPENING IS BECAUSE HE IS A USURPER.

    SO ITS REALLY THE PSYCHOLOGY OF THE IDIOT AUTHOR THAT WE MUST INVESTIGATE.

    And what it comes down to is the fact that leftists are mindless pack-animals.

  8. graemebird Says:

    “As soon as you criticize a conspiracy theory, you become part of the conspiracy.”

    This isn’t a conspiracy theory. This is the reality of you guys being leftist pack-animals. So this dummy has got it wrong even there. Obama was born in the coast providence hospital in Mombassa. No records can be found of him ever being in any Hawaiian hospital.

  9. graemebird Says:

    I never once filibustered the question. I just explained the reality of leftist compulsive lying and pack-animal behaviour. This thread was therefor a lie. Since it claims that I filibustered the question when I did not.

    You yourselves can answer, much better than me, why it is you guys lie all the time. This is the whole explanation for the Soetoro fraud right there. And within your grasp. All you have to do is verbalize why it is you lie all the time and thats your answer to how this fraud has bone ahead.

  10. DH Says:

    “I never once filibustered the question.” But Graeme you’re nothing but filibuster, lies, piss and wind. You’ve gone to a few nutcase websites and adopted them as holy writ, all beacuse you seem to have a problem with black folks or a Democrat in the White House.

    But one simple question: Who is concealing the ‘fact’ that he murdered his grandmother (who is also coincidentally still alive)? Surely the Hawaiian police department must be involved? Why haven’t they launched an investigation into:

    a) Said muder, or
    b) The fraudulent ‘death’?

    And as for Obama destroying the economy, I thought GW Bush made a pretty good fist of doing that all by himself.

    You really are an ignoramus of the first order. Honestly, you shouldn’t be let anywhere near a keyboard. Every time you type a kitten dies.

  11. DH Says:

    …and I’d make that 20 failures to answer the question.

  12. GMB Says:

    Well thats because you are a liar fatty. This whole conspiracy nonsense implies that people would do the right thing if they had the chance to. But leftists never do the right thing if they can get out of it.

    Its leftist pack-animal behaviour. Where does the conspiracy come into it? And were it a conspiracy how would that make Barry qualify?

  13. dh Says:

    Make that failure 21. Graeme, you really are a moron of the first-order. Seriously, you need to get over yourself.

  14. 1554 Says:

    Bird:

    THIS LYING IS SO UNLIKE YOU. TELL US WHAT HAPPENED TO HIS GRAN, YOU FUCKING MORON.

  15. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey you clearly are a conspiracy theorist. Now it’s always possible this conspiracy is true (haha), but there’s no point denying the bleeding obvious.

    Some self awareness is definitely required here.

  16. graemebird Says:

    No no you are lying. You are putting words in my mouth. You are lying and claiming that I said there was some large conspiracy.

    I did not. You lied. I said no such thing. There is no implication of a large conspiracy if you leftists WANT to be stooged. If you don’t care about legality.

    And you do want to be stooged and you don’t care about legality.

  17. graemebird Says:

    So are we all clear now that this thread is a lie on the part of JohnZ.

    You don’t care one way or another where Obama was born, whether he’s eligible or a usurper or not. So how is it a conspiracy? A conspiracy is where someone would give a shit if they caught someone doing the wrong thing. Its not where the mass population of pack-animal leftists are proud at their fellow leftist for getting away with it and want to give the marxist all the cover they can.

  18. graemebird Says:

    So can anyone come up with any evidence whatsoever that this fellow isn’t a usurper. In the same way that lets say Putin would not be eligible to be President of the United States.

    There is of course the other thing that having drunk the Kook Aid you are also approving of a fellow that is going hell for leather to destroy the American economy, the American dollar, and therefore the Republic itself. And doing so in as blatant a way as anyone possibly could.

    Where are his spending cuts? We are looking at 2 trillion dollar deficits. No spending cuts to be seen.

  19. graemebird Says:

    So how did you manage to be so retarded as to think that the Salon article was relevant? Salon always does articles of this sort. They did an article on people who are claiming that special relativity was idiotic. They didn’t adress the subject but merely but these people down. Its Cambria on climate science all over again. In the Einstein article the author actually asked Brad Delongs advice on the matter. Brads hopeless at his own subject. He’s a sort of American Quiggin. Salon appears to have an editorial policy of not actually addressing the question in question. And you idiots lap it all up. You are degenerates I tell you. Totally reason-free retards.

  20. graemebird Says:

    Obama was born in the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya. And his African Grandmother was there at his birth. Were this not the case someone else would have come forward and said that they were present at his birth and what Hospital he was born in. Most people have a pretty good idea of where and when they were born. But no records exist ever of Obama visiting an hospital in Hawaii.

  21. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey – you’ve had 24 chances now to explain just who is in on the conspiracy and who is not. Everything you’ve said suggests you believe that there are hundreds of people in on this at every level of the American government. Don’t blame us when your own words damn you.

    How about you clear up who is involved (at a minimum). If it turns out you are not a conspiracist then I for one will publish a retraction.

  22. Jason Soon Says:

    Answer Z’s question.

  23. Malcolm X Says:

    Mr Bird,

    How can you claim this was not a conspiracy, when you know perfectly well that I was in on it, as were you.

  24. John Humphreys Says:

    Yeah Graeme… answer the question.

  25. graemebird Says:

    Stop the leftist filibuster here. The fact is that all of you are happy with a marxist President. Thats the zeitgeist of the moment for you leftist pack-animals, along with global warming, and you would not go against these socially determined positions. So at no point did you need anything but a small conspiracy to be taken in like the fools you are.

    You were taken in by the warming fraud and to this day you still advocate a carbon tax. It was an evidence-free-undertaking to get you zombies all marching the same way on that matter. Same with Barry Soetoro’s eligibility. No sizeable conspiracy needed. I’ve answered this question maybe 50 times. But the zombies keep asking because they cannot appreciate the reality of the answer.

  26. graemebird Says:

    Time for you guys to stop the filibuster and lets get back to your occult knowledge and gift of second sight. Where is this idea that he was born in Hawaii coming from?

  27. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    “Where is this idea that he was born in Hawaii coming from?”

    It’s not an idea it’s a FACT confirmed by the certificate of live birth delivered by the State of Hawaii.

  28. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    “The fact is that all of you are happy with a Marxist President.”

    1/ Not once have the politics of President Obama been discussed on this forum, hence you don’t know what your counterparts think of them.

    2/ You clearly need to read the writings of Karl Marx again, if you ever have. President Obama is certainly a Liberal (in the American sense of the word) but not a Marxist.

  29. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    “So at no point did you need anything but a small conspiracy to be taken in like the fools you are.”

    Even a small conspiracy is a conspiracy. We would like to know who is amongst this small conspiracy.

  30. 1554 Says:

    Voice of reason:
    Not once have the politics of President Obama been discussed on this forum, hence you don’t know what your counterparts think of them.

    I have actually. I raised it one time where I said that i don’t support any of Obama’s recent policies. However I will defend obama against any of Bird’s stupid droppings …….that somehow this idiot has found his isn’t legitimate to be prez.

    It’s the insanity of this crap that we’re all against. In fact you’d find that most of the people who have known Bird longest would be against Obama’s economic policies while also telling Bird, he’s an truther idiot.

  31. 1554 Says:

    You may have missed it as it only one time.

  32. voice-of-reason Says:

    1554

    “You may have missed it as it only one time.”

    So much for me. I will therefore rephrase 🙂

    Mr Bird,

    “The fact is that all of you are happy with a Marxist President.”

    1/ Only once have the politics of President Obama been discussed on this forum. 1554 declared himself opposed to them the others stayed silent although most of them have expressed elsewhere views which are clearly not from “the left”.

    2/ You clearly need to read the writings of Karl Marx again, if you ever have. President Obama is certainly a Liberal (in the American sense of the word) but not a Marxist.

  33. JohnZ Says:

    Don’t try the leftist reversal, turkey, just answer the freaking question.

    Are parts of the Hawaiian police in on the conspiracy? YES OR NO?

  34. 1554 Says:

    Yes Bird, the leftist reversal trick doesn’t work on this fucking site. answer Z’s question you truther.

  35. graemebird Says:

    “It’s not an idea it’s a FACT confirmed by the certificate of live birth delivered by the State of Hawaii.”

    This didn’t happen you are lying. The State of Hawaii never “delivered” any such certificate and that type of certificate is in no way a confirmation as to the whereabouts of his birth.

    A lie on two counts Cambria. Try again.

  36. graemebird Says:

    Ok try again. This time don’t lie.

    Now what evidence do you stooges, dupes and weakminded sissy-boys have that he was born in Hawaii. When in reality he was born in the Coast Providence Hospital In Mombassa, Kenya.

  37. graemebird Says:

    You see the whole things based on lies. I’ve never filibustered. I assume a small conspiracy buttressed by mindless leftists like the stooges on this site, myself excluded. There is no need to assume a large conspiracy when you have mindless post-modernist corporate enuchs and leftist stooges to do all the work for you. I don’t know whose in or out of the supposed small conspiracy, because I’m not a leftist and I lack the gift of second sight. And furthermore that may well be a definitional issue. There is something of the looking the other way in all leftist pack-animals. They look the other way while millions get their brains bashed in, in their favoured socialist countries. There is an element of the holocaust-denier in all leftists.

    But the fact is this fellow is not eligible. Being as he was born in the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa, Kenya.

  38. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Barack Hussein Obama Jr is born on August 4th 1961 in Honolulu, island of Oahu, state of Hawaii, as certified by the Hawaiian authorities.

    This FACT has been further confirmed by two separate federal courts following lawsuits where the suing parties failed to provide any evidence to sustain their case.

    I am not saying you are a liar, but I affirm you are not telling the truth.

    P.S: my name isn’t Cambria, I am the voice-of-reason trying to access your brain.

  39. graemebird Says:

    “Barack Hussein Obama Jr is born on August 4th 1961 in Honolulu, island of Oahu, state of Hawaii, as certified by the Hawaiian authorities.”

    They have certified no such thing you are lying.

    Lies don’t count and so thats the end of that non-evidence evidence.

  40. graemebird Says:

    Anything other than just straight lying?

    We had the straight lying before.

    Anything OTHER than that?

  41. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    “I assume a small conspiracy buttressed by mindless leftists like the stooges on this site, myself excluded.”

    You do therefore claim there is a conspiracy.

    Who are the conspirators?

  42. graemebird Says:

    Well there is bunch of you?

    So if straight lying is all you’ve got what is that telling you?

  43. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    “They have certified no such thing you are lying.”

    They have certified such a thing by providing a certificate of live birth.

  44. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    WHO ARE THE CONSPIRATORS?

  45. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Your silence speaks volumes. Are you suggesting that Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of Hawaii’s Department of Health who released the following statement:

    http://healthuser.hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

    is part of the conspirators?

  46. graemebird Says:

    I lack the gift of second sight. I’m not a leftist. So I don’t assume any conspirators but only leftist stupidity.

  47. graemebird Says:

    Right. So by the testimony of your own link statement we find out that I was right and that you were lying all along.

    You might have thought that we wanted confirmation that you were lying all along.

    But what I wanted dopey was evidence.

    Lets have some evidence.

  48. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    In comment 1642

    https://graemebirdforum.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/question-filibustered/#comment-1642

    you claim there is a “small” conspiracy, now you claim there isn’t.

    You are flip-flopping in the face of facts as usual.

    WHO ARE THE CONSPIRATORS?

  49. graemebird Says:

    You link a statement. And you don’t even preface it by admitting that you had the entire story wrong the whole time. This is what leftists do of course. So we assume that you were not merely mistaken, but indeed you were lying the entire time.

  50. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    I provided a link to a statement that confirms that YOU are wrong.

    WHO ARE THE CONSPIRATORS?

  51. graemebird Says:

    I assume a small conspiracy buttressed by leftist lying as we see from yourself…. as well as leftist idiocy… as we see from most everyone else.

    You claim that I have changed my story. But my story is getting to tire people so consistently repetitive it is.

    So your claim is just another example of you lying again.

  52. graemebird Says:

    No you linked a statement that proved that you were lying.

    The statement that you linked proves that you were lying all along.

    And now you are lying again.

    The only think consistent is your consistent lying.

    I lack the gift of second sight and so have no means to tell conspirators from useful idiots, marxists from zombies.

    I’ve repeated as much many times. And I’m just going to have to keep explaining it over, two times for every lie of your own.

  53. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    I not only claim you change your story, I have the evidence to prove it.

    But at least now you admit you believe there is a conspiracy which was one of the subjects of this thread.

    The other is:

    WHO ARE THE CONSPIRATORS?

  54. graemebird Says:

    We already know you are a compulsive liar.

    But its not outside the bounds of all possibility that a compulsive liar may have some actual evidence?

    Lets have it then. If indeed you have any.

  55. JohnZ Says:

    And the filibuster continues.

    Have you no shame, turkey?

  56. graemebird Says:

    If you claim that I’ve changed my story well thats just you lying again. Which is the way you have chosen to behave. And you are lying all the time.

    Now have you any evidence. I mean it was OK to link someone who proved you were lying.

    Well thats fine.

    But now that you’ve done that lets have some actual evidence.

  57. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    I am the voice of reason in the back of your head telling you the truth.

    When you call me “a compulsive liar” you are only deluding yourself.

    WHO ARE THE CONSPIRATORS?

  58. graemebird Says:

    Just concentrate. Just focus. Just prioritise.

    The fellow you call Obama was born in the Coast Providence Hospital In Mombassa Kenya. Do you yourself have any evidence contrary to this notion?

  59. graemebird Says:

    This is exactly how all of you handle every last tribal position. From carbon tax, to global warming. to the multiplier, to the notion that you cannot cut spending in a recession……

    …. It doesn’t matter what it is…. Your tactic is always the flight from evidence. The filibuster which involves never coming good with the evidence. Humphreys primarily uses evasiveness. The rest of you primarily use lying.

    But the way this voice-of-reason fellow is handling it appears to be a public service signature of sorts.

  60. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    You want evidence,

    here is a copy of the certificate of live birth delivered by the State of Hawaii

    and here is the link to the previous statement of Dr. Chiyome Fukino, the director of Hawaii’s Department of Health
    http://healthuser.hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

  61. graemebird Says:

    So no evidence then.

    Apart from just lying. You don’t have anything?

    And there is a bunch of you. And thats the best you’ve got. So what is this telling you?

    You should be embarrassed but you are not. Since the tribal stooge is never embarrassed if the whole tribe is wrong altogether.

  62. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    WHO ARE THE CONSPIRATORS?

  63. graemebird Says:

    Think of the effort you guys are putting in here. Now people are putting in this effort all over the world. Where is the conspiracy? This is how it keeps in the air. Its all about the anti-due-diligence crowd shouting down the Cassandras if you will.

    Now I thought that a bucket of shit wasn’t worth a teaspoon of gold. So I thought that a truckload of shit wasn’t worth all that much either. So it struck me that the internet will lead to the truth winning out. Because a thousand of you dummies could not overturn the voice of reason and vigilance. And I thought the obvious thing was to check all this gear out and if it checks out get behind the new leader of the Western World without any second thoughts while one hopes he loses the next election.

    But what has happened has taken me by surprise. On the internet 20 000 motivated stooges can shout 1000 Cassandras down. There is just a ratio of sorts and they can do it. We are heading into new territory here. And we see that this is the most repulsive generation. The generation where the truth doesn’t matter any more. The new post-modern tribalism.

  64. graemebird Says:

    How would I know who the conspirators are? I just go with the evidence. I don’t see behind closed doors you dummy.

    If everyone acted like you there would not BE conspirators, because conspirators pre-suppose a group acting in secrecy amongst a larger group who act with goodwill and honesty. Without the goodwill and honesty of the larger group the very idea of a conspiracy seems moot.

    They say that the Roman citizens welcomed the barbarians into Rome. Had their taxeating filth got so smug that in the end the rest of us would do the same?

  65. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    The Cassandra complex is a common feature found in delusional people such as yourself.

    The main difference between such people and the true Cassandra, is the you only BELIEVE you are right whereas she WAS right.

  66. graemebird Says:

    I can see now that this voice-of-unreason is none other than John Z. Only JohnZ would go to all this effort and tell all these lies to try and get me to sign onto something I know nothing about.

    I assume a small conspiracy and general leftist idiocy. I know about the leftist idiocy. Its thick on this thread. I don’t know about the assumed small conspiracy. How would I know?

    But the fact is that the man you call Obama was born in the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya.

    Have you any evidence contrary to that?

  67. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    I am YOUR voice of reason no-one else’s. You should listen to me because I am your true self.

  68. Jason Soon Says:

    answer the fucking questions Turkey

  69. graemebird Says:

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are?

    I wonder if you’ve got that this time?

    Well I know what I’ll say it again.

  70. graemebird Says:

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

    Have you got that yet dummy?

  71. graemebird Says:

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are?

    Still a little bit too difficult for you hey dopey?

  72. graemebird Says:

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

    I’m wondering if you’ve got it now hey dummy? If you don’t have situation sorted now I don’t think you ever will.

  73. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to YOUR voice-of-reason.

    You can’t know who is in the conspiracy because there isn’t any.

  74. graemebird Says:

    Well I assume there is some sort of conspiracy. After all we have a Usurper in the white house. That much is clear. So I assume there were insiders in this matter. And that some of them may even be still alive.

    Now is everyone seeing how John Z lied right from the start of this thread. He claimed that I was filibustering. But we now see very clearly that he is filibusting on all matters big and small. And he is using another name so he can adopt rampant repetitive lying as part of the filibuster.

  75. graemebird Says:

    The “man” you call Obama was born in the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya. For this reason he is a Usurper can cannot ever be President Of The USA.

    Does anyone have any evidence AGAINST this proposition?

    Or are you just going to lie and filibuster all week.

    You guys must really be a bunch of no-friends Nigels.

  76. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to YOUR voice of reason.

    You know there isn’t any conspiracy but your pride prevents from admitting your error.

    That’s why you invented ME. Your voice-of-reason.

  77. graemebird Says:

    Most usurpations would assume a conspiracy of sorts. Just as most terrorist attacks would do. So a person of reason must assume at least a small conspiracy. But it DOES NOT THEN FOLLOW THAT HE WILL FIND HIMSELF IMMEDIATELY IN THE POSSESSION OF THE NAMES AND ADDRESSES OF ALL THE INSIDERS TO THE CONSPIRACY.

    Do you understand that you fucking moron John Z?

    Of do you assume, as all prior evidence attests, that your stupid word-games ACTUALLY ALTER REALITY?

  78. graemebird Says:

    Lets go over it again maybe five or six times because you are too much of a dumb shit to understand JohnZ.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  79. graemebird Says:

    Those of you who wonder how this could have happened, try and fathom the case of Z. Idiots like this the world over giving cover to evil marxists.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  80. graemebird Says:

    If Z was actually to get me to walk away from this, like a madman he would assume that HE WAS RIGHT AND HIS PERSISTENCE ALTERED THE REAL WORLD.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  81. graemebird Says:

    You see people like Z, and fatty Don Haraldo, are not skeptics….. rather they are epistemological occultists.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  82. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to YOUR voice of reason.

    There isn’t any conspiracy, it’s only your pride that prevents you from admitting it.

    Stop trying to fool yourself, changing names in the comments. Just follow your voice-of-reason, and publicly admit you were deceived into believing BHO was an usurper.

  83. graemebird Says:

    And they simply assume that by burying unpleasant truths in a barrage of words and annoyance they get to rewrite reality.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  84. graemebird Says:

    This amounts to the dumb-leftist version of wishing upon a star.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  85. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  86. graemebird Says:

    Z is definitely a marxist, or a utopian-eschatologist of some sort.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  87. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  88. graemebird Says:

    Its his persistence that really gives him away on matters big and small.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  89. graemebird Says:

    To try and explain it, imagine that you were a smart kid of 14 who discovered revelations and found the predictions therein compelling.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  90. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are …

    … because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  91. graemebird Says:

    Its the prophecy of it and the inside knowledge all wrapped into one and thats the special feeling that the marxist, or other variant of the eschatological-utopian has.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  92. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  93. graemebird Says:

    I myself have no inside knowledge so I just assume that assholes like Soetoro can be taken down if all good men step forward.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  94. graemebird Says:

    But what I’m finding is that this generation of kids are so repulsive that they may not be worth saving and it may then turn into a case of every man for himself.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  95. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  96. graemebird Says:

    In which case I’ll keep my options open for me and my girls, and family members, in strategic places like North Queensland, the South Island of New Zealand, and I’d think about trying to strengthen other bird/maquarie citadels.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  97. graemebird Says:

    But for now I’ll have to assume that I may be reaching some of the remnant and be helping them to learn how to act with decency and forbearance when indeed the shit does hit the fan.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  98. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  99. graemebird Says:

    That does not follow in logic. Some voice of reason you turned out to be you fucking moron.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  100. graemebird Says:

    Notice that this fuckwit Z assumes certain knowledge of all matters to follow with belief. Since he is delusional in this way he expects others to be delusional likewise.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  101. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason. The reason which tells you that BHO was born in Hawaii on August 4th 1961 and today legitimately occupies the White House.

    Logically you can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  102. graemebird Says:

    This comes with never having had to pay the bills. It must be understood that these parasites start off on the dot-mom, wind up on the public-tit, and never have to deal with the real reality because they never have to pay the bills.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  103. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason. Don’t project on others your inability to make a descent living.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  104. graemebird Says:

    People think that mass-sackings isn’t the answer but its a race against time to get these mass-sackings going. Because only by lowering the egos of these protected brats lower then whaleshit, and forcing them to face reality for the very first time, can we get these guys to come to their senses and stop destroying our world and murdering people in everything that they do.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  105. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason. Stop bringing up all sorts of off-topic nonsense and face the facts.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  106. graemebird Says:

    They are murdering people as we speak. With their support for carbon mitigation. Millions will be dying. 100’s of thousands each year and it will had up to millions. And still stupid brat-Sinclair, stupid brat-Humphreys…. and all those other stupid brats are in support of carbon mitigation. So the bio-fuel rort continues. And the people in Haiti used to be able to buy a cow-shit-pie for 3c. And they used to eat them too because of the carbon mitigation programs.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  107. graemebird Says:

    But now things have gotten so bad that the Haitians are no longer able to afford even the cow-shit pies. And its all down to carbon-mitigation, and the inhibiting of energy production.

    I assume a small conspiracy. I have no way of knowing who the conspirators are!

  108. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason. You are completely loosing your mind with unrelated crap. I will soon not be able to help you anymore.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  109. graemebird Says:

    No that doesn’t follow in logic. Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    Do you get it now?

  110. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    Understand that yet dummy?

  111. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    El Comprehendo girly-man Z?

  112. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason. You’ve lost all sense of reality and all you have shown is that youi are bat”*t crazy. Which evrybody already knew.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  113. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    The problem with the left is there flat learning curves. Only repetition can help in these cases.

  114. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    You want to be an idiot like Z. You take the tribal way of doing things. The voice of irrationalism. You will become a complete cunt like him. If that makes you happy.

  115. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason. I can’t help anymore.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  116. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    Become a complete cunt like Z and you will be retarded into childhood modes of thought. Or you can learn about REASON and become righteous like me and right pretty much all the time.

  117. voice-of-reason Says:

    Mr Bird,

    Listen to your voice-of-reason.

    I … can’t … help … anymore.

    You can’t know who the conspirators are because there isn’t any conspiracy.

  118. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    Imagine being a dumb cunt like Z and figuring that the interpolation of a small conspiracy as the best hypothesis gave one automatic knowledge as to who was involved.

  119. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    You know I don’t seem to remember the Z thesis when I used to read those Father Brown mysteries.

  120. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    I really don’t think this new theory of the idiot Z played a big part in the Sherlock Holmes stories either.

  121. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    The thing about being a leftist idiot like Z is you have a code of silence as to never admitting you are wrong. Clearly if matters did break down he’d need to be euthanised so you’d wonder why he’s fighting in favour of the breakdown?

  122. graemebird Says:

    Suppose you have a terrorist attack. There is likely a large conspiracy involving at least one governments intelligence agency.

    But you have to AT LEAST assume a small conspiracy.

    But this doesn’t give you automatic knowledge as to who the conspirators are.

    I don’t remember Z’s idiot-theory in the Ellory Queen TV show. Or in any of the Agatha Christie stuff I’d read. Or in any of Mickey Spillanes stuff.

    Matter of fact I don’t think Z’s fuckwits theory plays a part in real life policing except where things are really bad and the place is run by morons like Z.

  123. graemebird Says:

    You’ve done your dopey theory to death Z.

    Now shut up. And lets have someone come up with some evidence in the Usurpers defense.

  124. Graeme Bird Says:

    Ok so lets have some evidence.

    Obama is a usurper. Because he was born in the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa, Kenya.

    Who has evidence against this proposition?

  125. from Salon Says:

    The goal of this thread was to shed a light on why Birdy filibustered.

    An initial hypothesis presented earlier referring to an article in Salon

    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/12/05/birth_certificate/

    was that Birdie is simply a conspiracy theorist who goes into denial mode as soon as facts going against his beliefs are presented. (I.e. anyone contesting the conspiracy becomes part of the conspiracy.)

    Birdy first denied there was a conspiracy, then admitted he believed there was one, and has presented all symptoms of the real truther.

    Case closed 🙂

  126. Truther Says:

    Birdy you are lying

    Obama was born in Kings College Hospital in London, England.

    Retract your lies Birdy, retract them NOW:

  127. DH Says:

    Yes, from Salon. Bird has all the symptoms of a major psychosis. He has no evidence of anything. He’s an A-grade nutjob.

  128. 1554 Says:

    STFU, Bird. You were the one born in Kenya, not Obama. Show us the evidence you weren’t you dipstick.

  129. Bird's grandmother Says:

    I can confirm that Mr Bird was born in Kenya, as I was present at his birth.

  130. Jason Soon Says:

    Graeme
    You seem to spend a lot of time fantasising about Obama engaging in hot man on man action. Is there something you want to tell us?

    You know, your kind is pretty widely accepted by society nowadays. There’s no need to hide …

  131. Mark Hill Says:

    My theory about the usurping Kenyans like Graeme and Obama: A large beverage manufacturer is behind it all:

  132. 1554 Says:

    Bird:

    If you’re into man love, it’s ok. You can come outta the glove compartment and tell us. These days no one gives a shit.

  133. Graeme Bird Says:

    Ok so here is the story so far. Obama was born in the Coast Providence Hospital, Mombassa, Kenya.

    Does anyone have evidence that he was born anywhere else?

    The fact is that if he weren’t a usurper he would simply have come up with his birth certificate.

    That ought to be obvious.

  134. Graeme Bird Says:

    If there was nothing wrong with his birth certificate he would not have taken the risk. He would have simply shown it. Hence absolute proof that he’s a hustler and a usurper.

  135. Jason Soon Says:

    lets see some proof

  136. Jason Soon Says:

    For the love of Allah’s big tittied hoochy coochy mamas dancing the dance of Salome we were after some evidence, Turkey, not more of your bloviating.

  137. 1554 Says:

    For god’s sake bird. this swill about his birth certificate is really boring.
    STFU or get back to NZ.

    Ok so here is the story so far. Bird was born in the Coast Providence Hospital, Mombassa, Kenya.

    Does anyone have evidence that he was born anywhere else?

  138. 1554 Says:

    Z

    Would you mind banning Bird from this blog. He’s ruining it like he’s ruined other blogs.

    This ought to be a meeting place of exiles. It shouldn’t be another blog that bird ruins with his eternal blabbering.

    Bird, STFU.

  139. DH Says:

    But where would be the fun in that?

  140. 1554 Says:

    DH

    This is supposed to be a blog for exiles. That is people who have posted at Birdoptia and thrown out or summarily executed (deleted) for having diverging opinion.

    Unfortunately the usurper (bird) is trying to mount a takeover. He should be limited to 3,000 comments a day then.

  141. DH Says:

    Fair enough.

  142. graemebird Says:

    Well lets have that evidence then. You’ve filibusted around the subject long enough. The Coast Providence Hospital, Mombassa, Kenya, or somewhere else?

  143. Hawaii Says:

    Somewhere else, in FACT, in Honolulu Hawaii as certified by the Hawaii authorities and confirmed by two independent federal courts.

    You on the other hand have provided no evidence for your claims.

  144. 1554 Says:

    Bird,

    If we took up a kitty and sent you to Hawaii, do you think you could unearth the usurper’s lies?

    Start at the Dept. of motor vehicles as I’m sure they would have a copy of the real birth certificate when he went for his license, then work you way through the hospital where they say he was born and later go through the malls to find gran.

  145. Vatican Assassins Says:

    You are all fools of not listening to the insightful teachings of Mr Bird.

    We have also being investigating the case of Mr Obama an have conclusive evidence, soon to be released, the his candidacy and his presidency is a plot of the Order of Jesuits.

  146. 1554 Says:

    I wouldn’t go that far. Vat. But I think Inspector Bird needs to sleuth this thing out. Who knows what these marxist miscreants have been up to.

  147. graemebird Says:

    So nothing then?

    Nothing at all?

    This reminds me of the years long filibuster on the global warming racket that each and every one of you have gone belly up for. Although we see a bit of triangulation from Cambria often, and the rest of you sometimes. You’re basically failed analysts the lot of you. Cambria might have some cause to disagree. On the basis that his analysis is market tested. But really he’s a dummy whose learnt to be faster on his feet than everyone else. Which is something. I’m not discounting that skill in its totality.

    The leaves the rest of you as failed analysts. And Cambria too with all caveats already mentioned. And the doctrine of peak oil. A limited doctrine. Dealing only with an inner circle of liquids production. With very powerful implications. And years on I’m not sure that any of you have grasped it. Failed analysis.

    But what motivates failed analysts like yourselves to always want to get the last word in when you don’t have a case?

    Is it just a situation where you are social degenerates and you have no friends? Are you all a bunch of no-friends Nigels?

    I don’t like this overhead that you people cause me. I don’t find it fun. I never expected it when I got on the net. I got on Larry Elders website in 2003. I wrote what I thought were scholarly mini-essays. And I thought that there was something wrong with my computer because I was ignored by every cunt. My primary concern at the time, and bear in mind things were tremendously optimistic in many ways back then……. was simply that people thought that the killings of the soldiers that were going on in ones and twos…… people thought they were going to settle down and stop. And I knew they weren’t. And I thought that if I just explained what was most likely going on people would say “Well yes I understand” and hopefully others would be doing what I was doing also and then we’d be able to stop these kids getting killed.

    But then I noticed this habit of all these idiots, with the exact same methodologies as yourselves…. determined to get the last fucking word in. And succeeding in drowning any sort of reasoned analysis.

    Do something social!!! Get to the gym or something? Don’t some of you younger kids believe in making a nuisance of yourselves with women anymore?

    I just don’t know what motivates you people. If we lose track of good methodology in public debate its just children dying. You must understand that surely? It might not be my girls, my nephews or my cousins but somewhere and in huge numbers when we fuck up public policy its kids dying for no reason at all.

  148. Birdy-looses-it Says:

    Birdy you fagot stop whining!

    You’re the twit roaming the internet making a nuisance of yourself.

    Calling names and broadcasting silly theories on Mars, the Big-Bang, continental drift and of course Obama.

    And as far as being social and picking up sports, it seems to me your the guy who needs some company and to loose some weight.

  149. Jason Soon Says:

    Get to the gym or something?

    Sez this Adonis

  150. Little Timmy Says:

    Dear Mr Bird

    How do I go about developing your level of physical and mental fitness?

    Love and kisses

    Your fan,
    Timmy O’Toole

  151. The Jews Says:

    “We have also being investigating the case of Mr Obama an have conclusive evidence, soon to be released, the his candidacy and his presidency is a plot of the Order of Jesuits.”

    No, that’s wrong. It was us. The Jesuits had nothing to do with it.

    Bird’s in on the conspiracy too, BTW. And did we mention that Bird was born in Kenya?

  152. DH Says:

    ” I wrote what I thought were scholarly mini-essays. And I thought that there was something wrong with my computer because I was ignored by every cunt.”

    Now why would that be?

  153. Dr Phil Says:

    Dear Timmy

    To emulate Mr Bird’s level of physical fitness, start by drinking a litre of lard first thing in the morning. Follow that up with about $20 worth of donuts. Then 4 plates of bacon and eggs for lunch, and a nap for the rest of the day. End the day with 5 buckets of KFC and 10 large orders of fries and have a tub of ice cream before bedtime.

    Good luck.

  154. 1554 Says:

    Exactly, it was the jesuits, it was the Jews. Bird simply misheard as the two words, Jews and Jesuits could sound similar in the loud truther site.

    the jews hid his real birth certificate, Bird.

  155. graemebird Says:

    Lets not get distracted here.

    Barrack Obama was born at the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya. Does anyone have evidence contrary to this known fact?

  156. graemebird Says:

    Look at all these no-friends-Nigels. What an embarrassment.

  157. The Masons Says:

    Now listen, we have copyright over this plot. We can, however, confirm that Bird was in on it and that he is not a natural-born New Zealnder.

  158. graemebird Says:

    ho ho

    Lets not get distracted here.

    Barrack Obama was born at the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya. Does anyone have evidence contrary to this known fact?

  159. Birdy-looses-it Says:

    You’ve got it the wrong way Birdy.

    BHO was born in Honolulu Hawaii on August 4th 1961 as certified by the Hawaiian authorities and confirmed by two independent federal courts.

    The above are FACTS, what you claim are just UNSUBSTANTIATED ALLEGATIONS.

  160. JohnZ Says:

    “Burden of proof” has never been this turkey’s epistemological strong suit.

  161. Dr Phil Says:

    GrodsCorp has blown up Graeme’s picture here

    http://www.grods.com/post/5570/

  162. Steve Edney Says:

    Why it was ill advised to have birdy on the LDP ticket.

    From the link above.

    Somebody was spruiking for the LDP over in BoltHades tother day. I’ll see if I can find it. If Birdbrain was one of it’s candidates that’s all you need to know really, isn’t it?

  163. graemebird Says:

    I’m listening to Graffiti bridge. I’m going to have to add that song, if not the album, to my societal survival guide when the breakdown comes. But the love symbol and musical genius has ethnically cleansed his work from you tube.

    Repetitive listening to the song “Graffiti Bridge” is now the new pre-requisite… to my lessons….. which in any sober light….. have been survivalist in nature.

    I have no link for you.

    You must not rob the Prince and you must consult Apple.

    But as to the real order of business lets not get distracted here.

    Barrack Obama was born at the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya. Does anyone have evidence contrary to this known fact?

  164. DH Says:

    Your taste in music is also down the crapper.

    And yes, we have his birth certificate. We do not, however, have yours as you were born at the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya.

    Now, who is in on this conspracy of yours? Was it the Martians?

  165. 1554 Says:

    No Bird, we say you were born in Mombassa. Unless you can prove otherwise, you have no right to be living here as a NZ’er transplant.

    And proof of your birth certificate won’t work.

    evidence please.

  166. The Trilateral Commission Says:

    Dammit, we forged Obama’s birth certificate. What would the Jesuits, Jews or Masons know about bribing hospital registrars? Bloody has-beens.

  167. T the D Says:

    Not at all. I masterminded the Obama forgery so I could have something to complain about

  168. graemebird Says:

    There is no forged birth certificate. You are lying. Obama’s birth certificate, forged or otherwise, is under seal.

    At least stay abreast of the story you dummies. And fake T the D. Can you stop impersonating Tricia. That is very bad form.

  169. graemebird Says:

    So in fact none of you dummies have any evidence that Obama wasn’t born in the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya.

    Every day we can scroll through this shitrain of idiocy from you pathetic juvenile cunts. And you just have nothing.

    You are talking as if some sort of fake birth certificate has been released identifying his birthplace.

    But this is just lies.

    No such certificate, fake or otherwise has been released ever. This is a leftist lying talking-point you’ve adopted like the stupid cunts you are. You ought all be euthanised.

  170. graemebird Says:

    Its pretty clear I think that its JohnZ impersonating Tricia Adams. If you’ve ever met JohnZ you would have to say that he’s a somewhat ambivalent fellow. One wonders if he knows whether he’s a man or a lady.

  171. graemebird Says:

    “And yes, we have his birth certificate”

    No we don’t you fat lying cunt. Its under seal in Hawaii. None of you have ever seen any representation, of an Obama birth certificate, fake or otherwise.

    Do you understand that now you fucking moronic lying fat cunt.

  172. Fyodor Says:

    None of you have ever seen any representation, of an Obama birth certificate, fake or otherwise.

    Neither have you. And yet, here you are, ranting to the world in your uniquely fowl cadence that you KNOW the guy was born somewhere other than he claims.

    How do you know, Turkey?

    Where is YOUR EVIDENCE?

  173. graemebird Says:

    Lets have that evidence dummy.

  174. DH Says:

    I think we can safely say that Graeme’s comprehensively lost this one. Just as he lost other debates with his loopy views on ‘expanding’ earth and general nuttiness about Martians.

  175. Fyodor Says:

    Lets have that evidence dummy.

    Exactly, dummy. Produce the evidence or admit that you’re lying.

  176. Mark Hill Says:

    “Do you understand that now you fucking moronic lying fat cunt.”

    The irony is so good it has to be fattening.

  177. 1554 Says:

    Bird:

    Show us the evidence you weren’t born in Africa. Where’s the fucking evidence Bird, you lying cocksucker.

  178. graemebird Says:

    So still no evidence whatsoever.

    What a complete bunch of fucking morons.

    His birth certificate is under seal. Do you understand that? You fucking dumb cunts?

    I’m fucking insulted that Cambria ever flew to Sydney and pretended to be one of us. That he pretended to be in favour of human freedom. When all the time the guy was an idiot and a leftist traitor.

    Still no evidence then?

    What a bunch of fucking losers.

  179. Fyodor Says:

    It’s YOUR dopey conspiracy theory, Turkey.

    The onus is on YOU to back it up with evidence.

    Produce the evidence or admit you’re a craven liar.

  180. graemebird Says:

    Its not a conspiracy theory. Its a theory about you and people like you being a stupid cunt.

    So you have no evidence Fyodor. You are a fucking moron. You always were. But its good now to have Cambria outed and on your side of this.

  181. Fyodor Says:

    What a bunch of fucking losers.

    This, from the Dobell Doughboy.

  182. graemebird Says:

    So here is Fyodor. A complete cunt. A fellow who has never been right about anything. And he’s pushing this theory that Soetoro is eligible to be President.

    And yet Fyodor doesn’t have a scrap of evidence for this dopey theory.

    Yet we all know that Obama’s birth certificate is under seal.

    Thats a fact that not one person here disputes.

    You guys are just such fucking dumb cunts.

    Just a bunch of zombies.

  183. Fyodor Says:

    Birdy, if you haven’t seen his birth certificate, why do you believe he was born other than where he, and everyone who’s ever sighted his birth certificate, states he was born?

    What EVIDENCE do you have for your moronic theory?

  184. graemebird Says:

    Flesh your theory out. In your world, you reckon he’s got the birth certificate. He can produce a vault copy for 12 bucks and 50 cents. And you reckon he’s chosen rather to retain three law firms and spend over a million dollars hosing down multiple legal cases……..

    …. And under your theory he’s done this even though his birth certificate checks out?

    Is that your theory?

    Have you got some evidence for it you fucking moron?

    Why do you even show up Fyodor?

    Is it just to display what a dumb cunt you are?

    Whats your motive?

  185. Fyodor Says:

    Produce the evidence, Turkey.

  186. graemebird Says:

    You are just a moron mate. You were always like this. Whenever it came to economics. Banking. Anything. You were always the same.d

    He has his birth certificate under seal. Do you disagree with this fact?

    It would cost him 12.50 to get a copy.

    Are you following me so far or am I going too fast for you?

    And he’s chosen instead to keep 3 law firms on the payroll as one legal case after another comes up challenging his eligibility.

    And your theory is that he’s eligible.

    Now can you flesh your theory out a bit you stupid fuck?

    If thats not too much to ask?

  187. graemebird Says:

    So no evidence still?

    What a bunch of fucking dummies. Jason Soon. A dummy. For all to see. Joseph Cambria. Manifestly a complete fuckwit. Proven as such. Fyodor. A complete cunt. A stooge. Wrong about all things. To stupid to be allowed to get away without a late late late abortion. John Z. An idiot and not even a man. Prefers to pretend to be women whilst on the internet.

    And not one of you with any evidence.

  188. Genghis Sun Says:

    Graeme’s latest fantasy:

    Penny Wong may be open to seduction by Chinese lesbian spies

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/03/24/proof-that-obama-is-a-usurper/#comment-22726

    Because of course all lesbians only go down on people of the same race.

  189. graemebird Says:

    So the theory is then that all his records have be sealed, though the election hung in the balance. And he is just doing this all for kicks?

    Any evidence for this theory? Or an alternative on this theme?

  190. graemebird Says:

    I was merely saying that Penny was gay. Then I went to wiki and it confirmed that she was indeed gay. So there you are.

  191. Genghis Sun Says:

    let’s see your birth certificate Graeme or is that Wahhab-Bird?

  192. graemebird Says:

    One wishes that they were more straightforward about the usurper. He’s gay too. But they are unlikely to state it so openly as they did for Penny.

  193. graemebird Says:

    Lets see your birth certificate too.

    We might have to get this leftist mantra out of your system.

  194. graemebird Says:

    Lets see your birth certificate too.

    We might have to get this leftist mantra out of your system.

    Do you imagine you’ll ever get sick of this dumb cunts comeback for communists.

  195. graemebird Says:

    Lets see your birth certificate too.

    We might have to get this leftist mantra out of your system.

    Is this dummy-comeback out of your system yet Jason Soon?

  196. graemebird Says:

    Lets see your birth certificate too.

    We might have to get this leftist mantra out of your system.

    Often enough for you dummy?

  197. Genghis Sun Says:

    Have you been receiving favours from King Fahd Graeme?

    If not, why this widespread advocacy for using more oil and banning interest?

    Time to disclose your interests, Graeme Al-Wahhabird

  198. graemebird Says:

    Lets see your birth certificate too.

    We might have to get this leftist mantra out of your system.

    So have you got that evidence yet for Obama being eligible yet Jason Soon you fuckwit?

    And since this is such an important issue why have you not showcased it on your own blog?

    Marxists get special protection for some reason? So long as they are faithful to the radical islamist cause.

    Time for a thread on this issue. Or go home.

  199. graemebird Says:

    Lets see your birth certificate too.

    We might have to get this leftist mantra out of your system.

    This snappy comeback for morons? Out of your system yet dummy?

  200. graemebird Says:

    Right so we all know that his records are hidden. His certificate is under seal. So we know he’s a usurper. It follows directly. Were he not a usurper he would have saved himself a million dollars and simply come good with his evidence.

  201. Genghis Sun Says:

    *Yawn*

  202. graemebird Says:

    Yeah fantastic argument Jason Soon.

    You are a fuckwit mate.

    So in reality you know he’s a usurper and you don’t think its an important matter. It doesn’t matter in your view that a marxist, and a proven radical islamacist promoter has illegally conned his way into the White House and is now running two trillion dollar deficits, trying to promote involuntary servitude, is fixing to raise taxes and is in presumptive control of the most lethal military force ever ammassed on the planet.

    You are a fucking dumb cunt to you this is of no importance at all.

    Fucking bring the issue up on your site you blockhead.

  203. DH Says:

    Graeme here:

    “I was merely saying that Penny was gay. ”

    Graeme on Bird’s-blog-of-stupid:

    “She’s open to temptation by Chinese sheilas also I would have thought.”

    Shorter Bird: ‘Who are you going to believe? Me or your own lying eyes?’

  204. graemebird Says:

    Well she’s gay isn’t she? I thought she was. Then I went to wiki and found out that I was right.

    This endless argument-free filibuster from you kids gets boring you know fatty.

  205. 1554 Says:

    Bird:

    The evidence please, we want the evidence to prove where you were born. Go!

  206. graemebird Says:

    No you are confused Cambria. This is about Barry Soetoro.

    Lets have your evidence bootnigger. And stop making a fool of yourself you stupid old man.

  207. 1554 Says:

    It’s up to you to present the evidence. You collect every single conspiracy theory and then demand people produce evidence to absurdity. You idiot.

  208. Fyodor Says:

    Still no evidence, Turkey? LIAR.

  209. graemebird Says:

    He has his ID under seal.

    So he’s a usurper.

    Thats my evidence where is yours?

    You are a fucking moron Fyodor. And you always were. Right from the start you never had a case.

  210. graemebird Says:

    Obama was born in the Coast Providence Hospital Mombassa Kenya. No records exist of him being born anywhere else.

    Now does anyone have any evidence that goes against this known fact?

  211. Fyodor Says:

    Thats my evidence where is yours?

    1. That’s not evidence. You have NO EVIDENCE.
    2. I’ve made no claim requiring evidence.
    3. You’re a liar.

  212. graemebird Says:

    Lets go again. You have no evidence that Obama is eligible to be President.

    So you are stooges.

    Obama was born in the Coast Providence Hospital Mombassa Kenya. No records exist of him being born anywhere else.

    Now does anyone have any evidence that goes against this known fact?

    Now if he were born somewhere else there would be evidence for it.

  213. Fyodor Says:

    Obama was born in the Coast Providence Hospital Mombassa Kenya. No records exist of him being born anywhere else.

    Now does anyone have any evidence that goes against this known fact?

    It’s not a known fact. You have no evidence that it is. Prove it, or admit you’re a ridiculous liar.

  214. graemebird Says:

    Look we know where he was born right? People were there at his birth right? Usually people are there at a persons birth. And the people who were at his birth all agree where he was born.

    Its a big Kenyan Hospital that overlooks the Indian Ocean. No-one is claiming that he was born anywhere else. So he’s not eligible. If he were born somewhere else there would be evidence for this but there is none.

  215. Fyodor Says:

    Look we know where he was born right? People were there at his birth right? Usually people are there at a persons birth. And the people who were at his birth all agree where he was born.

    Its a big Kenyan Hospital that overlooks the Indian Ocean. No-one is claiming that he was born anywhere else.

    “No-one”, Birdy? That’s a lie, for one thing.

    If YOU think he was born in Kenya, PROVE IT. Where is the EVIDENCE fella?

    Don’t come back here until you find it, you lazy, useless liar.

  216. graemebird Says:

    There is no competing contrary theory or testimony in terms of hospitals where he may have been born. There is not some international hospitals competition as to where the new messiahs birthplace was said to be. There are no people who are saying that they were present at his birth who are also saying that he was born elsewhere.

    The first-hand testimony that we have is totally monopolistic. Those that claim they were there at the usurpers birth, speak with one voice, as to where he was born. The Coast Providence Hospital Mombassa Kenya aka other names that reflect retranslation back into English from various other languages. But its the same hospital.

    Its a 100% known monopoly as to his birthplace. Which isn’t surprising. Since everyone who knew me when I was brought back from the hospital would also tell you the same 100% story.

    So we know where he was born. We just want to find out if there was any evidence for an alternative birthplace.

  217. graemebird Says:

    Well prove your theory you cunt.

    We know he’s a usurper.

    We are just waiting for some contrary evidence for the alternative point of view.

    No evidence from stooge-town then.

  218. Fyodor Says:

    All of that is bullshit you made up. Produce EVIDENCE, you lying moron.

  219. graemebird Says:

    Well how about some evidence you stupid cunt?

    Here we have you Cambria and others and you cannot find a single thing.

    This is the situation so far WE KNOW FOR AN ABSOLUTE FACT HE’S A USURPER.

    All we want is for the other side to come up with some evidence for the alternate point of view.

  220. Fyodor Says:

    This is the situation so far WE KNOW FOR AN ABSOLUTE FACT HE’S A USURPER.

    No, you don’t. You have no EVIDENCE that he is.

    Produce it or admit you’re lying.

  221. graemebird Says:

    No no. We know he’s a usurper.

  222. Fyodor Says:

    We know he’s a usurper.

    HOW do you know, Turkey? Based on WHAT EVIDENCE?

  223. graemebird Says:

    We know he’s a usurper.

    This is a known fact.

    He was born in Kenya.

    So he’s a usurper.

    Its not a controversial issue where he was born. We know the country and the hospital. And no evidence exists otherwise.

  224. graemebird Says:

    So you are a cunt and a liar. Because you cannot produce any evidence for your theory.

    But still that doesn’t change the fact that we know he’s a usurper. Since we know where he was born and it wasn’t the United States. On top of that he’s sealed all his records. Not just his birth certificate. The whole lot.

  225. Obama's nurse Says:

    Obama was born in Hawaii. I was at the birth.

  226. graemebird Says:

    See we already know he’s a usurper. So apparently you people don’t wish to do anything about it.

    Just fine with you leftists hey. We all know that he’s a usurper. But because he’s a marxist you guys are fine with it.

  227. Fyodor Says:

    We know he’s a usurper.

    This is a known fact.

    He was born in Kenya.

    So he’s a usurper.

    Its not a controversial issue where he was born. We know the country and the hospital. And no evidence exists otherwise.

    Prove your dopey assertions, Turkey, don’t repeat them.

    We know you’re a clueless nutjob; your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to prove that you actually know what you’re talking about, for once.

    Now, are you gonna give us the evidence, or are you going to chicken out? Buk-buk-buk-BUKKA!

  228. graemebird Says:

    No you are lying fatty. He wasn’t born in Hawaii and you weren’t at his birth.

    There is a bit myth going around that we don’t already know that he is a usurper. But we do. Because we know where he was born.

  229. Fyodor Says:

    He wasn’t born in Hawaii and you weren’t at his birth.

    1. You weren’t there, either.
    2. Prove he wasn’t born in Hawaii.

    There is a bit myth going around that we don’t already know that he is a usurper. But we do. Because we know where he was born.

    Produce the evidence, or admit you’re lying.

  230. graemebird Says:

    You are just ignoring the issue. This usurper has to be taken down.

    He’s got to be made to stand down. Since he was born in Kenya. If I’m wrong find the evidence. Stupid cunts.

  231. Fyodor Says:

    P.S. Buk-bukka-buk-BUKKABUKKA!

  232. graemebird Says:

    Right so you approve of him being a usurper.

    And from where do you get this irresponsible attitude.

    Look. We know he’s a fake.

    This is not a controversial issue.

    Everyone who knows the facts of the matter know that he’s a fake.

    You all know it too.

    You are all irresponsible cunts.

    But go ahead and make an argument for your point of view.

  233. graemebird Says:

    So the bottom line is you all approve of this violation of the US constitution and you primitives don’t think there will be any consequences to this.

  234. Obama's nurse Says:

    No, I really was at the birth in Hawaii.

  235. graemebird Says:

    You all know he’s a usurper. So make the argument in favour of having a usurper-President.

  236. 1554 Says:

    Bird.

    Listen to Uncle Fyodor and produce the evidence. That’s all we’re asking. It’s not a big ask, is it?

    Produce the evidence or stfu. That about closes the case.

  237. Fyodor Says:

    Right so you approve of him being a usurper.

    No approval indicated, or required, as noone has proved he is a usurper.

    And from where do you get this irresponsible attitude.

    From not being a ridiculous crank who’ll believe any old bullshit floating around the web due to his pre-existing delusional biases.

    Look. We know he’s a fake.

    No, you look: you haven’t a fucking clue – or shred of evidence – on the subject.

    This is not a controversial issue.

    No, it isn’t. You’re the only one here claiming he wasn’t born in Hawaii. Everyone else here thinks this is just another of your moronic, unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

    Everyone who knows the facts of the matter know that he’s a fake.

    Prove it.

    You all know it too.

    No, we don’t. And you don’t know it either.

    You are all irresponsible cunts.

    Says the Dobell Doughboy conspiracy theorist [sic].

    But go ahead and make an argument for your point of view.

    OK: your lunatic theory has no substantiation whatsoever. Now prove me wrong.

  238. DH Says:

    Two simple questions for Graeme to answer:

    a) What were Obama’s birth notices doing in Hawaiian papers in 1961?
    b) Who placed them?

    No answer=you lose again.

  239. graemebird Says:

    Are you in favour of a usurper President.

    Since we know he’s a usurper, then there must be some reason why you find favour with this state of affairs.

  240. graemebird Says:

    Answer you own question fatty. I assume his grandparents put those notices in. What do you think fatty? You expect elves did it? You expect Santa did it? The tooth fairy?

    I suspect his grandparents did it as any good grandparents would with a new young solo mother.

  241. graemebird Says:

    So I’m saying his grandparents. They probably would have done it rather than his mother who you would expect to be tired and busy looking after her new baby.

    So I say his grandparents fatty.

    What do you think.

    Now lets not get distracted talking about irrelevant details.

    Are there any advantages in having an illegal President?

  242. 1554 Says:

    Yes of course, that’s because the grandparents took a time machine to 2008 and saw that little Barry was going to become the prez. So they moved quickly and made sure he was registered in Hawaii.

    You clown, Bird.

  243. Fyodor Says:

    Since we know he’s a usurper, then there must be some reason why you find favour with this state of affairs.

    Since you don’t know either, or much of anything, the point is moot.

    Answer you own question fatty.

    Now there’s irony. The only person here that we can PROVE is fat, is calling other people “fatty”. Not strong on the facts, are ya, Turkey?

    Now, where is that EVIDENCE, LIAR?

  244. graemebird Says:

    Whats your point Cambria.

    He was born in Kenya. And one expects that once the girl got home alone, with or without a husband, and she’s only 17 years old. Well one suspects his grandparents would have made that notification. As anyone would.

    What advantages do you think having an illegal President has?

  245. graemebird Says:

    What was your point Cambria?

    She’s a 17 year old girl with a new baby, just home from Kenya. Who do you think would have made the notification? The mailman? Some nosy neighbour?

    What are the advantages of having a corrupt, illegal, marxist Usurper? You are obviously powerfully happy with the situation.

  246. graemebird Says:

    Fatty was there a point to this question? The grandparents would be my answer. Do you have another answer?

  247. graemebird Says:

    I can prove DH is fat. But you cannot prove that Obama was born anywhere else but the Coast Providence Hospital Kenya.

    Is there any great advantage to having illegal marxist conmen in power generally?

  248. 1554 Says:

    You are obviously powerfully happy with the situation.

    No, not at all as I think Hillary or Romney would have made far better prez’s. However unlike you I don’t forage around every conspiracy site on the web hidden under a rock and believe the shit they pull, you screaming lunatic.

    He’s the legit prez of the US. That’s it.

    So unless you can come up with the evidence that he isn’t stfu.

    As to the other stuff…. Let’s say he is bi sexual, so fucking what? And other than you and those far right loons who gives a shit these days anyways.

  249. Fyodor Says:

    I can prove DH is fat.

    So prove it.

    Then prove Obama was born in Kenya. If you can’t, admit you’re a liar.

  250. graemebird Says:

    I cannot be bothered. Go to his Youtube website. His name is Don Haraldo. He’s a real porker. He has a recent video. So unless he hasn’t eaten at all since then he’s still a bloated hog.

  251. Fyodor Says:

    So you lied about that, too? Typical.

  252. DH Says:

    “His name is Don Haraldo.”

    Well somebody might be named Don Haraldo, but it sure ain’t me.

  253. 1554 Says:

    Don Haraldo is the Kenyan doc that delivered the O’man in Kenya. Bird has the website to prove it.

  254. graemebird Says:

    Yeah good one Cambria. Here is documentary evidence of you and Soon fighting over Obama.

  255. Genghis Sun Says:

    Here is Graeme at his favourite restaurant

  256. birdy-lost-it Says:

    Our feathered friend has now gone a step further claiming BHO is a Marxist.

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/03/27/the-advantages-of-an-illegal-marxist-president/

    He’s certainly a Liberal in the American sense of the word, but he’s no Marxist.

    May I suggest a new thread: “Is Obama a Marxist?”

    I, for one, would like to see the crap which will certainly come out of that, and possibly some intelligent discourse on what is:
    – Marxism
    – Socialism
    – Liberalism
    – Conservatism

  257. cock shot bird Says:

    Bird:

    Every time you come up with a conspiracy theory, you’re going to get one these to the nuts.

  258. graemebird Says:

    Distasteful. But a great performance by the actors.

  259. graemebird Says:

    “He’s certainly a Liberal in the American sense of the word, but he’s no Marxist.”

    Where did you get that idea from champ? Can you back that one up? Or is this the leftist gift of second sight? I sez you be THR talking. And if so you have a rather naieve view of your fellow marxists.

  260. birdy-lost-it Says:

    Aaaaah Birdy

    Yes I can back it up my feathered fiend.

    BHO is undeniably a “Big Government” Liberal, but he’s no Marxist because … he does not intend to nationalize the US “production means”. (The plan Timothy Geithner proposed for the banks is is even attacked by Liberals as being to favorable to the private sector!!!)

    It is precisely because you, and others, use words such as Marxism and Socialism without understanding their meaning that I suggested a thread on the topic.

  261. graemebird Says:

    He’s already been nationalising stuff you dope. And he’s only ninety days in. You are an idiot. It wasn’t within his constitutional powers to nationalise stuff, and so of course it could not be part of his electioneering. But he’s done it anyway.

    What a completely fucking childish argument you are making.

    Try again.

    DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION AT ALL THAT HE IS NOT A MARXIST.

  262. THR Says:

    DO YOU HAVE ANY INDICATION AT ALL THAT HE IS NOT A MARXIST.

    Don’t worry Birdman, I’m not sockpuppeting here.

    Obama has never identified as a Marxist. He doesn’t cite Marx, or spout rhetoric that is close to Marxist. He has had the opportunity to nationalise a range of things, such as banks, but has instead chosen bail-outs, which have probably been the more expensive option.
    The hallmarks of Marxism, such as a critical view of capitalism, an ambition to work towards a classless society, a view of labour as exploitative under capital etc, are all noticeably absent in Obama.

    Lenin and Trotsky were Marxists. Obama is a democratically elected leader in a liberal democracy. See the difference?

    Oh, and one more thing – it’s a bit gutless of you, Birdy, to be taking cheap shots at Grods commenters (inter alia) at your blog, and allow no right of reply.

  263. graemebird Says:

    But do you have any evidence that he is not a marxist given his family background and his behaviour?

  264. graemebird Says:

    “Oh, and one more thing – it’s a bit gutless of you, Birdy, to be taking cheap shots at Grods commenters (inter alia) at your blog, and allow no right of reply.”

    What? Four-eyed Scotty banned me when I was whipping them like yesterdays greyhound.

    Toaf can show up and account for his snide comments anytime he likes.

    He’s not allowed to lie, or make other snide comments. But if he wants to make his view of matters clear he has a free hand and always has had that free hand.

    What is it with you people? You think you can show up at my joint and spray graffiti everywhere and thats all normal and according to Hoyles?

  265. birdy-lost-it Says:

    Birdy,

    Do you have any evidence that you are not batshit crazy given your behavior?

  266. the-graffiti-guy Says:

    From
    https://graemebirdforum.wordpress.com/2009/03/22/question-filibustered/#comment-1881

    “You think you can show up at my joint and spray graffiti everywhere and thats all normal and according to Hoyles?”

    Brought to you by the guy who calls everybody names. LOL

  267. GMB Says:

    So nothing so far?

    Let me know when you have some sort of case. And let me know when you stop drinking this oestrogen-mimic water and become men again. Because time is ticking.

  268. THR Says:

    But do you have any evidence that he is not a marxist given his family background and his behaviour?

    Yeah. Marxism isn’t hereditary.

    Obama doesn’t have any Marxist policies as far as I’m aware, and doesn’t identify as a Marxist. Moreover, actual Marxists are staunchly critical of Obama, both in terms of domestic and foreign policy. (Most would argue, however, that Bush was worse). Have a look at the Communist Manifesto, and see if there’s even a single policy in there to which Obama is committed.

  269. 1554 Says:

    THR:

    I don’t really think you ought to be critical of Bird as that would like throwing a rock through your own window. Like you Bird is a hard edged extreme leftist with serious totalitarian tendencies.

    Both of you ought to be hanging your heads in shame.

  270. THR Says:

    Any evidence of these alleged ‘totalitarian tendencies’?

    In any case, the point here is that Obama is not a Marxist of any sort.

  271. Conspiracy theorised « Graeme Bird commenters in exile Says:

    […] By lyrebirdy Bird has changed his story: we now have multiple posts asserting that a ”small conspiracy” is hiding the truth of Obama’s Kenyan origins. I assume a small conspiracy buttressed […]

  272. graemebird Says:

    Lets have that evidence that Obama is not a Marxist.

  273. Fyodor Says:

    Let’s have that EVIDENCE that Obama was not born in Hawaii. Cough it up, Dobell Doughboy.

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