Conspiracy theorised

Bird has changed his story: we now have multiple posts asserting that a “small conspiracy” is hiding the truth of Obama’s Kenyan origins.

I assume a small conspiracy buttressed by leftist lying

But just how small could this conspiracy be? At an absolute minimum, the following people must be involved:

  • The president.
  • Many of the president’s aides and staffers.
  • The president’s parents.
  • Many members of the Hawaiian police who are covering up Obama’s murder/kidnap of his own grandmother.
  • Every single person in the Hawaiian department of health with access to the birth registry. They would be able to cross-reference the published birth certificate with department records. No doubt the Republicans and Hillary supporting democrats have already done so.
  • Two federal judges.
  • Many Kenyan officials who would be able to produce Obama’s Kenyan birth record (if it existed).
  • Dozens of Hillary and McCain operatives who would have thoroughly investigated this story during the primaries and the election campaign.

So at an absolute minimum, over one hundred individuals are alleged to be involved. These range from federal court judges to Hawaiian police officers and health department bureaucrats and are spread over two continents and a pacific island. 

Given the overwhelming evidence in favour of the official narrative, you’d expect Graeme to have some aces up his sleeve. Laughably, this is the only evidence offered so far:

So in fact none of you dummies have any evidence that Obama wasn’t born in the Coast Providence Hospital in Mombassa Kenya.

So the only evidence in favour of the deranged conspiracy theory is that no one has evidence against the theory. Sadly for Graeme literally hundreds of debunkings exist, including this modest effort.

Graeme knows this. Graeme is a liar.

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407 Responses to “Conspiracy theorised”

  1. 1554 Says:

    No, I really don’t think that in his own deluded kind, Bird thinks he’s lying. Bird’s just an idiot caught up in the conspiracy theory.

  2. the-graffiti-guy Says:

    Thanks for this new thread, your summary of the situation is very accurate.

    I would however parcially disagree with your conclusion.

    “So the only evidence in favour of the deranged conspiracy theory is that no one has evidence against the theory. Sadly for Graeme literally hundreds of debunkings exist, including this modest effort.

    Graeme knows this. Graeme is a liar.”

    I don’t think he knows this, and hence although he’s not telling the truth he’s not lying. Everything seems to indicate that he has actually convinced himself that he is genuinely right.

    Think of it, what would happen to your cognitive capabilities if, like him, your “social life” was to spend hours on end surfing conspiracy theory websites with no-one close to you laughing into your face.

  3. 1554 Says:

    Yea but how do we clean his brain of all these conspiracy theories?

    This would be a really good thread for Bird not to interfere, so we can figure out what help he needs.

  4. the-graffiti-guy Says:

    “Yea but how do we clean his brain of all these conspiracy theories?”

    Lobotomy seems like the only way.

    Although it may seem heartless, I don’t intend trying to cure this nut. Its impossible via the internet and I don’t want to loose my sanity.

  5. 1554 Says:

    Yes, a lobotomy could be the only humane thing. I’m for it in a big way.

    It’s clean, fast and it will get him home in a better state.

  6. graemebird Says:

    No-one is hiding his Kenyan origins. Everyone knows he was born in Kenya. This isn’t some esoteric knowledge. We know the hospital. We know that he’s never been booked in as a client in any Hawaiian hospital EVER.

    Your thread is a mix-and-match lie which quotes me and then changes the context of what I was talking about.

    I know he was born in Kenya as do you. There is nothing hidden in this story.

  7. graemebird Says:

    I don’t hypoethesise any small conspiracy to do with his birthplace. We all know that he’s born in Kenya. And it is almost never claimed otherwise. Certainly no evidence exists that he was born anywhere else but Mombassa. There isn’t even any forged documents claiming he was born anywhere else but Mombassa.

  8. graemebird Says:

    You appear to believe that a great many people have access to his birth records in Hawaii. They do not. The documents have been placed under seal. So in theory no-one has access to them. Maybe only two or three officials got to see them in the first place prior to them being placed under seal.

    This is exactly the approach you guys take to global warming. Instead of noting the lack of evidence you say it must be true or else the claims must be part of a conspiracy. So its really a matter of people like you not facing reality and then claiming that unreality must be reality otherwise there would be a conspiracy.

    But the existence of a conspiracy or otherwise cannot change the core reality of his birth in Mombassa.

  9. graemebird Says:

    The non-evidence that the conspiracy-over-ride argument comprises is like parallel mirrors. Here you are, all the stupid people in this world, going along with the idea that the emperor has these clothes. And your reasoning is that if the emperor didn’t have any clothes, well that cannot be right because that would mean a giant conspiracy.

    But its just you being an idiot and people like you being idiots.

    So this is the case for every argument on this forum. There is no multiplier. But you say there is otherwise why would everyone believe it. There is currently no President. But you say there must be a President or why would people act like Soetoro was President. There is no problem with CO2 warming the planet. But you say there must be or otherwise the conspiracy would be vast.

    So in all cases its just idiots like Z who refuse to look at the evidence straight. We are talking a full-blown obsession with evading the evidence.

  10. graemebird Says:

    Is there any time at all when you are going to put down the bandwagon argument and simply look at the evidence straight?

    Why not try global warming as a warmup. Or try the multiplier as a warmup? Can any of you find evidence for these things?

    Or your idea that nuclear needs a headstart via a carbon-tax, which in reality would make nuclear less viable. You see these are all leftist mantra arguments and you will find nothing in them. But you believe them anyway Z. Because you’ve always been an idiot.

  11. graemebird Says:

    This was pretty much the same mode of thought that had Cambria spruiking for the bailouts like someone out of an insane asylum. There he was over on Thoughts-On-Freedom, never once putting a coherent argument together and going with the bailouts. The “reasoning” must have been loosely that 1. Paulson must be smart because look at how much money he has made. 2. Bernanke and the others went along with it. 3. So it must be fine.

    Actually its straight stealing, it misses the opportunity to write off vast debt, its atrocious economics and nowhere can this moron bootnigger be found ever to have come up with a solid argument in favour of this sort of bailout. But he’s never backed down from it.

    So its just stupid people jumping on the bandwagon. If you are calling stupid people jumping on the bandwagon a conspiracy, well you call it what you want. But the point is if you are a non-zombie you take the evidence straight. You don’t filter it through the idea that truth is determined by idiots like Cambria who jump on the bandwagon.

  12. graemebird Says:

    Here we have the last three threads based on no evidence whatsoever but simply on this bandwagon idiocy.

    So is that your only trick Z? Are you simply going to do one thread after another based solely around the bandwagon fallacy?

    You must understand just what spineless insects I think you all are. Just what low-life parasites. You are incapable of thinking straight on any subject at all it seems.

  13. the-graffiti-guy Says:

    Birdy,

    You don’t have a single piece of evidence for any of the crappy theories you’ve just sputtered out.

    I am sure the voices in your head who tell you these things seem very real to you. But the simple truth is that you are nuts.

  14. graemebird Says:

    No no you are lying. It is YOU that cannot conme up with a single piece of evidence for Soetoro being eligible for office. You’ve got this matter entirely ass-backwards.

    So lets have your evidence now. Since Obama was born in Mombassa, what evidence do you have that he is eligible?

  15. graemebird Says:

    See you are an idiot. We know he’s a usurper. The argument has moved on. Do you see some sort of advantage in having a Marxist usurper in the White House?

  16. the-graffiti-guy Says:

    No I don’t, neither do the American people. That’s why they settled for a legitimately elected liberal.

    You are nuts.

  17. graemebird Says:

    Lets go again. What evidence do you have that Soetoro or “Obama” if you prefer, is eligible.

    Lying isn’t evidence. No matter how unpalatable this might seem to idiots like yourself.

  18. graemebird Says:

    This is really like your support of bank bailouts Cambria you dim bulb. You could not find any evidence for that either. Or your support of maintaining high spending levels during a monetary crunch. No evidence for that either.

    So you are just a fucking moron mate.

  19. graemebird Says:

    Have you noticed that NONE of you can come up with a scrap of evidence ever for the idiocy that you spout? You base everything entirely on your conga-lines of similarly mindless people. Each following every other. True primitives. Truly tribal sub-human shit-for-brains degenerates.

    Now lets go again. Your evidence for Obama’s eligibility. Go!!!!

  20. the-graffiti-guy Says:

    The burden of proof is on you “mate”, the evidence of Obama’s legitimacy has been provided to you time & time again.

    You are nuts. (And a coward for deleting posts on your blog.)

    Now if you will excuse me I am going to attend to other business and let the others take over.

  21. graemebird Says:

    Well come on then you fucking useless cunt. Lets see that evidence?????

    Hurry up you fucking stupid cunt.

  22. graemebird Says:

    You lied and said he was eligible. Even though you know he’s born in Kenya.

    If you are going to lie you have to back it up.

    If you are saying he wasn’t born in the Coast providence hospital on the ocean road in Mombassa Kenya…. Where are you claiming he was born?

  23. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey, why lie and say no birth certificate was published?

    It’s real and is linked to from this very post.

  24. graemebird Says:

    You are lying. No birth certificate for him has EVER been published.

    So you are lying about it again.

    So why about it again?

    You see you believe this even though your entire case is based upon you lying.

    What do you think a certificate of live birth is evidence for? Its evidence for the fact that he was not born in an Hawaiian hospital. You get a certificate of live birth if you show up with a baby and nothing else. Obviously the baby was born somewhere. But not in a Hawaiian hospital.

  25. graemebird Says:

    Why did you try that lie on again Z you cunt?

    You people are maniacs. You actually think you can put forward a case based, not on the facts of reality, but only upon your own lies.

    There is no question that this corruption is the result of generations of growing parasitism. 100 years ago it would be inconceivable that you’d have such numbers of people willing to lie, follow the herd in this fashion, and base their total case on matters, not on reality but on their own lies.

  26. JohnZ Says:

    Wrong. From wikipedia (and any number of other sites):

    Therefore, the federal and state governments have traditionally cooperated, to some extent, to improve vital statistics. From 1900 to 1946 the U.S. Census Bureau designed standard birth certificates, collected vital statistics on a national basis, and generally sought to improve the accuracy of vital statistics. In 1946 that responsibility was passed to the U.S. Public Health Service. Unlike the British system of recording all births in “registers”, the states file an individual document for each and every birth. In most states, this document was, and still is, entitled a “Certificate of Live Birth”. [3][4]

  27. graemebird Says:

    If his birth certificate was published Z then why is it under seal?

    Have you asked yourself that you stupid lying cunt?

    So in your view Z, he’s published his birth certificate and put it under seal BOTH AT THE SAME TIME.

    You see how this works? The entire case is based on herdlike sub-species animals lying all the time like lunatic children. This is the entire case in favour of Soetoro’s eligibility.

  28. graemebird Says:

    No I’m not wrong about anything you fucking lying cunt.

    You’ve made a quote. And it doesn’t show me to be wrong about anything. So you are just a maniac mate.

    Once again we see that your entire case is built upon the fact that you are a degenerate who thinks his own lies are evidence enough.

  29. JohnZ Says:

    Feel the humiliation, turkey. From the quote:

    In most states, this document was, and still is, entitled a “Certificate of Live Birth”. [3][4]

  30. graemebird Says:

    Here I’ll tell you what. I’ll make the quote.

    “Therefore, the federal and state governments have traditionally cooperated, to some extent, to improve vital statistics. From 1900 to 1946 the U.S. Census Bureau designed standard birth certificates, collected vital statistics on a national basis, and generally sought to improve the accuracy of vital statistics. In 1946 that responsibility was passed to the U.S. Public Health Service. Unlike the British system of recording all births in “registers”, the states file an individual document for each and every birth. In most states, this document was, and still is, entitled a “Certificate of Live Birth”. ”

    It doesn’t show I was wrong about a damn thing. So why quote it in the first place. He has never posted a birth certificate on the internet. So you lied about that. And now you’ve quoted something proving that you knew that you lied.

    A certificate of live birth would be evidence that he DIDN’T get born in any Hawaiian hospital. But the Kenyan wasn’t even able to come up with that. So he posted a photo-shopped fake certificate.

  31. graemebird Says:

    Here. I’ll make the quote now:

    In most states, this document was, and still is, entitled a “Certificate of Live Birth”. [3][4]

    You see you knew that he had not posted a birth certificate ever. It proves that you were lying all along.

  32. graemebird Says:

    So have we got it straight now that he has never posted a birth certificate and that his birth certificate is in fact under seal?

    Is that understood now or are you going to keep lying about it?

    Since when has parsing the words of volunteer socialists on Wiki ever been evidence for anything at all?

  33. JohnZ Says:

    Turkey, your fevered mind is all over the place. You need to focus.

    Is what we in Australia call a “Birth Certificate” called a “Certificate of live birth” in most American states?

    Yes or no?

  34. graemebird Says:

    No its not.

    You have a birth certificate. Which is a long form birth certificate. And you have a certificate of live birth that the Hawaiians (only a recent addition to the Union in 1961) would give to kids who had not been born in a hospital.

    So no thats wrong. And the wiki article isn’t evidence for anything. Its an article thats basically locked for discussion.

    Now the thing is this. Obama has published NEITHER. He would have been able to get a certificate of live birth if his parents had taken the little baby along to get one. But it appears that they may not even have done THAT. Because he has published NEITHER.

  35. Fyodor Says:

    Excellent work, JZ. You got him up to a “7” on his first barrage.

    Turkey, admit you’re lying. We all know you are.

    In order to prove your case, you need to produce EVIDENCE. Now produce it or admit you’re lying.

  36. graemebird Says:

    The certificate of live birth is a Hawaiian thing. It was for the case of a lot of native kids who hadn’t gotten other registration at birth. In practice what it was for was kids who weren’t born in hospitals.

    The wiki is lying here. And you can see that when you go to their discussion page. They remind you dictatorially THAT YOU MUST ASSUME GOOD FAITH. So this is where the wiki socialists are lying and cutting out anyone who points this out to them.

    The Americans only think in terms of birth certificates. Long form and short form birth certificates. This certificate of live birth thing is an Hawaiian feature that has caught them all be surprise.

    All the Americans know this. Because if they want to get their kids into little league they have to show their birth certificate. If they look like a Mexican and they are put in jail for being a suspected wetback they have to come up with their birth certificate.

    Nobody talks about certificates of live birth. Which is a Hawaiian phenomenon.

  37. graemebird Says:

    No no Fyodor. It was JohnZ who was lying. He claimed that Obama had published his birth certificate. This was a lie. And he’s proven that he was lying.

    Obama published a obviously photo-shopped fake certificate of live birth. He doesn’t appear to have an original. But no birth certificate has ever been published. Rather the Hawaiian authorities have placed his birth certificate under seal.

    Are we all clear on that now.

    Also the certificate of live birth was an Hawaiian phenomenon. Its in no way a “most States” phenomenon. Wiki is making it up. And no doubt Z has gotten referred there by some outfit like “fight-the-smears”

  38. graemebird Says:

    http://conservativepolitics.today.com/2008/06/25/proven-barack-obama-presented-forged-certificate-of-live-birth/

  39. graemebird Says:

    Here is a very clear and easy to understand explanation as to why everyone knows that this forged certificate of live birth is a completely obvious fake.

  40. graemebird Says:

    Here is the confession from the fellow who did the forgery. Notice that he is a public servant. So he would have not thought he was doing anything wrong and is probably still very proud of himself.

    http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12956.htm

  41. Fyodor Says:

    Produce the EVIDENCE, fella.

  42. graemebird Says:

    I did.

  43. DH Says:

    He doesn’t have any.

    We, however, have plenty of evidence that the head residing under Birdy’s tin-foil hat is a common-sense, logic, and fact-free zone.

    I think we can also add the Republican Party to the list of conspirators.

  44. Fyodor Says:

    The EVIDENCE for your delusion that Obama was born other than where he states.

    THAT EVIDENCE, Turkey.

  45. DH Says:

    Let’s have a look to see what leading American hard-core righties have to say about the Birthers:

    Michael Medved – “crazy, nutburger, demagogue, money-hungry, exploitative, irresponsible, filthy conservative imposters” who are “the worst enemy of the conservative movement.”

    “It makes us look weird. It makes us look crazy. It makes us look demented. It makes us look sick, troubled, and not suitable for civilized company.”

    Michelle Malkin – “The plain truth will never mollify a Truther. There’s always a convoluted excuse – some inconsequential discrepancy to seize on, some photographic ‘evidence’ to magnify into a blur of meaningless pixels that will rationalize irrationality.

    A dangerously large segment of the birth certificate hunters have lurched into rabid Truther territory. ”

    World Net Daily – “A separate WND investigation into Obama’s birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document to be authentic. The investigation also revealed methods used by some of the bloggers to determine the document was fake involved forgeries, in that a few bloggers added text and images to the certificate scan that weren’t originally there.”

    Case closed. It’s time the men in white coats took Birdy away.

  46. graemebird Says:

    You’ve just got a hodge-podge of nothing there fella. Totally out of context nothing.

    How about trying some evidence hey you dumb shit?

    What about evidence you fuckwit?

    I mean look at you. You are so ashamed of yourself not having any evidence you keep coming along under different names.

    We know he was born in Kenya. Hence he is a usurper. End of story.

  47. graemebird Says:

    Find some evidence you lying cunt?

    How about that?

    Case closed on what basis you stupid cunt?

    On the basis of what?

    So he’s born in Kenya. He’s a proven usurper. And you reckon the case is closed ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE!!!!!

    See you are just a stupid cunt Cambria.

    You always were and always will be.

  48. graemebird Says:

    So what was that evidence again?

    You don’t have any.

    He’s born in Kenya. So the case IS closed. In the totally other direction. You fucked up in just the same way on global warming. You are a fucking moron mate.

  49. graemebird Says:

    He is born in Kenya. And you reckon the case is closed in the other direction.

  50. graemebird Says:

    OK. Lets have that evidence that he was born anywhere else but Kenya.

  51. graemebird Says:

    You stupid cunts don’t even know what evidence is do you? A hodge podge of quotes evidence for what? For a hodge-podge of untraceable quotes. You are a fuckwit fatty. Just a fucking dummy.

  52. graemebird Says:

    He’s a usurper. Move on you stupid cunts. Its proven. At least get the easy stuff right. If we wasn’t a usurper you would have some evidence. This is global warming all over again.

  53. graemebird Says:

    There must be some advantages you guys are seeing to having a Marxist fraud in the most powerful position in the world.

    What are they in your view?

  54. DH Says:

    According to Birdy, even Michelle Malkin is now some foaming at the mouth leftist.

  55. graemebird Says:

    You don’t have any evidence you fat cunt.

    Find some fucking evidence. You are a moron you useless fat cunt. It would be alright if you had Michelle coming good with some evidence that he was born in Hawaii. But you don’t even have that.

    This side of the argument is an embarrassment. Since you have no real evidence we get this embarrassing pseudo-evidence crap. You are a moron fatty. You are like this in every single subject.

  56. graemebird Says:

    What advantages are there in having a marxist usurper in office? If you are supporting him you must find some advantages to that.

  57. DH Says:

    In other words even Michelle Malkin thinks your nuts.

  58. DH Says:

    “What advantages are there in having a marxist usurper in office? ” Beats me. He’s neither a marxist nor a usurper.

  59. graemebird Says:

    You cannot even trace the quote. And its not evidence for anything at all.

    Don’t you know what evidence is you stupid fat cunt?

  60. 1554 Says:

    Bird, the only usurper is you. You were kindly asked not to participate in this thread while we figured out which medical treatment you required. Yet you still persisted and muscled your way in.

    You presence is not required on this thread.

    So far the only decent treatment we have found is a lobotomy. It will get you home quicker than other treatments.

  61. graemebird Says:

    He’s a marxist and a proven usurper.

    So what are the advantages of having a marxist usurper in office?

    I mean when he collapses the dollar is that a good thing? Because we finally get gold and silver money?

  62. graemebird Says:

    Look the lot of you keep on asserting that he isn’t a usurper. When this is a proven fact.

    Surely you must think “well I can find some evidence for this”

    Well where is it?

    So now are you claiming that untraceable quotes from Michelle constitute evidence for anything at all? Are we claiming a new infallibility rule, not for the Pope but for Michelle Malkin?

    Are you in fact claiming that you don’t need evidence since Michelle is infallible and omniscient?

  63. graemebird Says:

    You are not coming up with anything.

    So what are the advantages of having a Marxist Usurper collapsing the currency and bringing in compulsory servitude?

  64. DH Says:

    “… dangerously large segment of the birth certificate hunters have lurched into rabid Truther territory. The most prominent crusader against Obama’s American citizenship claim, lawyer Philip Berg (who, not coincidentally, is also a prominent 9/11 Truther), disputes that Obama was born in Hawaii and claims that Obama’s paternal grandmother told him she saw Obama born in Kenya.

    “Berg and his supporters further assert that the “Certification of Live Birth” produced by Obama was altered or forged. They claim that the contemporaneous birth announcement in a Hawaii newspaper of Obama’s birth is insufficient evidence that he was born there. (Did a fortune-teller place it in the paper knowing he would run for president?). And they accuse anyone who disagrees with them of being part and parcel of the grand plan to install Emperor Obama and usurp the rule of law.

    “I believe Trig was born to Sarah Palin. I believe Barack Obama was born in Hawaii on U.S. soil. I believe fire can melt steel and that bin Laden’s jihadi crew – not Bush and Cheney – perpetrated mass murder on 9/11. What kind of kooky conspiracist does that make me?”

    http://michellemalkin.com/2008/12/05/truthers-to-the-left-of-me-truthers-to-the-right/

  65. 1554 Says:

    Bird:
    Will you please stop interjecting on this thread. We’re trying to help here and you interjections simply get in the way of us figuring out what is the best course of treatment going forward.

    If you’re going interfere you could at least try and help in the direction of treatment. Do you have any objection to a partial lobotomy?

  66. graemebird Says:

    Right so no evidence fatty. You are a fucking moron mate.

  67. graemebird Says:

    Oh right. And another contribution from the idiot Cambria. And no evidence there either.

  68. graemebird Says:

    So lets summarise your collective case. NOTHING. You don’t have a case. You have Jay Mckinnons forgery and thats it.

    What a bunch of fucking dummies you are.

  69. David Duke Says:

    Mr Bird

    Keep on fighting the good fight.

    We can’t let a nigger like Barack lord it over the rest of us.

  70. Grand Wizard of Atlanta Chapter of Ku Klux Klan Says:

    Hear hear! Mr Duke

    The South shall rise again

  71. KKK Bird Says:

    Bird just doesn’t like black people. It’s a color thing.

  72. graemebird Says:

    Here is another forgery that the Daily Kos knocked up just prior to knocking up the first Obama forgery. This is a visual joke. McKinnon “openda” just tosses it into the discussion.

    Notice the name is actually High… I…. be ….. a ….. forgery. That is to say Haye I. B. Ahphorgerie. But its evident that he’s already working on his forgery for Obama. Because he’s knocked up the joke forgery with the 7.24PM birthday as well as the Oahu island of birth.

  73. DH Says:

    Makes you wonder how Obama ever got a US passport.

  74. graemebird Says:

    He’s never had one. He went to Pakistan on either an Indonesian or Kenyan passport. When he flew to Germany it was not on any sort of commercial airline. So I don’t think anyone knows how he pulled that one off.

  75. graemebird Says:

    Where is your evidence that he’s ever had an American passport?

  76. Grand Wizard of Atlanta Chapter of Ku Klux Klan Says:

    When he flew to Germany it was not on any sort of commercial airline. So I don’t think anyone knows how he pulled that one off.

    The AntiChrist would be able to fly, Mr Bird.

    Congratulations for your work helping the White Man.

  77. Grand Wizard of Atlanta Chapter of Ku Klux Klan Says:

    Mr Bird

    Do you live in the US? Shall I send you a membership form?

  78. graemebird Says:

    So in fact you’ve got no evidence that he’s ever had an American passport right?

    When he went to Pakistan Americans were not allowed there. So he traveled on a non-American passport. I think that fight the smears actually admits to that one.

  79. graemebird Says:

    DH. Where is that evidence that Obama ever had a US passport?

  80. DH Says:

    “So in fact you’ve got no evidence that he’s ever had an American passport right?”

    How odd then that the State Department admitted last year that his passport files had been accessed without authorisation.

  81. graemebird Says:

    His AMERICAN passport files hey? You got a link for that champ?

  82. DH Says:

    You just make shit up don’t you Graeme?

    “State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Obama’s files had been viewed three times by contractors working for the agency starting in January.

    The department hires contractors to design, build and maintain their systems and help employees with searches.

    One of the contractors who viewed Obama’s file also looked at the file of McCain, the probable Republican presidential nominee.

    Two contractors were fired and a third disciplined after they accessed Obama’s file, McCormack said.

    “We are reviewing our options with that person and his employment status,” McCormack said. Watch McCormack’s explanation »

    In Clinton’s case, a trainee accessed her files in 2007.

    McCormack said two of the contractors in the Obama case were “low-level” personnel and the other was in a mid-level position with no management role.

    McCormack said senior management at the State Department was not aware of the incidents until Thursday afternoon. The breaches involving Obama’s file occurred January 9, February 21 and March 14.”

    http://us.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/21/obama.passport/index.html

  83. KKK Bird Says:

    The turkey thinks that Obama made it to prez by lying, but is traveling under another passport because he wouldn’t get away with the lie at the US passport office.

    This is getting stupider than I thought possible.

  84. graemebird Says:

    Right. So they accessed his files three times. So what exactly does that prove? Are we saying that all passports are kept with the State department is that right? Perhaps he was being investigated.

  85. graemebird Says:

    The fact is he used to travel under other passports. DH’s question now appears to be an intelligent one. That is to say how did he get an American passport in the first place if indeed he has one.

  86. DH Says:

    No Graeme, you claimed he has never held a US passport. Your exact words: “He’s never had one. ”

    “Right. So they accessed his files three times. So what exactly does that prove?”

    It proves he has a US passport, contrary to your earlier assertion which is disproved.

    Epic fail.

  87. graemebird Says:

    Well it does look like he has had an American passport. And so one wonders how he managed to get one. So its a legitimate question. Since its hard to know if he got his American citizenship back when he came back from Indonesia.

  88. graemebird Says:

    What is disproved fatty? He needs more than an American passport to be eligible for the Presidency.

  89. KKK Bird Says:

    Well it does look like he has had an American passport. And so one wonders how he managed to get one. So its a legitimate question.

    Gee let me think… ummm you obtain an American passport if you’re err an American citizen?

    You bonehead, Bird.

  90. JohnZ Says:

    Good work DH.

    Turkey, you just made that “never had a passport” bullshit up, didn’t you?

    You just lied outright and DH busted you. Got that? YOU WERE BUSTED FOR LYING.

  91. graemebird Says:

    Well it does appear that he managed to get a passport somehow. That hardly makes him a natural born citizen.

  92. graemebird Says:

    Its interesting that the people who took a look at his passport records went ahead and took two more looks at it. Thats pretty interesting.

  93. DH Says:

    “Well it does look like he has had an American passport. And so one wonders how he managed to get one. ”

    As part of the primary identification for the issue of a new US passport, applicants need to provide one of the following:

    a) Certified birth certificate issued by the city, county or state*
    b) Consular Report of Birth Abroad or Certification of Birth
    c) Naturalization Certificate
    d) Certificate of Citizenship

    (*A certified birth certificate has a registrar’s raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar’s signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar’s office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes. )

    Items b, c, and d do not exist, hence he had to present a valid birth certificate.

  94. graemebird Says:

    Right. So he must have shown some of these documents to someone some time or other. Or he would have to have shown them fakes. Either way he ought to have come good with this information one more time.

  95. JohnZ Says:

    OK. So we’ve established

    a) That Barrack has an American passport
    b) That Barrack has a birth certificate which looks real enough to fool the passport office.
    c) That Graeme makes up lies as he goes along.

    Still reckon he was born in Kenya, turkey?

  96. graemebird Says:

    We already knew he had a birth certificate you dummy. Its currently under seal in Hawaii.

    So what you’ve established is simply that he has an American passport. Thats it.

  97. graemebird Says:

    Of course he was born in Kenya. What is your reasoning here Z you idiot? He’s got an American passport. We already knew that he had a birth certificate under seal in Hawaii. Christ you are a fucking moron Z.

  98. graemebird Says:

    Whats your reasoning Z you fucking moron?

  99. graemebird Says:

    What a fucking moron you are Z. What an idiot.

  100. 1554 Says:

    Exactly DH.

    You are required to show a copy of the original birth certificate when apply for a US passport. It’s actually quite intricate.

    Why the fuck are we having this conversation? This thread ought to be about the sort of treatment Bird should be receiving.

  101. graemebird Says:

    So we knew that he had a birth certificate under seal in Hawaii. We already knew that you fucking moron. And now we know that he managed to get a passport somewhere along the line.

    And that means, in your view, that he was born in ….. NewZealand, Pakistan, what? Where?

    You see you are a fucking moron Z.

  102. graemebird Says:

    What is your fucking point Cambria you dumb shit. You are so fucking dumb I want to break your nose and throw up on you. what a fucking idiot you are.

    WE ALREADY KNEW HE HAD A BIRTH CERTIFICATE YOU FUCKING STUPID BOOTNIGGER CUNT!!!!!!!!

    What was your point Cambria you fucking cunt!!!!!!!!

    You are a fucking cunt moron.

    What was your point.

    HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS OFFICIALLY UNDER SEAL IN HAWAII YOU STUPID WOG CUNT.

    You got that now you dummy? Or is that just a little bit too difficult for you?

  103. graemebird Says:

    What was your point Cambria you fucking moron.

    Fuck off Cambria. You are just a traitor. Just a cunt.

  104. graemebird Says:

    Does everyone now understand that he has a birth certificate under seal in Hawaii?

    Or is somebody not up to speed on that. You you wog cunt Cambria. Put your hand up and ask a question if you are still to dim-witted to understand that part of the story.

  105. graemebird Says:

    So summarise your evidence people. He has an American passport. As do a lot of people not natural born citizens.

    The certificate that his crowd have up on his blog is a fakeup by one Jay McKinnon. And it would not prove a thing were it real. But its a fake. And it would not prove anything were it real. And since its a fake and would prove nothing were it real then itsnot relevant. I hope thats not too complicated for boot-nigger cunt traitors or indeed for leftists.

    And the rest of his documents are off-limits.

    So I’m not seeing a case in any of this. Can any of the rest of you find a case within this business.

    You see the situation has moved on. Everyone knows he’s a usurper. Some people like it that way is all.

  106. graemebird Says:

    Its just incredible what a dumb cunt Cambria is. You’ve got to hand it to him. Constantly fucking things up. Even Homer is more coherent and with it then this stupid cunt.

  107. JohnZ Says:

    Does everyone now understand that he has a birth certificate under seal in Hawaii?

    Last time I checked, A is A, not B. Hawaii is Hawaii, not Kenya.

    The birth certificate is in Hawaii because he was born there. A is A.

  108. graemebird Says:

    That doesn’t follow at all.

  109. DH Says:

    So, Graeme has acknowledged that Obama has a US birth certificate, meaning he was born in the US. Yet curiously Graeme still insists that the president was also born in Kenya.

    Nothing unusual for someone who also claims that:

    1) Obama’s mother is dead, but is also strangely still alive, and
    2) Obama murdered his grandmother. Yet, curiously, she is also still alive.

    But Graeme has put forward some pretty compelling evidence for these seemingly mutually contradictory propositions. It can be summarised as:

    a) What a fucking moron you are Z. What an idiot.
    b) What a bunch of fucking dummies you are.
    c) You are a degenerate.
    d) Cambria you dim bulb.
    e) You fucking useless cunt, and
    f) So you are just a fucking moron mate.

  110. graemebird Says:

    Its known and admitted by fight the smears that he had British Citizenship at birth. They needed to say that since they had to explain how he went to Pakistan in 1980. But it does not follow that if you brought a little baby, just a few days old, back from Kenya, that you wouldn’t have a long-form birth certificate in the vault in Hawaii, your Mother being an American.

  111. graemebird Says:

    By the way, that he father was British at birth would disqualify him outright right there.

  112. JohnZ Says:

    Its known and admitted by fight the smears that he had British Citizenship at birth.

    You got a link for that champ?

  113. graemebird Says:

    I checked and they must have buried that one. I put in Pakistan in their search engine. And they have links to newspaper articles and not the original story they tried on. So that admission probably wasn’t working for them.

  114. Genghis Sun Says:

    yakkity yakkity yakkity yak

    just come up with the evidence you fat fuck

  115. JohnZ Says:

    Right. Most likely you lied again. Have you no shame turkey?

  116. DH Says:

    The British citizenship nonsense has already been thrown out by the Supreme Court:

    “The Supreme Court this morning unceremoniously declined to hear an emergency appeal from a man who claimed President-elect Barack Obama is not qualified for the presidency because he is not a “natural-born” citizen.

    “The court without comment declined to hear ‘Donofrio v. Wells,’ a suit that had attempted to keep Obama off the New Jersey ballot. Leo Donofrio of East Brunswick had claimed Obama had dual nationality at birth, because of his Kansas-born mother and his Kenyan-born father, who was a British subject at the time.”

  117. graemebird Says:

    They didn’t hear the case. And they didn’t judge on whether he was a
    British Citizen. So you are talking rubbish here. Also I’ve found out that you don’t need a birth certificate to get a US Passport.

  118. Mark Hill Says:

    DH’s post on March 30, 2009 at 12:26 am, says it all. Even the most sensationalist of right wing US commentators say the allegations are based on forgeries and the loonies make them look bad.

    Bird will accept forgeries as proof. The conspiracy theory is that these nutters are using forged material to try and unseat a legitiamte Head of State and Bird backs them 100%.

    I am surprised that US Congress hasn’t declared you a legitimate target of marque and reprisal for your external attempts to support seditious US citizens masquerading as patriots.

  119. graemebird Says:

    Ten minutes into this fourth part of a ten part lecture.

    “… And you don’t need a social security number to get a passport….. You don’t even need a birth certificate if you have other hospital certifications or affidavits of live birth ……”

    He’s here explaining the difference between a sovereign state citizen and a US citizen which are not the same thing.

    This video from back in 1995 with obviously no knowledge of the current controversy. So it appears that for historical reasons its not hard to get a US passport. Much harder to prove absolutely that you are a citizen rather than to provide enough evidence for a passport which is not all that stringent a difficulty over there as it is with us.

  120. Mark Hill Says:

    Actually Pal, you are an external security threat and not a member of a legitimate standing army.

    Legally, you know where you stand – before a military tribunal or without the right to habeas corpus.

    You should be put in Gitmo for your activities as an agitator.

  121. graemebird Says:

    Mark. You don’t even know what evidence is. You are A stupid cunt. This is just the same non-evidence that you thought was evidence in your multiplier failure. The opinions of conservatives are not evidence you idiot.

    Only evidence is evidence. Not foolish quotes from good conservatives that just happen to be ignorant about the matter at hand. You are a fuckwit. You are not up to this discussion until you learn the distinction between evidence and pseudo-evidence.

  122. graemebird Says:

    Fuck you people are morons. Its just pisses me off that we’ve got thousands of fucking dimwits like you people out there. Just when you think that no-one can be more stupid then Cambria up comes Mark with his total non-understanding of what constitutes evidence.

    What a complete dunderhead you are Mark. What a fuckwit.

  123. 1554 Says:

    Bird:

    Seriously keep going like that and you could end up becoming a threat to the republic.

    I’m not suggesting a conspiracy theory here, however if you see black helicopters above your home they could be legit this time. The FBI and CIA could have you up on inciting violence against the US prez and find yourself in GITMO or it’s new equivalent.

    And you know what, Bird… you wouldn’t find an ounce of support for your plight on any Ozblog. No one would be canvassing for your release. In fact even the most die hard civil libertarians and lefties that agitated for Hicks’ release would support your detainment.

  124. 1554 Says:

    You should be put in Gitmo for your activities as an agitator.

    Exactly. i would hazard to guess that almost every blog in the country would support the idea of you being gitmo’ed for the rest of your friggen life.

  125. graemebird Says:

    No no you fuckwit. Obama is a threat to the Republic. This is just about you guys being dumb cunts.

    Now I admit that I was a bit uneasy about this passport business. Because as you would know here its pretty hard to get a passport. But this hasn’t come up in discussions on the American scene because getting a passport, for historical reasons, well it turns out that this is not such a big deal. I suspect that getting a green card would be harder.

    Because as I just showed, from a clearly impartial observer, speaking as he was in 1995, that you don’t need a social security number to get a US passport. Whereas you’d need that for a green card. So we see that this matter is not how we Australians would think it. So its not the trump card that DH thought it was, quite reasonably for once.

    I was surprised that he had a passport since I didn’t know the lack of stringency in the matter until these last couple of hours.

  126. DH Says:

    “They didn’t hear the case. And they didn’t judge on whether he was a
    British Citizen. ”

    They didn’t hear the case, Graeme, because the case was crap and the court has better things to do with its time.

    Now, as we all know, Bird relies heavily on reports that Obama’s grandmother said he was born in Kenya. Unfortunately, he can’t even get that straight. His grandmother ACTUALLY said he was born in Hawaii.

    This from the rabidly left-wing Economist reporting on the story:

    “An Anabaptist minister named Ron McRae tried some detective work to prove that Mr Obama’s African relatives were hiding the truth about their favourite son, and on October 16th he called the Obama household in Kenya to get his 86-year-old paternal step-grandmother, Sarah, to say she was there when Mr Obama was born.

    Mr McRae has signed onto the most famous Obama citizenship lawsuit, filed by troubled Pennsylvania lawyer Philip Berg (who twiced sued President Bush for his “role” in the 9/11 attacks), and given the court a partial transcript of a conversation wherein a translator says Mrs Obama was “present” when the president-elect was born. Ill-advisedly, Mr McRae then made the whole tape available… in which it’s clear that Sarah Obama’s translator, Vitalis Akech Ogombe, misunderstood the way Mr McRae phrased the question. When Mr McRae rephrases it, hilarity ensues.

    MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombassa?

    OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombassa. He was born in America.

    MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

    OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombassa.

    MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

    OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

    That’s from a conversation cited in a lawsuit that aims to prove Mr Obama was not born in America.”

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/11/born_under_a_bad_sign.cfm

    Bird, you’ve got nothing.

  127. 1554 Says:

    Bird

    Stfu as you know fucking shit all about nothing.

    At one stage, you could simply call the Dept. of Soc Security and obtain a Social security number.

    Christ , you’re an idiot. You’re as stupid as Homer.

  128. graemebird Says:

    They didn’t hear the case so they didn’t judge on the case and so it doesn’t count. Stop being a dumb cunt DH.

    You don’t know WHY they didn’t hear the case. When asked, one of them didn’t know anything about the case.

  129. graemebird Says:

    No you are talking shit Cambria. You are just talking nonsense.

  130. Mark Hill Says:

    Why as a naturalised Australian, formerly of New Zealand, do you have an interest in unseating the legitimate US Head of State, based on poorly forged evidence, in the name of defending Australian interests from the PRC?

    Now, there’s a conspiracy.

    Are you on the payroll of ASEAN?

  131. 1554 Says:

    They did “hear” the case, you nimrod. They threw it out on summary judgement which means the heard the initial arguments realized it was a piole of shit and threw it out of court.

    That’s what happens with worthless cases that don’t have any merit.

    Yes I do know what I’m talking about , you nimrod. Prior to the mid 90’s a Soc Sec number was he easiest thing to obtain. You simply just called in and were automatically given one.

  132. 1554 Says:

    They did “hear” the case, you nimrod. They threw it out on summary judgment which means the heard the initial arguments realized it was a pile of shit and threw it out of court.

    That’s what happens with worthless cases that don’t have any merit.

    Yes I do know what I’m talking about , you nimrod. Prior to the mid 90’s a Soc Sec number was he easiest thing to obtain. You simply just called in and were automatically given one.

  133. 1554 Says:

    Mark

    You shouldn’t assume, Bird is a NZ’er. Where’s the evidence? His birth certificate? By Bird’s own standards that no longer works.

  134. graemebird Says:

    They threw out the case they didn’t hear it. We don’t know if they heard the summary judgements at all. One case which was not heard, when a judge was asked about it he was totally ignorant of it. So you don’t know shit about what they did or didn’t hear. A lot of these cases appear to be gate-keeped prior to getting to the judges who afterall have a big case load.

    One doesn’t want to accuse the judges of cowardice without knowing what actually happened. Don’t pretend you can see behind walls Cambria, because far from having special powers you are actually a stupid cunt.

  135. Genghis Sun Says:

    hey you fat fuck

    when are you going to produce your birth certificate?

    every day of delay increases suspicion of your activities and lineage

  136. graemebird Says:

    Like everyone else I can produce my birth certificate on about 10 minutes notice. But Obama cannot. Because his usurpation would then become known to more people. And possibly to enough people to have him taken away in chains. Which is the only fitting end to this story.

  137. Mark Hill Says:

    Graeme,

    You only debuted on the blogosphere when Saddam was captured and he was nearing his trial/execution.

    Produce your birth certificate or we can confirm you as a Ba’athist agent agitating American stability, peace and prosperity.

    You have no evidence against this. It must be true.

  138. 1554 Says:

    On March 5, 2009, the Honorable Judge James Robertson of the United States District for the District of Columbia entered a Memorandum Opinion dismissing yet another case challenging President Obama’s citizenship.

    The Plaintiff in the case is Gregory S. Hollister, a retired Air Force colonel for ten years. He was represented by D.C. attorney John D. Hemenway, but papers were electronically filed with the court by none other than Pennsylvania attorney Philip J. Berg, and Arizona attorney Lawrence J. Joyce, who also signed case documents. Berg, neither Joyce, were given permission by the court to have their out-of-state Bar licenses recognized by the District of Columbia Court. Hemenway, however, is a member of the Bar of the District of Columbia.

    Judge Robertson’s five page opinion is consistent with other judicial decisions dismissing these cases finding them “legally frivolous.” However, Judge Robertson took it a step further to let attorney Philip J. Berg know that the courts will no longer waste their time with Berg’s conspiracy theory without applying appropriate sanctions.

    On March 24, 2009, the Honorable Judge James Robertson entered order on the show cause, and found attorney John D. Hemenway in violation of federal rule.

    so the judge not only threw the stupid fucking case out of court he reprimanded the lawyer for wasting the courts time as “legally frivolous” that basically rests on a conspiracy theory.

    Of course Bird picks up the mantel from where they left off.

    In other words the judge has told the lawyers bringing these cases to court that they risk their law licenses and or reprimand.

    Of course Bird sees this as another conspiracy theory.

    You’re right Bird the courts are no longer even going to the extent of summary judgment, as the lower US courts have basically been instructed by a higher US court to whack any stupid lawyer bringing such a case and wasting everyone’s fucking time.

    Keep it going and I’ll pay for your one way tick to GITMO on the prison plane.

    Now stfu , you lunatic.

  139. graemebird Says:

    Lets see his five page opinion. Because it is Roberts who is the gutless piece of shit who swore the usurper in. But notice he knew he was doing the wrong thing. Because he could not get the words out properly.

  140. 1554 Says:

    Bird, you stupid goose says:

    Lets see his five page opinion. Because it is Roberts who is the gutless piece of shit who swore the usurper in.

    Judge Robertson IS NOT Chief justice Roberts.

  141. Mark Hill Says:

    You are an idiot Graeme. Pure fucking idiocy from your quarter on that call to jump the gun.

    Note – you are not a Professor of Physics. Prof. G. A. Bird notes that you and he are not the same on his website.

  142. 1554 Says:

    the poor guy must be beside himself. Can you imagine him having to fend off questions if our version of Bird is indeed the professor.

  143. graemebird Says:

    Oh right. Well yes then I must give the chief justice a second chance. Yeah Robertson is one of those idiot left-wingers. So why on earth you are putting him up as an authority I don’t know.

    It doesn’t mean anything Cambria. If Robertson or the other leftists make some sort of claim its meaningless. So I’m glad that it wasn’t the Chief Justice fucking up in this case.

    No don’t link his five-page judgement because it isn’t relevant.

  144. 1554 Says:

    Bird you fucking moron… here’s the 5 page memo from the judge you asked for.

    He mentions that an earlier case a judge had listened to the case, did a great deal of scholarly work and found there was basis to the claim. Robertson could not be more scathing of this claim and now suggests that Berg who is really behind the case needs to show reason why he shouldn’t compensate the prez;s lawyer which in a US court is about as bad as it get.

    Here, you moron, here;s the 5 page memo.

  145. DH Says:

    So in short we have proof that:

    a) Obama produced a valid birth certificate or other official documentation attesting to his US birth in order to obtain a US passport.
    b) Statements form his Kenyan grandmother that Obama was born in Hawaii, not Kenya.
    c) Multiple examples of cases arguing the citizenship question being thrown out of court at every level because they were frivilous, without merit, and produced no evidence worth the name.

    Score: GBCIE – 100; GB: Nil

  146. 1554 Says:

    and to top it off DH, the judge in the most recent opinion has suggested that the plaintiff needs to show cause why the defendant’s (the prez) legal costs shouldn’t be made whole… and that the lawyer ought to be suitably sanctioned for bringing the case in the first place.

    Bird of course runs with the conspiracy theory.

  147. graemebird Says:

    But Cambria its not relevant. Since its Robertson. He’s not an originalist. So he himself is a usurper and an oath-breaker. If its coming from Scalia or Thomas or the other Italian. Or perhaps even the Chief Justice, it has relevance in that order. But none of the other judges are originalist by any stretch of the imagination. So anything he says is just rubbish, idiocy and him making it up as he goes along. Pretty much by his own admission. Since he does not identify as an originalist he’s an anti-judge. He’s not the real deal but an exerciser in usurped power.

  148. 1554 Says:

    Bird, you asked for the opinion and I linked to it. now you find fault with the Judge’s motives. There’s just no quenching a conspiracy theory is there? Everyone’s in on it.

    STFU.

  149. graemebird Says:

    You get something from Scalia and I’ll agree that its worth reading. We knew that Kennedy or Robertson would let us down. It would be interesting to see what Scalia has to say. He’s an actual judge.

  150. 1554 Says:

    IT”S ROBERTS, NOT ROBERTSON, you moron. Roberts is the head of SCOTUS, they’re different people.

    SCOTUS is an appeals court you moron. They won’t hear the case as they have reviewed it and there’s no merit, which is why Berg seems to be court shopping hoping that he’ll find a judge that will hear the case.

    They won’t any longer as the lower courts have been told to not only NOT hear the case but to punish any dickwead lawyer that brings the case forward. That has to be the most scathing instruction I heard for a while.

    In fact it’s actually funny. You of course buy into it.

  151. graemebird Says:

    Look are you saying that Chief Court Justice Roberts has given us a five page summary opinion? Is this your claim?

    In this opinion did he prove where Obama was born?

    Did he do that?

    If he didn’t do that he’s full of shit right?

    So that would be the end of that story.

  152. graemebird Says:

    No it wasn’t Roberts Cambria. This was justice James Robertson. And he in no way proved where Obama was born.

    So what is your point?

    And DH is lying again. Because as I explained you don’t even need to show up with a birth certificate to get a US passport.

    We’d dealt with that point. The requirements for a passport in the US are not particularly stringent.

  153. graemebird Says:

    Now what is your argument? What was your point?

  154. graemebird Says:

    “SCOTUS is an appeals court you moron. They won’t hear the case as they have reviewed it and there’s no merit, which is why Berg seems to be court shopping hoping that he’ll find a judge that will hear the case.”

    You have not shown that they have reviewed the case. You are lying. You showed that the district court reviewed one of the many cases and came up with a wrong verdict.

    What are you talking about. You are just making a cunt of yourself as usual.

  155. graemebird Says:

    Here’s a bit of a summary of the Robertson idiocy:

    Now a couple of quotes from his opinion:

    …..because it has not been proven — to the colonel’s satisfaction — that Mr. Obama is a native-born American citizen,….

    This shows that this idiot judge didn’t even read the stuff presented to him or doesn’t under stand the difference between native-born and natural-born.

    ….The issue of the President’s citizenship was raised,vetted, blogged, texted, twittered, and otherwise massaged by America’s vigilant citizenry during Mr. Obama’s two-year-campaign for the presidency, but this plaintiff wants it resolved by a court…..

    This judge is actually ridiculing a plaintiff for wanting to have a legal issue decided by a court ? In the judges opinion, blogs and public vote decide a Constitutional issue and it is a nuisance to the court to even have to consider it ?

    …That case was the subject of a scholarly opinion by a judge who took Mr. Berg’s claims seriously –- and dismissed them….

    The merits of the case were never heard by Surrick . It was dismissed on lack of standing

    And finally …

    ….Mr. Berg and Lawrence J. Joyce, an attorney who lives in Tucson, Arizona, signed the complaint in this case. (They have been filing electronically although they have not been admitted pro hac vice, see [#10].) They are agents provocateurs

    An agent provocateur is a person employed by the police or other entity to act undercover to entice or provoke another person to commit an illegal act. He is suggesting that Hollister is committing an illegal act by filing this suit and that Berg encouraged him to do so. Plus the other disparaging remarks he made about Hollister not being the real plaintiff, that it was really Berg. Those are outrageous ( and if not done in a court opinion – libelous ) allegations for a public official, let alone a judge- to make about a party in a lawsuit.This judge should be removed from the bench for such biasness. In the least, if any other cases come up before him on this issue, he should be immediately challanged to be removed from the case.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    What was your point dummy? You haven’t shown that Scotus has reviewed any of these cases. And when Scalia was asked about one of them he had no knowledge of it.

    The above was reviewed at district court level. And in no way by a competent judge.

    Nor did the judge prove where Obama was born in his dismissal.

  156. Mark Hill Says:

    Graeme,

    99.99% of society, including SCOTUS, think you and your agitator friends are loonies.

    Yes, you are. The nurses will never over the keys of the asylum to the guys who think they are Napoleon, Michael Jackson or John of Gaunt.

  157. 1554 Says:

    No it wasn’t Roberts Cambria. This was justice James Robertson. And he in no way proved where Obama was born.

    So what is your point?

    Fuck you’re a dopey prick. I told you twice that you were confusing Roberts with Robertson. Now you have the hide to come up with that stupid comment.

    Look you moron, the judge threw the case outta court because he’d had enough and so has the entire US legal system.

  158. 1554 Says:

    Do you understand what Scotus does, you moron. They are an appeals court. There’s no reason for them to hear such a case unless it comes to them on appeal. Now STFU.

  159. graemebird Says:

    When you told me the first time you were right. But when you told me the second time it was you that was confused.

    And by being right you have screwed up your own case. Because you don’t have an example of Scotus throwing a case out after reviewing that case carefully.

    So you didn’t have a point in the first place. If you could have shown Scalia carefully reviewing the case and THEN throwing it out you might have a point. But you didn’t show that.

    So you don’t have a point.

    You see you’ve lost track you stupid old man. Robertson didn’t manage to come forth with evidence that Obama wasn’t born in a Kenyan hospital overlooking the Indian Ocean.

  160. 1554 Says:

    Why the fuck would Scalia have to be the person who reviews the case you fucking moron?

    How can anyone choose who reviews the case? Courts systems don’t work like that, doofus.

    Robertson doesn’t need to come up with any evidence, you jerkoff. He’s the fucking judge that adjudicates on the evidence before him. He saw it was a stupid case that had been adequately dealt with by another court and threw it out. Case closed, you moron.

  161. the-grafiti-guy Says:

    Birdy,

    You manage to make loons such as Michelle Malkin, David Horrowitz or the World Net Daily crew look sane and composed.

    That is quite a performance.

    You are nuts. (And a coward for deleting comments on your blog.)

  162. 1554 Says:

    You stupid, stupid fat head, Bird.

  163. the-grafiti-guy Says:

    For those still interested in arguing with our Birdy (I only have the strength to kick him in the groin), here is a source of information which might help in your quest 🙂

    http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/

  164. the-grafiti-guy Says:

    And for those who are specifically interested in arguing Birdy’s last opus

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/03/29/an-absolutely-pathetic-forgery/

    here’s the link to a rebuttal of this nonsense.

    http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/235-Bad-Science-How-Not-To-Do-Image-Analysis-Part-II.html

  165. graemebird Says:

    “Christ, Bird is exasperating. He’s now saying the judge had no evidence. I’m not a lawyer but judges aren’t the people that present evidence, the lawyers do that.

    You just want to throttle him.”

    You and whose army old man. The judge refused to consider any evidence. Rather he blatantly went for “THE EMPEROR DOES TOO HAVE CLOTHES” line of reasoning. If my analysis is wrong find even one example in his summary of valid logical reasoning.

    This is what happens when the societal breakdown accelerates. All values and not just monetary ones are debased.

  166. graemebird Says:

    Anyway. Here is my marvellous new thread:

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/03/30/equal-opportunity-val-doonican-for-president/

  167. birdy_lost-it Says:

    Very entertaining Birdy 🙂

    There are however two major flaws:
    1/ Barack Obama was legitimately elected and hence won’t be dragged away in chains.
    2/ Should he leave office for any other reason, his successor would be … Vice-President Joseph Biden.

    Anyway, thanks for the effort. Keep up the good work moonbat.

  168. graemebird Says:

    No you are lying. He’s broken every rule to get elected. He wasn’t eligible to even enter the competition. As you know, wherein diminished responsibility via brain damage is not pleaded you must be WILLING as well as able to prove eligibility. And Barry can do neither. So he would have the choice of the chains or the straightjacket one supposes. The choice of the bars or the plastic forks and spoons and all that padding.

  169. graemebird Says:

    Notice that the compulsive liar and Obama rent-boy is unable to bring forth a skerrit of evidence for his wild and ridiculous stories.

  170. DH Says:

    Interesting, isn’t it, that now Birdy’s central claim that Obama’s grandmother said he was born in Kenya is demolished he’s now off on another tangent which he also, predictably, gets wrong.

  171. Fyodor Says:

    Produce the EVIDENCE, Turkey, or admit you were lying.

  172. Mark Hill Says:

    Graeme,

    Tom SKERRIT played Cmdr. Michael “Viper” Metcalf in TOP GUN.

    A SKERRICK is in Australian and British English, a very small portion or piece.

    This blog should be called “The re-education web log of Graeme M Bird”.

  173. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    I wouldn’t trust Scalia. He is tight with the Bilderburgers.

    Justice Thomas however appears to be a Righteous Negro. I would trust him to mount a sort of Warren Commission into how this usurper came to power.

  174. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Of course, unlike the Warren Commission the Thomas Commission must not be allowed to be overrun with Communists and idiot leftist fellow travellers who will filibuster the Truth.

    Can you imagine when Justice Thomas in his judicial robes arrives at Mombassa General Hospital and demands in his sultry baritone that the Chief Matron produce the Usurper’s birth certificate!

  175. DH Says:

    “Can you imagine when Justice Thomas in his judicial robes arrives at Mombassa General Hospital and demands in his sultry baritone that the Chief Matron produce the Usurper’s birth certificate!”

    Yes. Hilarity ensues.

  176. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Racist leftist filth.

  177. DH Says:

    “Racist leftist filth.”

    Thanks Ron. Well that was 0.5 of a second of my life I’ll never get back.

  178. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    DH, if I were running the shop and seeking to implement a truly Constitutional State there’s about 40 years of your life you’d never get back.

  179. DH Says:

    Sure Ron. Really, you should stop trying to compensate for your incredibly small dick. It’s embarassing.

  180. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    DH, I can assure you that I do not have any issues in the trousers department. I suggest you take a look closer to home.

  181. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Do you all witness this thread wrecking idiocy from DH? Do you all see what leftists do when they don’t have an argument?

    Utterly unconscionable.

  182. DH Says:

    Sure you don’t Ron. Sure you don’t.

  183. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    You’d probably say the same to Dick Cheney, wouldn’t you. You idiot.

  184. DH Says:

    And you’re a closet homosexual as well? Who knew?

  185. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Pervert.

  186. DH Says:

    *snore*

  187. rph-lost-it Says:

    Hey RPH

    According to one of your latest comments on Birdy’s site,

    “He’s [DH] convinced me Graeme. You really are an idiot.”

    You no longer consider our feathered friend a reliable source.

    What’s your plan? Take his place as Ueber-Moonbat?

    It sure seems so.

    FYI, SCOTUS Justices cannot start commissions on their own.

  188. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    That wasn’t me who said that. Must have been leftist idiot DH impersonating me again.

  189. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    Ok so you are both nuts.

    Perfect 🙂

  190. graemebird Says:

    Right. So after all this carry on we can say that the debate has moved on.

    We know he’s a usurper. Since he is unwilling to prove eligibility and since he was, by unanimous acclamation of older relatives, born in the Provincial General Hospital on the Coastal Road in Mombassa Kenya. There is a total monopoly on this point, as there is with you and me. Everyone older will know which hospital they brought the kid back from. And no-one older has ever claimed it was in Hawaii.

    So we know that he is a lunatic hell-bent on wrecking the US dollar, economy and nation.

    None of you have come up with any advantages with this outcome.

    So how do we get rid of this skank? And stop this idiotic deficit spending that is happening in the US and is being aped here?

  191. Mark Hill Says:

    “Since he is unwilling to prove eligibility and since he was, by unanimous acclamation of older relatives, born in the Provincial General Hospital on the Coastal Road in Mombassa Kenya.”

    Did Bob Dole prove he wasn’t a space monster?

    Ineligible. FAIL.

    “by unanimous acclamation of older relatives, born in the Provincial General Hospital on the Coastal Road in Mombassa ”

    That is just HORSESHIT. You just make this stuff up when you get presented evidence you don’t like, don’t you?

    “So how do we get rid of this skank? And stop this idiotic deficit spending that is happening in the US and is being aped here?”

    Not by electing some bozo like Bush who began this Keynesian madness and has failed to prove he isn’t a Mexican tranny.

  192. graemebird Says:

    Lets have that evidence then Mark.

  193. Mark Hill Says:

    We’ve had the evidence you moron, you are simply in denial.

    On the other hand it has been noted the *evidence* against Obama has been shown to be forgeries by desperate fools.

  194. graemebird Says:

    Lets have that evidence or lets have your retraction you lying cunt.

  195. graemebird Says:

    Well lets have it. One way or another. Lets have that evidence or lets have your retraction you lying cunt.

    Tesitmony by relatives older than Obama.

    Go!!!!

    Valid documentation which demonstrates what it is supposed to

    Go!!!!!

  196. Mark Hill Says:

    Look here you friggen idiot. If you didn’t obfuscate the blog with your disjointed rambling, it would be much easier for you to refer back – it has been noted here that the “evidence” against Obama are shameless forgeries and an attempt to verify these stories ended in an embarrassing FAIL.

    You’re an imbecile. You’re in denial of his relatives evidence. You support these outrageous, lunatic made and backed forgeries and wish to destabilise the American people. You’re a nut from New Zealand who is now an Aussie with an unhealthy obsession with America – and you’re a threat to US security!

    Where is the evidence you aren’t backed by a residual element of the Iraqi Ba’athist Party and you don’t wear red fishnets brazilian cut ladies underwear to bed?

  197. graemebird Says:

    Lets have that evidence or lets have your retraction you lying cunt.

    But first you might have to go back to University for another six years to learn what evidence is.

    Would 12 years at university be enough?

  198. graemebird Says:

    Older relatives all know which hospital a baby is brought back from. This is a monopoly position with Obama as it is with you and me.

    Do you have some contrary testimony which will make the situation competitive.

    Yes or no Mark?

    Yes or no?

    Lets have that evidence or lets have your retraction you lying cunt.

  199. Fyodor Says:

    Let’s have that EVIDENCE that Obama wasn’t born in Hawaii.

    Produce the EVIDENCE, Dobell Doughboy.

  200. graemebird Says:

    You people believe what you want to believe. But I only believe things in accordance with the evidence.

    If you think he’s born in Hawaii lets have the evidence for it.

    Which of his older relatives have testified that this is the case. What documentation do you have that this is the case.

    If you believe that this is the case why do you believe this?

    Lets have that evidence or lets have your retraction you lying cunt.

  201. graemebird Says:

    Lets have that evidence or lets have your retraction you lying cunt.

    I see you are still a believer in the leftist gift of second sight Fyodor.

  202. Fyodor Says:

    EVIDENCE, fella.

    Produce the EVIDENCE for your dopey delusion. If you’re stupid enough to believe wingnut conspiracy theories, YOU PROVIDE THE EVIDENCE.

    Shit or get off the pot, liar.

  203. graemebird Says:

    Right. So none of you have anything at all.

    So we have to assume he was born in the Coast providence hospital Mombassa Kenya. Since no-one has so much as named a second hospital.

  204. Fyodor Says:

    So we have to assume he was born in the Coast providence hospital Mombassa Kenya.

    Prove it. With EVIDENCE.

  205. graemebird Says:

    What is the second hospital you think has been nominated Fyodor.

    Remember that being eligible means being both willing and able to prove eligibility.

    So far you haven’t got willing OR able.

    What other hospital are you thinking of.

    Remembering always that there is never a conflict as to which hospital you bring a baby back from.

  206. graemebird Says:

    The starting point is we know what hospital and country he is born in.

    Now you guys are claiming otherwise.

    But you have no evidence so lets move on.

  207. graemebird Says:

    There is never a difficulty with remembering what hospital a baby is taken home from. This is something there is never a controversy about. And there is no controversy in this case either.

    But you guys are claiming otherwise.

    On what basis?

    Lets have that evidence or lets have your retraction you lying cunt.

  208. Fyodor Says:

    The starting point is we know what hospital and country he is born in.

    Prove it. With EVIDENCE.

  209. graemebird Says:

    Here is what we found out when the matte first broke in October.

    This is not evidence. Just the reporting of it. The point is that the 5 months since nothing has come out in favour of the contrary view. And everything has come out in favour of what is reported hear. Including the testimony of his own grandmother available on tape.

    http://www.catallaxyfiles.com/blog/?p=4462#comment-124502

    The testimony of his grandmother, a nurse assistant of the time, and older relative…. Well this stands until such time as they manufacture some fake evidence from elsewhere. A better fake then that Jay Mckinnon job. But they haven’t even done that.

  210. graemebird Says:

    So the point is we already know he’s a usurper. And the make-believe crowd aren’t even interested in trying to prove otherwise.

  211. Fyodor Says:

    Bullshit is not EVIDENCE. FAIL.

    You are a liar, damned by your own grotesque incompetence.

  212. graemebird Says:

    Sworn evidence by people who were present at his birth constitutes actual evidence Fyodor. So we already know that he’s a usurper.

    Now does anyone have evidence to the contrary.

  213. graemebird Says:

    Lets have that evidence or lets have your retraction you lying cunt.

    Sworn evidence by people present at his birth is in fact evidence Fyodor.

    Really what this is is a contest between make-believe irrationality and science.

    This is the same all the way down the line Fyodor. With your irrational belief in the global warming racket, with your Keynesianism. And with your hatred for evidence in this case also.

    Its really all part of the same leftist superstition.

  214. graemebird Says:

    Once again. One side we have sworn evidence by people who were there when he was born.

    On the other side we have crickets chirping.

    So there is not the least bit of doubt as to where he was born.

  215. graemebird Says:

    Here is some evidence that he is not elgible.

    Evidence coming from the other side is just….. crickets.

  216. graemebird Says:

    Here is the proof here. It IS proof because absolutely NOTHING stands against it. The evidence is in favour of one thesis alone.

  217. Winchester Quartermain Says:

    5 in a row.

    Not even close and no cigar, Fyodor.

  218. Winchester Quartermain Says:

    Your attempts to provoke Mr Bird have merely garnered five pieces of fresh evidence and arguments.

    I shall not even deign to employ the honorific of Mr in addressing you, Fyodor. We saved you Tartars from slaughter in the second World war. It was a mistake.

  219. DH Says:

    Bird debunked:

    “An Anabaptist minister named Ron McRae tried some detective work to prove that Mr Obama’s African relatives were hiding the truth about their favourite son, and on October 16th he called the Obama household in Kenya to get his 86-year-old paternal step-grandmother, Sarah, to say she was there when Mr Obama was born.

    Mr McRae has signed onto the most famous Obama citizenship lawsuit, filed by troubled Pennsylvania lawyer Philip Berg (who twiced sued President Bush for his “role” in the 9/11 attacks), and given the court a partial transcript of a conversation wherein a translator says Mrs Obama was “present” when the president-elect was born. Ill-advisedly, Mr McRae then made the whole tape available… in which it’s clear that Sarah Obama’s translator, Vitalis Akech Ogombe, misunderstood the way Mr McRae phrased the question. When Mr McRae rephrases it, hilarity ensues.

    MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombassa?

    OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombassa. He was born in America.

    MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

    OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombassa.

    MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

    OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

    That’s from a conversation cited in a lawsuit that aims to prove Mr Obama was not born in America.”

    http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2008/11/born_under_a_bad_sign.cfm

  220. DH Says:

    Hey Graeme, have you heard that Frank Zappa song “Jesus Thinks You’re a Jerk”?

  221. graemebird Says:

    Thats all bullshit what you are saying above. Here is the real story.

    http://www.youtube.com/

    No older relative in a position to know has ever claimed that Barack was born in Hawaii.

  222. graemebird Says:

    Hang on. That link didn’t come up.

  223. graemebird Says:

    The above contains the tape of the very incident from which DH is drawing his bullshit account from. You can take the original tape or you can take DH’s bullshit about it. It is true that another grandson of Sarah was there and was trying to insert the falsities into the tape. But he wasn’t there when Barack was born. It was Sarah that was there.

  224. DH Says:

    It wasn’t my bullshit Graeme. It was a factual report from the Economist. His grandmother Sarah said he was born in Hawaii.

  225. graemebird Says:

    It wasn’t a factual report. You got to the tape yourself. The interviewer is there. And Sarah is there. And some other grandson is also there. So its all pretty confused. But the translator clarifies.

    In the case of the economist he’s making like its just two people there. He’s ethnically cleansed out the presence of the grandson.

    So its bullshit. The economist fellow is lying or he doesn’t understand the context that there is four people involved in the conversation.

  226. graemebird Says:

    His grandmother Sarah most definitely did not say he was born in Hawaii. That was her grandson doing the talking. The economist blogger is a bullshitartist.

  227. graemebird Says:

    Affadavit of Reverend Shuhubia

    I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a praty to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:

    I am an ordained minister of gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist church in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.

    It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya. Senator Obama’s grandmother still resides in the village of Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu City. On October 16, 2008 I went to interview Ms. Sarah Obama at her home. Ms. Obama’s home was flooded with people who were celebrating Senator Obama’s success story. Ms. Obama’s home was heavily guarded by Kenya Police. Prior to the interview with Ms. Obama, I took pictures of Ms. Obama, her grandson who was present and other family members.

    During my interview of Sarah Obama, I called Bishop Ron McRae in the United States from my mobile number. I advised Bishop McRae that I was present with Ms. Obmaa in her home, and wished for him to speak with her. Bishop McRae informed me he would call me right back, to avoid the international costs on my personal mobile phone. Bishop McRae subsequently called me back; Bishop McRae requested permission to electronically record his telephone conversation with Ms. Obama, to which I agreed.

    Due to bad telephone connections Bishop McRae had to call me back three (3) times, before we were able to continue our conversation. The telephone interview conducted by Bishop McRase was conducted on loud speaker (speaker phone). during the interview conversation, one of Ms. Obama’s grandsons and myself acted as Swahili translators, and as Bishop McRae talked to and questions Ms. Obama, we wouls translate what Bishop McRae and to Ms. Obama in Swahili, and then we would translate her Swahlil responses to Bishop McRae in English. Ms. Obama can fluirently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write.

    Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied “Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with purported information from American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mrs. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that “No, No, No he was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit “A”.

    I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital to which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barrack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, JR. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barach H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge to immigration if I wanted further information.

    The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.

    I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.

    Signed,

    Kweli Shuhubia
    John 3:30/Philippians 3:19-21,29,30

  228. graemebird Says:

    DH attempting to bullshit people. And he is found out so fast.

  229. graemebird Says:

    So how do we get rid of the Usurper? Thats where the story has moved onto.

  230. DH Says:

    “So how do we get rid of the Usurper? Thats where the story has moved onto.”

    You won’t.

    Shorter Bird: Lifts buttock. Farts.

  231. DH Says:

    Was Malcolm X present at the birth too?

  232. graemebird Says:

    Face it. You have nothing. Where is the evidence for your Hawaii theory

    Not there.

    I can look up and down this thread and its not there.

  233. Genghis Sun Says:

    are you sure you didn’t get that off a Nigerian spammer Graeme?

  234. graemebird Says:

    Lets have the evidence or the retraction fella.

  235. graemebird Says:

    You got some evidence for your Hawaiian theory Jason Soon?

    All these true believers and no-one has the evidence.

  236. Fyodor Says:

    Turkey, your YouTube link has no EVIDENCE that Obama was born outside of the USA. All it has is some bleating blow-hard ALLEGING that Obama wasn’t born in the USA. There is not a single fucking document or first-hand account proving your moronic theory.

    The same applies to your uncritical acceptance of the supposed testimony of this “Kweli Shuhubia”, who likewise has no proof that Obama was born in Kenya.

    That’s not PROOF.

    That’s not EVIDENCE.

    What it is, is EPIC FAIL. For Birdy, every day is April Fool’s.

    You are a liar.

    P.S. Nice one, Winnie. Love your work, baby.

  237. Genghis Sun Says:

    I have testimony from Reverend Washishiloduploronounga Shishishonamubassanorreaniggini

  238. DH Says:

    “OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.”

  239. Winchester Quartermain Says:

    There is no point arguing with these golliwogs and Ivans Mr Bird. If they had understood the value of evidence and scientific inquiry the Industrial Revolution would have graced their shores first rather than those of almighty Albion from whose coat tails they have hung till now.

  240. DH Says:

    “There is no point arguing with these golliwogs and Ivans Mr Bird. ”

    Preciseley, because Bird has lost the arguement and we have won hands down.

  241. 1554 Says:

    My god , he’s still on this. Bird go and see a freaking shrink.

  242. graemebird Says:

    So still no evidence.

    Apparently the testimony of black people is not enough for you.

  243. graemebird Says:

    I won the argument. And your response Cambria you stupid bootnigger cunt is to pretend I didn’t win the argument.

    Here is the testimony again. Unmatched by any evidence in the other direction:

    Affadavit of Reverend Shuhubia

    I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a praty to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:

    I am an ordained minister of gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist church in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.

    It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya. Senator Obama’s grandmother still resides in the village of Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu City. On October 16, 2008 I went to interview Ms. Sarah Obama at her home. Ms. Obama’s home was flooded with people who were celebrating Senator Obama’s success story. Ms. Obama’s home was heavily guarded by Kenya Police. Prior to the interview with Ms. Obama, I took pictures of Ms. Obama, her grandson who was present and other family members.

    During my interview of Sarah Obama, I called Bishop Ron McRae in the United States from my mobile number. I advised Bishop McRae that I was present with Ms. Obmaa in her home, and wished for him to speak with her. Bishop McRae informed me he would call me right back, to avoid the international costs on my personal mobile phone. Bishop McRae subsequently called me back; Bishop McRae requested permission to electronically record his telephone conversation with Ms. Obama, to which I agreed.

    Due to bad telephone connections Bishop McRae had to call me back three (3) times, before we were able to continue our conversation. The telephone interview conducted by Bishop McRase was conducted on loud speaker (speaker phone). during the interview conversation, one of Ms. Obama’s grandsons and myself acted as Swahili translators, and as Bishop McRae talked to and questions Ms. Obama, we wouls translate what Bishop McRae and to Ms. Obama in Swahili, and then we would translate her Swahlil responses to Bishop McRae in English. Ms. Obama can fluirently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write.

    Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied “Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with purported information from American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mrs. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that “No, No, No he was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit “A”.

    I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital to which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barrack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, JR. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barach H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge to immigration if I wanted further information.

    The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.

    I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.

    Signed,

    Kweli Shuhubia
    John 3:30/Philippians 3:19-21,29,30

  244. graemebird Says:

    Apparently you people have got everything upside down.

    To you NO EVIDENCE is evidence.

    And actual evidence is evidence for the opposite.

    So whats this all about?

    You Cambria you stupid bootnigger speak up?

    I mean what a performance.

    To you guys evidence is the enemy.

    And No evidence is fantastic absolute proof.

    You have no evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

    So you consider that this is absolute proof that he was born in Hawaii.

    But I give you evidence that he was born elsewhere apparently that too is proof that he was born in Hawaii.

  245. graemebird Says:

    So what is your argument you fucking morons?

    Good to see Fyodor and Cambria together as it ought to have always been. Cambria exposed as a welfare queen and pro-crony socialist.

  246. graemebird Says:

    So can we move on now? All of us have to do our best to bring this criminal usurper down.

    Since its proven that he is a usurper. No evidence for the contrary case being available.

  247. graemebird Says:

    Good so we’ve moved on. With acknowledgement that you have no evidence and that the evidence is very clear.

    So he’s got to be brought down before he destroys hundreds of millions of people via economic collapse.

    So the only thing we can do is go to everyone of our blogs and alert everyone that this maniac is a criminal marxist usurper.

  248. DH Says:

    An affidavit from someone who doesn’t exist? Wow.

    “OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.”

  249. 1554 Says:

    That’s a “6”. Has there been higher than that?

  250. graemebird Says:

    What are you talking about he doesn’t exist?

  251. graemebird Says:

    Fathead now is lying and claiming that the person who made the avadavit doesn’t exist.

  252. graemebird Says:

    Cambria you worm. I’ll beat you senseless if I ever meet you. You know that don’t you you parasitical worm.

    Now what is this business that fatty has come up with about someone not existing.

    See what you liars will stoop to?

  253. graemebird Says:

    Fatty’s new argument is that the fellow who made the following sworn statement doesn’t exist:

    Affadavit of Reverend Shuhubia

    I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a praty to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:

    I am an ordained minister of gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist church in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.

    It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya. Senator Obama’s grandmother still resides in the village of Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu City. On October 16, 2008 I went to interview Ms. Sarah Obama at her home. Ms. Obama’s home was flooded with people who were celebrating Senator Obama’s success story. Ms. Obama’s home was heavily guarded by Kenya Police. Prior to the interview with Ms. Obama, I took pictures of Ms. Obama, her grandson who was present and other family members.

    During my interview of Sarah Obama, I called Bishop Ron McRae in the United States from my mobile number. I advised Bishop McRae that I was present with Ms. Obmaa in her home, and wished for him to speak with her. Bishop McRae informed me he would call me right back, to avoid the international costs on my personal mobile phone. Bishop McRae subsequently called me back; Bishop McRae requested permission to electronically record his telephone conversation with Ms. Obama, to which I agreed.

    Due to bad telephone connections Bishop McRae had to call me back three (3) times, before we were able to continue our conversation. The telephone interview conducted by Bishop McRase was conducted on loud speaker (speaker phone). during the interview conversation, one of Ms. Obama’s grandsons and myself acted as Swahili translators, and as Bishop McRae talked to and questions Ms. Obama, we wouls translate what Bishop McRae and to Ms. Obama in Swahili, and then we would translate her Swahlil responses to Bishop McRae in English. Ms. Obama can fluirently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write.

    Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied “Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with purported information from American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mrs. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that “No, No, No he was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit “A”.

    I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital to which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barrack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, JR. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barach H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge to immigration if I wanted further information.

    The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.

    I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.

    Signed,

    Kweli Shuhubia
    John 3:30/Philippians 3:19-21,29,30

  254. graemebird Says:

    Thats the sort of argument we get from Cambrias idiot side of the argument. Here I give you evidence. In return the shit-for-brains side of the argument says that Kweli Shuhubia doesn’t exist.

    Well I guess he couldn’t have made the recording and the phone call if he doesn’t exist. He couldn’t have made the sworn statement and interviewed all these people in Kenya if he doesn’t exist.

  255. graemebird Says:

    Right. So we’ve proven that he’s a usurper. So can we move on now.

    Or have you found some evidence about some hospital that he was born in in Hawaii.

  256. graemebird Says:

    Fuck you guys are dumb cunts. the Cambria side of any argument is the dumb cunt side of the argument.

    You got nothing. And its like that on every single topic with you leftist parasites.

  257. DH Says:

    There’s no such person as Kweli Shuhubia. It’s a fake name.

    “OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.”

  258. 1554 Says:

    bird:

    You’re too fat and out of condition to be threatening anyone, you fat lardball.

    You’d better make the first one count.

    that’s a 7.

  259. DH Says:

    What’s it get up to if we can get him typing in caps?

  260. graemebird Says:

    What is this counting business.

    The fact is I’m right and you guys are wrong as usual.

    Since I ONLY follow the evidence and there is nothing you shitheads on the shit-for-brains naked short-selling Cambria side of the argument hate more than evidence.

  261. graemebird Says:

    Right. So are we all clear now.

    No evidence exists that he was born in Hawaii. All known evidence has it that he was born in Kenya.

  262. graemebird Says:

    Now this is important you dummies. A Marxist usurper is in the white house. He has hired the most corrupt retread leftist extremists as his coterie. He is in the process of destroying the United States. And he has helped kick off a new Keynesian revival of red ink that is completely fucking us up directly and indirectly.

    This means our American cover is gone militarily. Its gone fellas.

    Now can you bring yourselves to the realisation that this is an important matter?

    It really is important you know.

    Or do you think that our boys can defend Australia militarily?

    Or do you think our politicians WON’T sell us out in every conceivable way to the communists.

    Clearly they are already doing so.

  263. graemebird Says:

    So therefore it is of the utmost importance that we make these facts FACTS common knowledge. Because with a bit of luck if we were to wipe the slate clear of this Usurper and his idiot administration, then we may be able to reverse this Keynesian policy dysfunction and treason.

    And contrary to the idiot Cambria it is a good and wholly necessary thing to slash spending during a recession.

  264. Fyodor Says:

    But I give you evidence that he was born elsewhere apparently that too is proof that he was born in Hawaii.

    No, you gave us bullshit assertions. You have produced NO EVIDENCE, Turkey. Your refusal to provide it proves that you were lying.

    Now, retract your lies and apologise for wasting everybody’s time.

  265. DH Says:

    Once again, confronted with the fact that the affidavit he’s been banging on about is, in fact, worthless as evidence of anything (and might as well have been signed by Marylin Monroe or Donald Duck), Bird blusters.

    “OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.”

  266. graemebird Says:

    Eyewitness testimony is evidence backed up by a recording that we can all listen to, and in the form of a sworn statement is evidence.

    And since there is no evidence for the contrary case then there is no longer any mystery as to where he was born.

    Which hospital do you think he was born in and what is your evidence for this.

  267. graemebird Says:

    Here is the sworn statement again. And remember that you can verify this yourself by listening to the tape of it all. As unclear as it is. Although the tape is indistinct it backs up the Reverend story and brings the lie to Fatties idiotic interpretation of it.

    Affadavit of Reverend Shuhubia

    I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a praty to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:

    I am an ordained minister of gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist church in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.

    It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya. Senator Obama’s grandmother still resides in the village of Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu City. On October 16, 2008 I went to interview Ms. Sarah Obama at her home. Ms. Obama’s home was flooded with people who were celebrating Senator Obama’s success story. Ms. Obama’s home was heavily guarded by Kenya Police. Prior to the interview with Ms. Obama, I took pictures of Ms. Obama, her grandson who was present and other family members.

    During my interview of Sarah Obama, I called Bishop Ron McRae in the United States from my mobile number. I advised Bishop McRae that I was present with Ms. Obmaa in her home, and wished for him to speak with her. Bishop McRae informed me he would call me right back, to avoid the international costs on my personal mobile phone. Bishop McRae subsequently called me back; Bishop McRae requested permission to electronically record his telephone conversation with Ms. Obama, to which I agreed.

    Due to bad telephone connections Bishop McRae had to call me back three (3) times, before we were able to continue our conversation. The telephone interview conducted by Bishop McRase was conducted on loud speaker (speaker phone). during the interview conversation, one of Ms. Obama’s grandsons and myself acted as Swahili translators, and as Bishop McRae talked to and questions Ms. Obama, we wouls translate what Bishop McRae and to Ms. Obama in Swahili, and then we would translate her Swahlil responses to Bishop McRae in English. Ms. Obama can fluirently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write.

    Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied “Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with purported information from American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mrs. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that “No, No, No he was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit “A”.

    I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital to which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barrack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, JR. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barach H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge to immigration if I wanted further information.

    The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.

    I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.

    Signed,

    Kweli Shuhubia
    John 3:30/Philippians 3:19-21,29,30

  268. graemebird Says:

    So we don’t have any evidence that he was born in Hawaii. Whereas all the evidence that we have makes it that he was born in Kenya, and that he began life technically speaking, as a British subject. Since although his father really had nothing to do with him, still thats the way the Dunhams appear to have registered matters.

  269. DH Says:

    Graeme is now citing as “evidence” the “testimony of imaginary people. Kweli Shuhubia does not exist. It’s a fake name.

    Graeme is clearly suffering from psychosis:

    “Psychosis is a loss of contact with reality, typically including delusions (false ideas about what is taking place or who one is), hallucinations (seeing or hearing things which aren’t there), and disorganized thinking.

    “Psychosis is associated with the manic phase of bipolar I disorder, schizophrenia, and schizoaffective disorder.

    “Other conditions where psychosis may be present include postpartum psychosis, dementia, depressive episodes, Parkinson’s disease and multiple sclerosis.

    “The use of certain illegal drugs, including methamphetamine, can bring on psychotic episodes.”

    What treatment do people recommend?

  270. Steve Edney Says:

    The only “evidence” he was born in Kenya is this dodgy interview with his grandma where they ask her twice about her son Barack and then correct themselves to grandson and then she replies clearly showing she thinks they are asking about her son, and then finally ask where he was born and she says in Kenya.

    If you are a lunatic of course this counts as solid evidence while a birth certificate and birth notices in Hawaii are obviously wrong.

  271. DH Says:

    I suspect Bird’s been using far too much crystal-meth Steve. He needs urgent medical intervention.

  272. Fyodor Says:

    Eyewitness testimony is evidence backed up by a recording that we can all listen to, and in the form of a sworn statement is evidence.

    Coupla points here, Turkey.

    1. You don’t have an eyewitness, let alone their “testimony”.
    2. There’s no recording of your non-eyewitness.
    3. A bit of text of unknown origin that you’ve copied and pasted is not a “sworn statement”.
    4. You’ve produced garbage, NOT EVIDENCE.
    5. You are a ridiculous failure.

  273. 1554 Says:

    Bird:

    apologize, to us, the exiles and to the prez. Your amateurish sleuthing now belongs on the comedy channel.

    It’s over.

  274. graemebird Says:

    Where is this bullshit coming from that the testimony is fake?

    Where is this rubbish coming from?

    Lets have the testimony again:Affadavit of Reverend Shuhubia

    I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a praty to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:

    I am an ordained minister of gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist church in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.

    It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya. Senator Obama’s grandmother still resides in the village of Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu City. On October 16, 2008 I went to interview Ms. Sarah Obama at her home. Ms. Obama’s home was flooded with people who were celebrating Senator Obama’s success story. Ms. Obama’s home was heavily guarded by Kenya Police. Prior to the interview with Ms. Obama, I took pictures of Ms. Obama, her grandson who was present and other family members.

    During my interview of Sarah Obama, I called Bishop Ron McRae in the United States from my mobile number. I advised Bishop McRae that I was present with Ms. Obmaa in her home, and wished for him to speak with her. Bishop McRae informed me he would call me right back, to avoid the international costs on my personal mobile phone. Bishop McRae subsequently called me back; Bishop McRae requested permission to electronically record his telephone conversation with Ms. Obama, to which I agreed.

    Due to bad telephone connections Bishop McRae had to call me back three (3) times, before we were able to continue our conversation. The telephone interview conducted by Bishop McRase was conducted on loud speaker (speaker phone). during the interview conversation, one of Ms. Obama’s grandsons and myself acted as Swahili translators, and as Bishop McRae talked to and questions Ms. Obama, we wouls translate what Bishop McRae and to Ms. Obama in Swahili, and then we would translate her Swahlil responses to Bishop McRae in English. Ms. Obama can fluirently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write.

    Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied “Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with purported information from American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mrs. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that “No, No, No he was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit “A”.

    I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital to which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barrack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, JR. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barach H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge to immigration if I wanted further information.

    The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.

    I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.

    Signed,

    Kweli Shuhubia
    John 3:30/Philippians 3:19-21,29,30

    Where is it coming from that this person doesn’t exist.

    There is nothing that the Cambria side of the argument will not try on.

  275. graemebird Says:

    The argument of the Cambria side is that Kweli Shuhubia does not exist.

    Amazing. You get a sworn statement as evidence and then you claim the fellow doesn’t exist. And he didn’t have a mobilephone. And nobody called him or taped the call.

  276. 1554 Says:

    Z:

    Would you mind removing the above so-called “affidavit” please. Bird has pasted it here numerous times and now is really nothing more than spamming this excellent site.

  277. 1554 Says:

    No bird, you fat fuck, I don’t know if that idiot does or doesn’t exist. i never mentioned anything about his existence.

    Edney has provided an excellent explanation, so I’ll go with that.

    Now please apologize to everyone you have abused and threatened… along with the prez.

  278. DH Says:

    McRae has acknowledged Kweli Shuhubia is a fake name. As ‘evidence’ it’s worthless.

    And besides, Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said he was born in Hawaii.

  279. graemebird Says:

    So the Cambria side of the argument get a sworn statement from an African minister that has interviewed Sarah Obama and the response is to say HE DOESN’T EXIST AND THERE IS NO RECORDING.

    You guys are fucking mental. Totally delusional.

    Here is the recording here:

  280. graemebird Says:

    So you just make the fake claim that the fellow doesn’t exist. Although he interviewed Sarah Obama and has made a sworn statement.

    Just bizzare.

    Well there you have it folks.

    If the Cambria side of the argument doesn’t want to believe a sworn statement they just say the fellow who made it doesn’t exist.

  281. graemebird Says:

    I’ve linked to the recording. You can here the guy speaking. He’s made a sworn statement. He’s a minister of the church. And you just say it never happened. There is no recording. And the fellow doesn’t exist.

    Great way to deal with evidence.

    You leftists really hate evidence that much.

  282. 1554 Says:

    It’s over, bird. This one goes into the martian highway trash heap.

    Apologize and be done with it.

  283. graemebird Says:

    Amazing. They have no evidence of their own. NONE. And when you post evidence they just go into leftist projection and say its the other guy who has no evidence.

    So of course I couldn’t have posted a sworn statement. Of course not. The sworn statment doesn’t exist. There is no such person. The recording isn’t there (even though its linked) and the fellow who made it was never there. No-one phoned him on the mobilephone since he doesn’t exist.

  284. graemebird Says:

    The mobilephone the McCrae rang him on doesn’t exist either I suppose. And when they called he wasn’t at Sarah Obama’s place. Perhaps he just went to the closest black village and got a few black people to perform the whole thing.

    This is the way the Cambria side of the argument deals with evidence.

  285. graemebird Says:

    We have eyewitness testimony backed by a sworn statement.

    So thats really the end of the story on this one.

    Obama is only about 47. If he was born in Hawaii, which he isn’t, but if he was there would be some way to prove it. But rather what has been proven is that he was born in Kenya.

  286. graemebird Says:

    What do you mean Cambria.

    We have sworn statement. Here it is again. A sworn by an ordained African minister of the church.

    Affadavit of Reverend Shuhubia

    I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a praty to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:

    I am an ordained minister of gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist church in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.

    It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya. Senator Obama’s grandmother still resides in the village of Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu City. On October 16, 2008 I went to interview Ms. Sarah Obama at her home. Ms. Obama’s home was flooded with people who were celebrating Senator Obama’s success story. Ms. Obama’s home was heavily guarded by Kenya Police. Prior to the interview with Ms. Obama, I took pictures of Ms. Obama, her grandson who was present and other family members.

    During my interview of Sarah Obama, I called Bishop Ron McRae in the United States from my mobile number. I advised Bishop McRae that I was present with Ms. Obmaa in her home, and wished for him to speak with her. Bishop McRae informed me he would call me right back, to avoid the international costs on my personal mobile phone. Bishop McRae subsequently called me back; Bishop McRae requested permission to electronically record his telephone conversation with Ms. Obama, to which I agreed.

    Due to bad telephone connections Bishop McRae had to call me back three (3) times, before we were able to continue our conversation. The telephone interview conducted by Bishop McRase was conducted on loud speaker (speaker phone). during the interview conversation, one of Ms. Obama’s grandsons and myself acted as Swahili translators, and as Bishop McRae talked to and questions Ms. Obama, we wouls translate what Bishop McRae and to Ms. Obama in Swahili, and then we would translate her Swahlil responses to Bishop McRae in English. Ms. Obama can fluirently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write.

    Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied “Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with purported information from American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mrs. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that “No, No, No he was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit “A”.

    I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital to which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barrack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, JR. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barach H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge to immigration if I wanted further information.

    The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.

    I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.

    Signed,

    Kweli Shuhubia
    John 3:30/Philippians 3:19-21,29,30

    On one side of the argument we have a sworn statement. And we know that Obama was never once in a Hawaiian hospital nor was his mother.

    On the other side we have blind faith.

  287. graemebird Says:

    So lets have your evidence then fellas.

    Cambria you stupid bootnigger cunt.

    Given that neither Obama, nor his mother, have ever been in a Hawaiian hospital, how is it that you believe he was born in Hawaii?

    Blind faith hey you dumb cunt?

  288. graemebird Says:

    I’ve produced a sworn statement and a recording backing the reality of the sworn statement up.

    And you guys have nothing. And in fact he COULD NOT HAVE BEEN BORN IN HAWAII. Or there would be hospital records of him having been born there. And there would be a nurse still alive who would remember a negro baby being born to a white 17 year old.

  289. graemebird Says:

    I’m struggling to see what the argument is here.

    African ministers are just chuckleheaded niggers that lie all the time in your view hey Cambria. Is that you argument you have on the fly here Cambria?

  290. graemebird Says:

    Come on Cambria you stupid bootnigger cunt!!!

    What is your reasoning here. On the one side no-one can find any hospital records of Obama being born in Hawaii. On the other side we have a sworn statement of an African minister that his grandma said that he was born in Mombassa and to top it off we know what hospital he was born in.

    So what is your reasoning Cambria. Lets hear it from you.

  291. graemebird Says:

    So we have a sworn statement by an African minister of the church and a complementary recording referring to the incident that he explains.

    Whereas on the opposing theory we know that he couldn’t have been born in Hawaii or all the documentation and eyewitnesses would be readily available.

    And you guys choose to go against the evidence through blind faith and a belief in the occult. Or so it seems.

    Cambria you tell us where the evidence is pointing and why?

  292. graemebird Says:

    Well come on Cambria you stupid bootnigger cunt.

    We want evidence that he was born in Hawaii.

    Testimony of older relatives. Or a nurse. Hospital records. Anything we aren’t fussy you fucking idiot cunt.

  293. 1554 Says:

    that’s a 9ner. I hold the record now.

  294. Genghis Sun Says:

    9 in a row! Cambria, that’s at least honourable mention

    Do we have a record?

  295. graemebird Says:

    Lets have that evidence Cambria you stupid cunt.

    The point is we know where he was born. No evidence goes against this absolute fact.

    So lets move on shall we.

  296. 1554 Says:

    Bird:

    are threats+ abuse all you have left? Is that it?

    You have no evidence. produce the evidence or stfu and apologize.

  297. DH Says:

    1) The full recording clearly has the translator saying that Sarah Obama said Barack Obama Jr was born in Hawaii, and that she was present at the birth of his father, Barack Obama Sr, who was born in Kenya:

    MCRAE: When I come in December. I would like to come by the place, the hospital, where he was born. Could you tell me where he was born? Was he born in Mombasa?

    OGOMBE: No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.

    MCRAE: Whereabouts was he born? I thought he was born in Kenya.

    OGOMBE: No, he was born in America, not in Mombasa.

    MCRAE: Do you know where he was born? I thought he was born in Kenya. I was going to go by and see where he was born.

    OGOMBE: Hawaii. Hawaii. Sir, she says he was born in Hawaii. In the state of Hawaii, where his father was also learning, there. The state of Hawaii.

    2) I have my own Youtube video. Barack Obama’s uncle, Sayid Obama, says plainly, and in English, that Barack Obama’s first time in Kenya was in 1987. The following transcript starts at 3:30 in the video.

    Narrator: Barack Obama first came to visit his father’s grave back in 1987

    Sayid Obama: It was his first time in Kenya. I can say it was kind of happiness mixed with some sadness because he was a person coming to see this site of his family and at the same time coming to see where his father was buried.

    3) Sarah Obama confirmed in another interview that the first time she met Barack was when he came to Kenya as an adult.

    4) Mcrae has stated in his own evidence that Kweli Shuhubia is not the actual name of whoever it was making the statement. For evidentiary purposes in a court room it’s absolutely worthless. Which is one of the reasons this case got thrown out of court.

    Graeme, go see a doctor. Quickly.

  298. Genghis Sun Says:

    Just apologise Dobell Doughboy

    It’d save you the trouble of hunting for non-existent evidence

  299. graemebird Says:

    Oh thats evidence. 9inarow. 9 in a row. Thats evidence.

    So what next. You going to start composing Haikus as if that is evidence also. Thats what the Catallaxy crowd used to do.

    Now this is important you dummies. A Marxist usurper is in the white house. He has hired the most corrupt retread leftist extremists as his coterie. He is in the process of destroying the United States. And he has helped kick off a new Keynesian revival of red ink that is completely fucking us up directly and indirectly.

    This means our American cover is gone militarily. Its gone fellas.

    Now can you bring yourselves to the realisation that this is an important matter?

    It really is important you know.

    Or do you think that our boys can defend Australia militarily?

    Or do you think our politicians WON’T sell us out in every conceivable way to the communists.

    Clearly they are already doing so.

  300. 1554 Says:

    Genghis:

    Yep. I think that’s a record.

    It was hard and dirty work.

  301. graemebird Says:

    I’ve proved that he was born in Mombasa.

    And the lack of evidence for an Hawaiian birth is striking and totally inconsistent WITH and Hawaiian birth.

    So I’ve won this and all other arguments too. Including the carbon tax argument and the multiplier argument.

    In each of these cases the very dearth of evidence for your side is evidence for my side. Because the dearth of evidence is entirely inconsistent with your sides faith-based thesis in all cases.

  302. graemebird Says:

    I’ve produced a sworn statement by an African minister.

    So I’ve proved it in the face of no evidence to the contrary.

  303. graemebird Says:

    Well Cambria. What is the argument for your thesis you stupid bootnigger cunt.

    If he was born in Hawaii you would have a paper trail and witnesses.

    So why you believe this nonsense.

    What a dumb fucking cunt you are.

    And here you are stupid bootnigger, projecting your own dishonesty and idiocy onto African ministers of the church.

  304. graemebird Says:

    I’ve won the argument. There is no doubt about that.

    Its a total wipeout for the side of the argument that loves blind faith and hates evidence. A total defeat for Cambrian stupidity.

  305. DH Says:

    Who is Cambria?

  306. JohnZ Says:

    Graeme, DH has clearly bested you in this argument.

    It’s time to throw in the towel.

  307. Genghis Sun Says:

    “It’s time to throw in the towel.”

    Just make sure it’s all clear before you throw it. For that towel to wrap around your arse it could suffocate 10 women who get caught under it.

  308. Genghis Sun Says:

    hey Graeme
    your arse must be red and purple with all the welts that DH has left all over it.

  309. 1554 Says:

    z

    no recognition for the 9ner? Ummm.

  310. graemebird Says:

    Well we know he was born in Kenya. He’s hiding his birth certificate and we know why.

    And there is no mystery of why he is hiding his birth certificate to the Kenyans. They all know he was born over there.

  311. graemebird Says:

    You know you pulled this stunt all throughout the threads of doom you gook cunt. When I was whipping Andrew or Fyodor in these arguments you would simply show up and claim that the other guy was winning.

    Three years on and we have this financial crisis. And you managed to prevent anyone from learning a fucking thing about monetary economics by this self-same technique.

    I guess Sarah Obama is just a stupid nigger as well. Doesn’t matter what these black people say your faith is stronger.

  312. Genghis Sun Says:

    yeah Graeme I really regret that now

    if only I had told people that you were beating Fyodor, the financial crisis might never have happened

  313. Fyodor Says:

    When I was whipping Andrew or Fyodor in these arguments you would simply show up and claim that the other guy was winning.

    Ha! The only thing you were whipping was yourself, into a fury of failure, Dobell Dumbo.

    Also: you STILL have produced NO EVIDENCE. Cough it up, fella.

  314. 1554 Says:

    if only I had told people that you were beating Fyodor, the financial crisis might never have happened

    Yea…

    1. ruing the banking system with his hairbrained idea of doing away with currency.

    2. Having a deposit boxes instead of a bank accounts

    3. forcing currency out of circulation and only using gold coins or barrels of liquified coal (that you would have to carry around that no one uses) as money.

    4. Executing people who lend money to others.

    5. allowing people to act like gofers by burrowing under their neighbors homes and calling it “homesteading”.

    (Imagine the number of building falling into these huge holes)

    In 3 short years he’d have the country look like one giant south American village when you see a beat up old car and chickens flying around everywhere.

    Yea great thesis Bird. Nobel prize winning stuff. And you’re criticizing obama’s economics. You idiot.

  315. graemebird Says:

    Well the fact is we have underground highways now and I think they are pretty important. We have the M5. So you have a problem with the M5.

    Tell us this problem you have with the M5 Cambria.

  316. Fyodor Says:

    In 3 short years he’d have the country look like one giant south American village when you see a beat up old car and chickens flying around everywhere.

    Ah, yes, The Land of Chickens. We could call it Birdistan.

  317. graemebird Says:

    See you are an idiot Cambria. We have the Harbour tunnel. We have all sorts of highways with an underground component. And they go under peoples houses.

    And few of them have collapsed.

    So its just the same old case of you being a stupid cunt Cambria.

    Just like your insistence that we have to have all this wasteful parastical spending during a recession.

  318. graemebird Says:

    See you never make a case for anything Cambria. You are a stupid cunt. You’ve come up in favour of vast wasteful spending in a recession. No reason. And you’ve suddenly turned on underground roads. Our city would be gridlocked without them.

  319. graemebird Says:

    Apart from attacking the Harbour tunnel and the M5 all Cambria can do is lie.

    Anyway lets not divert the subject here. We know that Obama was born in Kenya. Thats a pretty important finding don’t you think.

  320. Mark Hill Says:

    Come on now Graeme, the M5 and Harbour tunnels compose a small proportion of the total lenght of Sydney motorways.

    This is like saying since there is a bridge in the Hume Highway at Albury as it crosses the Murray, the whole damned thing should be a suspension bridge from Brunswick, Melbourne to Burwood, Sydney.

    *Ergo, Obama is a subject of the Crown and a hardcore Marxist.*

    What flawless logic.

  321. graemebird Says:

    Well they cleared up the traffic problems in my area at one stage and I think they are very important. But CAmbria has a problem with them it seems.

    But anyway lets stay on track. We have a marxist usurper destroying our allies economy. Thats pretty serious stuff.

  322. 1554 Says:

    No, I have no issue with tunnels. However the idea of homesteading under your neighbors house is moronic. In fact its certifiable.

  323. DH Says:

    Here is a picture of Graeme winning an arguement:

  324. graemebird Says:

    Well I wouldn’t imagine you would homestead under your neighbours house. So thats just you lying.

    But if we want free enterprise infrastructure we would need some sort of way to do this.

  325. Genghis Sun Says:

    Graeme doing his daily aerobics

  326. graemebird Says:

    The Hawaiian paper and witness trail isn’t exactly coming thick and fast. Nor is Cambrians explanation as to how free enterprise infrastructure would be possible without being able to tunnel anywhere.

  327. graemebird Says:

    Cambrias justification for socialist money isn’t a happening thing either. Or for paper money, given that the Americans paper money is on the verge of destruction.

    So its a total absence of valid argument from the Cambria side of the debate. Lying. Ignoring evidence. Ignoring the need for evidence. This appears to be the bootnigger side of the arguments total full spectrum faith-based approach.

  328. graemebird Says:

    Cambrias economics would have it that fiat currency is the great wealth creator. And that without it we would just have these chickens running around the place.

    This faith-based approach to socialist money Cambria also takes to global warming, and to locating the birth-place of people. Which is an exercise in intuition and divining for the irrational bootnigger Cambria.

  329. DH Says:

    *yawns*

  330. graemebird Says:

    Right. So I’ve won the argument.

    Absence of evidence is evidence for the contrary case and obviously so.

    You having nothing confirms his Kenyan birth. Any other hospital and the records would be there.

  331. graemebird Says:

    We have the reason and evidence-based approach which gives us a Kenyan birth and then the flight home to Hawaii. And then we have the faith-based approach which gives us a Hawaiin birth based on bootnigger intuition.

  332. DH Says:

    No Graeme, you’ve presented nothing other than the outright lies and fevered imaginings originating in the thoroughly discredited Berg lawsuit.

    Victory remains ours, and your words are nothing more than the pathetic whimperings of a whipped puppy.

    Now, hop back into your kennel and tend to your wounds. We won’t be so nice next time.

  333. DH Says:

    Back in your box? Good boy:

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/

    Now we can get back to the serious business of discussing treatment of your ongoing psychosis.

  334. graemebird Says:

    No thats not right. I presented a signed and sworn affidavit. You said the man didn’t exist.

  335. graemebird Says:

    We might have to call that the Cambria approach to evidence. All sworn statements don’t exist. Recordings never happen and aren’t there. Mobile-phone-calls don’t happen. Neither party exist and its all a putupon.

  336. graemebird Says:

    The Hawaiian birth story is a faith-based story. Yet here we have a signed and sworn statement as to where he was really born.

  337. graemebird Says:

    I’m afraid we are just going to have to keep going over this again until DH stops lying about it. Apparently black people are not to be trusted and just lie about everything even in sworn statements in the Cambria view of things.

    Now where is this revelation coming from that the Cambria side reckons that this fellow doesn’t exist?

    Affadavit of Reverend Shuhubia

    I, Kweli Shuhubia am over the age of eighteen (18) and not a praty to the within action. If called to do so, I could and would competently testify under oath as follows:

    I am an ordained minister of gospel of Jesus Christ and a native evangelist and translator for the Anabaptist church in Kenya. I am the official Swahili translator for the annual Anabaptists Conference held each year in Africa, working with the American bishops sitting upon the Continental Presbytery of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa. I am fluent in Swahili and in English. I am a former teacher in Kenya, and travel extensively in the ministries of the Anabaptists Churches of Africa throughout Kenya, Uganda and the Sudan.

    It is common knowledge throughout the Christian and Muslim communities in Kenya that Barack Hussein Obama, Jr., the United States Presidential candidate, was born in Mombosa Kenya. Senator Obama’s grandmother still resides in the village of Alego-Kogello, approximately 37 miles from Kisumu City. On October 16, 2008 I went to interview Ms. Sarah Obama at her home. Ms. Obama’s home was flooded with people who were celebrating Senator Obama’s success story. Ms. Obama’s home was heavily guarded by Kenya Police. Prior to the interview with Ms. Obama, I took pictures of Ms. Obama, her grandson who was present and other family members.

    During my interview of Sarah Obama, I called Bishop Ron McRae in the United States from my mobile number. I advised Bishop McRae that I was present with Ms. Obmaa in her home, and wished for him to speak with her. Bishop McRae informed me he would call me right back, to avoid the international costs on my personal mobile phone. Bishop McRae subsequently called me back; Bishop McRae requested permission to electronically record his telephone conversation with Ms. Obama, to which I agreed.

    Due to bad telephone connections Bishop McRae had to call me back three (3) times, before we were able to continue our conversation. The telephone interview conducted by Bishop McRase was conducted on loud speaker (speaker phone). during the interview conversation, one of Ms. Obama’s grandsons and myself acted as Swahili translators, and as Bishop McRae talked to and questions Ms. Obama, we wouls translate what Bishop McRae and to Ms. Obama in Swahili, and then we would translate her Swahlil responses to Bishop McRae in English. Ms. Obama can fluirently speak Swahili in her native dialect, but cannot read or write.

    Bishop McRae asked Ms. Obama specifically, “Were you present when your grandson Barack Obama was born in Kenya” This was asked to her in translation twice, and both times she specifically replied “Yes”. It appeared Ms. Obama’s relatives and her grandson, handling the translating, had obviously been versed to counter such facts with purported information from American news media that Obama was born in Hawaii. Despite this, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama was very adamant that her grandson, Senator Barack Hussein Obama, was born in Kenya, and that she was present and witnessed his birth in Kenya, not the United States. When Mrs. Obama’s grandson attempted to counter his grandmother’s clear responses to the question, verifying the birth of Senator Obama in Kenya, Bishop McRae asked her grandson how she could be present at Barack Obama’s birth if the Senator was born in Hawaii, but the grandson would not answer the question, instead he repeatedly tried to insert that “No, No, No he was born in the United States!” But during the conversation, Ms. Sarah Hussein Obama never changed her reply that she was indeed present when Senator Barack Obama was born in Kenya. A copy of the Tape transcript is attached hereto as Exhibit “A”.

    I left Kisumu City and traveled to Mombosa, Kenya. I interviewed personnel at the hospital to which Senator Obama was born in Kenya. I then had meetings with the Provincial Civil Registrar. I learned there were records of Ann Dunham giving birth to Barrack Hussein Obama, III in Mombosa, Kenya on August 4, 1961. I spoke directly with an Official, the Principal Registrar, who openly confirmed the birthing records of Senator Barack H. Obama, JR. and his mother were present, however, the file on Barach H. Obama, Jr. was classified and profiled. The Official explained Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. birth in Kenya is top secret. I was further instructed to go to the Attorney General’s Office and to the Minister in Charge to immigration if I wanted further information.

    The above related facts are true and verifiable to the best of my personal knowledge before God Almighty, whose I am and whom I serve.

    I declare under the penalty of perjury of the laws of the United States, that the foregoing is true and correct.

    Signed,

    Kweli Shuhubia
    John 3:30/Philippians 3:19-21,29,30

  338. Genghis Sun Says:

    let’s have some evidence that this reverend chihuahua exists, Doughboy

  339. graemebird Says:

    Look how these communists think. This is truly a showtrial mentality from the Cambria side of the argument. Bear in mind that Raila Odinga had just seized power by murdering thousands of people.

    “Ron McRae wrote at letter to http://CitizenWells.wordpress.com, explaining the circumstances of the intervew with Sarah Obama, so check-it-out, and spread the word. The pastor in Kenya, “Kweli Shuhubia,” is using that fake name for protection, as the Muslims in Kenya, who support Obama’s pal Raila Odinga (currently second in command in Kenya), are poised to riot and kill thousands of Christians, as they did when Odinga lost the election for the top job there. ”

    So DH has been saying this fellow doesn’t exist simply on the basis that he is using an alias.

    You people are spineless insects. And a very chilling bunch of nihilists. What do you think he was going to do? Get himself slaughtered along with everyone else?

  340. graemebird Says:

    So your denial of the evidence is on the basis of what?

    On the basis of prudent steps in the face of mass-murder.

    Cambria you really are a fucking idiot.

  341. graemebird Says:

    So basically all of you picked up on the idea that this fellow was using an alias because of the mass-murders in his country by Odinga.

    And you reckon that nullifies the evidence. But I’m saying that the alias is evidence of the murder.

    What do you reckon its evidence for Cambria you stupid bootnigger?

    The testimony stands until you come up with a better excuse then that.

  342. Genghis Sun Says:

    come on doughboy
    let’s see that evidence that the reverend ebola exists

  343. 1554 Says:

    Bird:

    The vacuum clean er for conspiracy theories. Sucks’em up like a vac.

  344. graemebird Says:

    So nothing at all. And to think you tribal lunatics got stooged by the fact, that after the Raila Odinga and Barack Obama-organized campaign of mass murder, that a fellow using an assumed name would throw you guys so much off the trail. Like some cheap doubling back upstream gambit used to throw off a pack of the stupidest bloodhounds ever born.

    So still no argument. And nothing new in the economist blog either.

    What a complete bunch of fucking dummies you are. You are an embarrassment.

    Mass-murder appears to me to be a pretty good reason to use an assumed name I would have thought.

  345. graemebird Says:

    Why do you assume that the fellow doesn’t exist though you are witness to a tape he himself made?

    Is it because you don’t think that mass-murder by communists ISN’T a good reason to use a pseudonym? Why has the issue of his existence even come up? We know that Obama has helped turn Kenya into a radical Islamic enclave now when it used to be peaceful. Do try and keep up with the context.

  346. graemebird Says:

    Is the recent mass-murder of Christians by Muslims organized by Obama and Raila Odinga NOT!!!!!!! a good reason to use a pseudonym in this ‘context?

    How did the issue of this fellows existence ever come up? This is show-trial stuff. You guys are barely reconstructed communists. There is really no doubt about that.

  347. graemebird Says:

    So there has been this mass-murder right? Obama goes around stirring up trouble in order to help a Islamic supremist and know Marxist rig an election.

    And you are saying that an assumed name is not appropriate.

    Well really smart analysts you blockheads turned out to be. And no surprises when it comes to where your sentiments lie. No surprises ever on that score.

  348. Fyodor Says:

    Still NO EVIDENCE, Dumbo?

    I think you need to appreciate that nobody’s going to believe your rancid delusions unless you actually produce verifiable facts. So far you’ve got made-up blokes saying they heard from some guy who maybe saw a document once. That’s not EVIDENCE.

    Are you up to the challenge, Dobell Doughboy? Can you produce the EVIDENCE?

  349. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    Hey Birdy, RPH & Winchester

    Even the ueber right wing fringe at FrontPageMag debunks any claim Obama was born anywhere else than Hawaii

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=68E5BBDC-1697-4DAC-88E6-3375428AD0D7

  350. graemebird Says:

    Yeah thats David Horowitz going off on a tangent. David debunked nothing. He said let it go on account that it was a clear win.

    I argued with him back and forth on that one and I was priviledged to receive some emails from the great heroe. Which just goes to show that everyone has weak parts to their character. And even great heroes can let you down sometimes for inexplicable reasons known best to them. So never can you rely on the cult of personality. And never do you not have the responsibility to follow the evidence and think for yourself.

  351. Fyodor Says:

    EVIDENCE, fella.

    E-V-I-D-E-N-C-E.

  352. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    That piece has nothing to do with Horrowitz’s stupid arguments.

    It’s a piece by Andrew Walden, and he debunks these conspiracy theories as exactly that: conspiracy theories.

  353. graemebird Says:

    He doesn’t debunk anything. Nothing. You people are so stupid you don’t know what evidence is, and you know nothing about what debunking is. You are epistemological nitwits.

    Now I’ve been over there. And I’ve thrown down the Gauntlet.

    And this is what I’ve said:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    SECOND POST

    ” Totally Wrong In Every Constituent Point. – GraemeBird 4/1/2009 6:29 PM
    Andrew is of course entirely wrong in every constituent point of his screed. But having come to his motherload of baseless assertions just this minute, and seeing a large chain of comments, did anyone come good with any half-feeble backing for this youthful claptrap?

    FIRST POST:

    Totally Wild Assertions. – GraemeBird 4/1/2009 6:25 PM
    Look. We know that your boss. Wonderful man that he is. Has already sported a weakness for this subject.

    These are some pretty wild claims you are making. So far we just have your assertions. Your WRONG assertions if I may be so bold. So its looks like you are going to have to do better than mere assertions Andrew. ”

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    So thats it. Thats the end of the matter. He came up with no evidence. His claims are ridiculous. And thats the end of the matter because he is not going to come up with any actual evidence.

  354. Mark Hill Says:

    From Front Page Mag:

    ” There is nothing unusual about the design or the texture. In addition to the birth certificate, the August 13, 1961 Honolulu Advertiser also carries an announcement of Obama’s birth. The Honolulu Star-Bulletin also carries the same announcement. Both papers printed an identical list of birth announcements supplied to them by the Hawaii State Department of Health. Conspiracists have made much of the fact that the Territory of Hawaii gave a phony birth certificate in 1904 to Chinese republican leader Sun Yat Sen for diplomatic reasons. But the modern State of Hawaii has never supplied Certification of Live Birth indicating US birth for foreign-born children. ”

    “Since Hawai’i law forbids the release of birth certificates to anybody not authorized by Barack Obama or his family, Obama further feeds the paranoia by choosing not to grant such permissions. A World Net Daily story claiming Hawai’i’s Republican Governor Linda Lingle ‘sealed’ the birth certificate is totally false. The governor’s office has asked for a retraction. ”

    “For Obama to have been born in Kenya, Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr. would have had to fly from Honolulu to Mombasa, give birth in a substandard third world hospital, fly back and then somehow arrange for a fraudulent birth certificate to be entered by the State of Hawai’i on August 8, 1961 (at the time governed by Republican William Quinn). They would have also somehow planted the phony birth announcement in the Honolulu Advertiser (at the time edited by Republican Thurston Twigg-Smith) and the Honolulu Star-Bulletin. Hawai’i’s current Republican Governor Linda Lingle would also have to be complicit in the cover-up as would all of the leftist 1960s University of Hawaii friends of Ann Dunham and Barack Obama Sr—among them US Rep Neil Abercrombie.”

    “Obama benefits from creating an opposition which seems to be standing by the side of the road impotently pointing to a piece of paper as if it could stop 63 million voters from anointing their ‘chosen one’. Birth certificate lawsuit plaintiff Phil Berg is a Democrat and whether he understands it or not, he has done great work on behalf of his party.”

    Bird is working for the man.

  355. graemebird Says:

    Thats all nonsense. Every last bit of it. Even the bit about the hospital being substandard. This was a British Empire regional hospital. Andrew’s just an ignorant kid.

    I checked the newspaper entries he linked to. You cannot get at them. Nothing. There is nothing there.

    So this is what I told him:

    “Exactly right 49Bob. There is nothing to see here. Andrew has come up with nothing. He has nothing. He has been Pimped by the long-legged Mac Daddy and quite frankly he’s made a fool of himself.

    So we have just got to continue with trying to get this guy dragged away in chains, just as the constitution would have it, and the sooner you people have a new election the better, so as to stop this Marxist Usurper wrecking your dollar, your country, and your society.”

  356. Mark Hill Says:

    “Thats all nonsense.”

    Precisely. But this is what your whacko beliefs rest on.

  357. graemebird Says:

    Its all nonsense. Every last bit of it. An evidence-free-zone. Go to his link and there is a confession of prior tampering.

  358. Fyodor Says:

    An evidence-free-zone.

    And where’s YOUR EVIDENCE, fella?

  359. JohnZ Says:

    I checked the newspaper entries he linked to. You cannot get at them. Nothing. There is nothing there.

    Turkey, are you claiming the birth notice is not real?

    You tried this trick before with the passport and were busted for lying. If you make another such claim, you need to put some skin in the game.

    How about we bet $50 that the announcement is in the newspaper?

  360. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    Are you people really this stupid?

    Or are you just pretending?

    WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!

  361. DH Says:

    What Ron? As stupid as you?

    No.

  362. graemebird Says:

    One of the birth notices is there. Andrew claims that they are an automatic ring in from the authorities. Bizarre if you ask me. It would be alright if he backed it up and it turned out to be a strange 1961 Hawaiian custom. But he has not done that.

  363. graemebird Says:

    I’ve been over there today repeatedly challenging this fellow to come good with his wild claims. So far nothing from anyone or his suppporters.

  364. Fyodor Says:

    So far nothing from Graeme “Mombasa” Bird.

    EVIDENCE, fella. EVIDENCE.

  365. 1554 Says:

    “Challenging this fellow”? You mean harassing the poor dude who doesn’t know the lunatic that’s chasing like we do…

    That would be more like it.

  366. DH Says:

    It’s OK 1554, I’m on the case:

    http://www.frontpagemag.com/GoPostal/commentdetail.aspx?GUID=68e5bbdc-1697-4dac-88e6-3375428ad0d7&commentID=38702e22-e891-4969-b774-dc19a80b82a7

    People need to know.

  367. 1554 Says:

    Oh good. Thanks for warning the poor guy.

  368. graemebird Says:

    I see that this thread is still taking the faith-based Hawaiian birth approach to things.

  369. graemebird Says:

    So far nothing from you guys. Or from Walden. Walden even went so far as to claim the certificate wasn’t a fraud. Or course he had no backup for this is for any other ludicrous claim of his.

  370. 1554 Says:

    Or course he had no backup for this is for any other ludicrous claim of his.

    Of course the doesn’t. The Hawaiian authorities are lying obviously.

    Dope.

  371. DH Says:

    I see you lost over there as well.

    Oh, and by the way, these idiots Techdude and Poldarik who you rely on for the forgery nonsense have been thoroughly discredited as well.

  372. graemebird Says:

    If Phil Berg and Orly Taitz have been wrong about all other matters in their life prior it hardly matters because they are right in this case. Of that we can be sure. And David Horowitz has likely been right about more things than almost anyone else these last 20 years, but we can be absolutely confident that he is wrong in this case. And this isn’t a bad thing. Its a good thing. It shows us that we must not diefy anyone, and that we must always think for ourselves.

    So you of deep pockets don’t stop contributing to frontpage. It has set the standard, in the power of its journalism and the strength of its intellectual rigour with only a few weak spots here and there. Its like Pat Buchanan. I love him. I think he’s marvellous. But he’s too harsh on Israel. Its not an absolutist thing but he’s just consistently too hard on them. Well nobodies perfect you know.

    If Phil Berg and Orly Taitz were wrong in EVERY CONSTITUENT PART OF THEIR CASE, taken in its entirety their case would still be right. The case of Orly Taitz and Phillip Bergs is the case for reason, rationality, vigilance, lawfulness, and respect for the Republic and the greatest and most noble human experiment ever undertaken in the history of mankind.

    Entirely independent of whose right and whose wrong on each and every constituent part of the argument, the case against Philip Berg and Orly Taitz is a case in favour of OCCULT-EPISTEMOLOGY, spitting on the constitution, giving special priviledges to marxists, the cold racism of condescension to black people, anti-vigilance, flippancy for the long-term, nihilism and everything unrighteous and rotten.

    Now what do I mean by Occult Epistemology? Well we can only know the truth through: reason and convergent evidence. Phillip Berg and Orly Taitz are saying PROVE ME WRONG. Prove me wrong. They are only asking to be proved wrong. Now whats wrong with being proved wrong? What is wrong with THAT?

    But the side opposed to them are claiming that they know things they cannot possibly know and they are claiming that no investigation is necessary. What sort of equal-opportunity idiocy is THIS?

    BEIGE DON’T MAKE IT BETTER.

    Its not alright to have a Marxist Usurper in the White House. Its not alright to pretend that you KNOW!!!!! that he is neither a marxist, nor a Usurper, when you cannot possibly know this.

    People act like these things are alright but they are not. Like UN soldiers raping the black women they are supposed to be protecting, folks act like thats not a biggie. But these things are not alright. They are not OK. They aren’t. Get used to it they are not alright. And who people voted for is such a minor point on this score, that its virtually tantamount to an irrelevancy.

    DIGRESSION.

    Its not OK to get people used to welfare and then suddenly pull the rug from under them and leave them to die. That the Americans have practiced defense welfarism all this time does not mean that you ought not give my country, and Taiwan, and perhaps Japan just a few years to become independent defense-wise if you want to take the Ron Paul angle and wash your hands of your dependents.

    I say this to remind you that though you have the right to be totally independent and never let another of your soldiers die on the basis of defense welfarism, the fact is we could have developed nuclear weapons but decided not to on account of your assurances. Thats my country Australia, Thailand and Japan.

    This may seem a tangential matter but I bring it in to say it doesn’t matter a tinkers cuss if each and every one of you Americans voted for a marxist usurper in the White House.

    You have wider responsibilities and no such person must be allowed that much power. Right now particularly is a time for vigilance and for grown-up behaviour. And you must investigate this man, and if his presence breaks a million oaths to the constitution, then he must go… and preferably in chains.

  373. graemebird Says:

    Why are you accusing the Hawaiian authorities of lying Cambria you stupid bootnigger.

    All polynesian chuckleheads in your view I assume?

    Hang your head in shame Cambria you senile old man.

  374. Fyodor Says:

    Provide the EVIDENCE, Dobell Doughboy.

  375. graemebird Says:

    Your turn. My main evidence is that he’s withholding information. What is YOUR main line of evidence ?

  376. Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    “Its not alright to have a Marxist Usurper in the White House. ”

    Mr B, that it is it in a nutshell.

    All this Bullshit about birth certificates and announcements in obscure mid-pacific journals is just that, Bullshit.

    The issue is that Obama-Soetoro is a Marxist Usurper.

    Whenever these moron leftist fucks start talking about the Constitution (as if they know anything about it) they are just trying to distract from the main point – that Obama-Soetoro is a Lonnnnnng-Legged Marxist Homosexual Pipe Hitting Crackhead.

  377. Fyodor Says:

    Your turn. My main evidence is that he’s withholding information.

    That’s not EVIDENCE of anything, other than that he’s withholding information. In other words, you now admit that you have donut, Doughboy.

    What is YOUR main line of evidence ?

    For what? I’m not the one making accusations I can’t substantiate; YOU ARE.

  378. DH Says:

    “The case of Orly Taitz and Phillip Bergs is the case for reason, rationality, vigilance, lawfulness, and respect for the Republic and the greatest and most noble human experiment ever undertaken in the history of mankind.”

    Here’s the latest from the rational Dentist/Attorney Orly Taitz. She needs volunteers to make phone-calls, apparently.

    http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/04/01/i-need-volunteers-to-make-phone-calls.aspx

    One wonders how she finds the time given all the medical malpractice suits she’s defending:

    https://ocapps.occourts.org/CivilPubv2/Login.do

    718165 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
    09/30/1993 MALPRACTICE – DENTAL

    S41640 RESPONDENT ORLY TAITZ
    02/27/1998 SMALL CLAIMS APPEAL

    00CC11017 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
    09/14/2000 MALPRACTICE – DENTAL

    03CC04813 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
    03/25/2003 MALPRACTICE-MEDICAL

    03CC12382 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
    10/10/2003 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

    03CC12364 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
    10/09/2003 MALPRACTICE – DENTAL

    04CC05196 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
    04/23/2004 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

    04CC06308 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ
    05/28/2004 CONTRACT – SPEC PERFORMANCE

    AP14265 APPELLANT ORLY TAITZ
    12/16/2004 MISC COMPLAINTS – OTHER

    05CC12538 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ D.D.S 11/23/2005 MALPRACTICE-MEDICAL

    06CC12669 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ D.D.S. 12/06/2006 MEDICAL MALPRACTICE

  379. graemebird Says:

    No thats not right. That he is withholding information is proof that he’s a usurper. Also the dearth of evidence putting him in any Hawaiian hospital points to his Kenyan birth.

  380. DH Says:

    “The case of Orly Taitz and Phillip Bergs is the case for reason, rationality, vigilance, lawfulness, and respect for the Republic and the greatest and most noble human experiment ever undertaken in the history of mankind.”

    Yes. Orly Taitz is a completely rational human being.c Here she is calling for the US Attorney General, Solicitor General, Director of the FBI, Director of the Secret Service, and the Supreme Court guilty of “aiding and abetting this massive fraud, treason and all the other related crimes and they will need to be prosecuted and punished to the full extend of the law” (by which I think she means executed).

    http://defendourfreedoms.us/2009/04/01/i-need-volunteers-to-make-phone-calls.aspx

  381. DH Says:

    And Dr Taitz doesn’t seem to be a much better lawyer than she is a dentist, with a string of medical malpractice suits dating back to 1993, and verified at the Orange County Superior Court in Claifornia:

    https://ocapps.occourts.org/CivilPubv2/Login.do

    718165 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 09/30/1993 MALPRACTICE – DENTAL

    S41640 RESPONDENT ORLY TAITZ 02/27/1998 SMALL CLAIMS APPEAL

    00CC11017 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 09/14/2000 MALPRACTICE – DENTAL

    03CC04813 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 03/25/2003 MALPRACTICE-MEDICAL

    03CC12382 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 10/10/2003 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

    03CC12364 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 10/09/2003 MALPRACTICE – DENTAL

    04CC05196 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 04/23/2004 BREACH OF CONTRACT/WARRANTY

    04CC06308 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ 05/28/2004 CONTRACT – SPEC PERFORMANCE

    AP14265 APPELLANT ORLY TAITZ 12/16/2004 MISC COMPLAINTS – OTHER

    05CC12538 DEFENDANT ORLY TAITZ D.D.S 11/23/2005 MALPRACTICE-MEDICAL

  382. graemebird Says:

    HUH!!!!!! Busted lying. Your link reveals no such thing. You are a liar I sez.

  383. DH Says:

    Graeme, it’s you that have just been busted.

    All you have to do is accept the terms of use and do a person search for Orly Taitz. All the cases come up.

    Or haven’t you figured out how to use a computer yet?

  384. Fyodor Says:

    No thats not right. That he is withholding information is proof that he’s a usurper.

    No, withholding information does not make one a usurper. That is a truly bizarre and completely muddle-headed notion.

    Also the dearth of evidence putting him in any Hawaiian hospital points to his Kenyan birth.

    There’s a dearth of evidence that you were born in a Hawaiian hospital, Turkey. That doesn’t make you any more Kenyan than Obama.

    You have not produced a single shread of credible EVIDENCE that Obama was born in Kenya. You have failed utterly in substantiating your delusional case and we can only conclude that you lied.

  385. graemebird Says:

    It just shows how easy it is for you zombies to get sucked in. You had nothing in the last few days besides BRAND NAMES.

    You had two brand names. You had the “economist” brand name and the “frontpage” brand name. These are superb brand names.

    But they aren’t evidence so lets see some evidence hey dummies.

  386. 1554 Says:

    no Bird… it doesn’t show anything of the sort. Show us the evidence you fat fuck.

  387. graemebird Says:

    Busted lying as I said. I went to your link and there wasn’t this information you claimed there was.

    Try again.

  388. graemebird Says:

    So no evidence then?

    And absence of evidence is evidence for the alternative case.

    You lose.

  389. graemebird Says:

    Well Cambria you stupid bootnigger cunt?

    You ‘ve got nothing. That whole 3 day pack-animal superconfidence was based on nothing.

    Our guys have named a hospital. So its just a matter of calling up the hospital and asking for their records. And if they are not available…. well what is that telling you?

  390. Genghis Sun Says:

    Dear god

    Bird has suffered a nervous breakdown. Now he’s rabbiting on about aliens landing in ancient Sumeria (i.e. Iraq)

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/03/jason-martel-and-the-annunaki-the-importance-of-listening-to-the-reasonable-advocates-of-allegedly-crazy-ideas/

  391. Genghis Sun Says:

    From Bird’s latest lunacy

    The crazy idea we are talking about this very day is THE LEGEND OF THE ANNUNAKI!!!!!

    And the faultlessly rational advocate of this idea is a fine young man called JASON MARTEL.

    Embarrassment is not a form of cognition. And that there are terrible racists and hopelessly irrational nutballs that also talk about THE LEGEND OF THE ANNUNAKI…….. well that is neither here nor there …

    But what I would say is that to look for signs of Ancient Astronauhts arriving in a primitive outpost, we look for the economics specific to faraway outpost. Technology used on the fly regresses a thousand years even for the technologically profficient interlopers. For an ancient astronauht to function in stupidtown a million miles from the back-of-Burke he needs plentiful cheap energy. He’s got energy to burn. He’s got the equivalent of 5c per gallon fuel of some sort. Thats a given or he wouldn’t be there.

    But he is always short of capital goods and labour and his technology is always in danger of degradation, since unlike the science fiction stories we have handed to us, the truth is that technology is embedded in capital update. The extent of your capital goods is dependent on global trade. And a high-tech coterie landing amidst primitive tribal people billions of miles from home, therefore find themselves with special economic difficulties and so the way they do things will reflect that.

    The Birdman has well and truly lost it this time.

    Does anyone know where he live? Someone should call up the mental asylum to take him away.

  392. 1554 Says:

    I wish the ancient astronauts would come and take you away, Bird. However I’m sure they’d run out of fuel back to their planet as a result of your obesity.

    You lunatic.

  393. DH Says:

    “Busted lying as I said. I went to your link and there wasn’t this information you claimed there was.”

    I welcome anyone to trundle off over to the website of the Orange County Superior Court in California, and check out the medical malpractice suits in which Orly Taitz features as a defendant dating from 1993:

    https://ocapps.occourts.org/CivilPubv2/Login.do

    And Graeme, your failure to follow the search instructions doesn’t count as me being ‘busted’.

  394. graemebird Says:

    This idea of an Hawaiian birth is exactly akin to the virgin birth. In that it could not have happened and in that this notion is entirely faith-based.

  395. Genghis Sun Says:

    It had to happen.

    The fat fuck has turned Truther and joins other fat fucks like Michael Moore

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/controlled-demolition-isnt-administration-involvement/

  396. 1554 Says:

    You sound surprised about that , Sun. It’s a natural progression really. I more or less expected this any time. in fact I’m shocked it took so long.

  397. graemebird Says:

    So still nothing on this faith-based Hawaiian birth. Or anything else?

    Everything entirely on a faith-based-basis. Jason even suggested that the Jews were involved in 9/11, even though the only evidence we have of a racial basis of any of the participants was that they were Arabs.

    Does anyone have evidence of anyone not an Arab involving themselves in 9/11?

  398. Genghis Sun Says:

    Graeme
    you’re truly a stoopid stoopid lying fat lardarsed obese fuckhead aren’t you?

    yes you are

  399. graemebird Says:

    When you say Jews what do you mean Soon? Israeli intelligence? Rich American Jews?

    You must know something I don’t. Because from a racial point of view while others may have been involved, so far the evidence points to Arabs.

  400. 1554 Says:

    Bird;

    It’s you that needs to present the evidence. Now shows us the evidence or STFU.

  401. Genghis Sun Says:

    Listen up you fat fuck.

    The point is that now that you are a Truther you are on the same side as those who think the JOOOS were behind 9/11

    Capice?

    BTW you make your twin Lambert look like an Adonis

  402. DH Says:

    More fun facts:

  403. DH Says:

    I also have shocking news on the newspaper birth announcement front. I can verify that the advertisements were not placed by either Obama’s parents or grandparents, as claimed by Bird, but by the Hawaii Department of Health:

    “The numerous birth announcements above and below the Obama listing also were identical in both papers, which were unaffiliated, competing publications.

    Advertiser columnist and former Star-Bulletin managing editor Dave Shapiro was not at either paper in 1961, but he remembers how the birth notices process worked years later when both papers were jointly operated by the Hawaii Newspaper Agency — which no longer exists.

    “Those were listings that came over from the state Department of Health,” he said. “They would send the same thing to both papers.”

    http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20081109/NEWS01/811090361/-1/specialobama08

  404. Genghis Sun Says:

    Is there any EVIDENCE that the obese lardball hasn’t been paid by the Spartacist League to discredit the right?

    PS Graeme, you make your twin Lambert look like an Adonis

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  406. graemebird Says:

    Yeah it is a shame that I’ve grown uglier than Lambert. But there you are. Notice that all of my arguments above are sound and reasonable and that you have no answer to them. I don’t estimate that this Anunaki story has wings. Since I estimate that inter-stella visitation would be a once every millions of years event. And so unlikely to be so recent. But its not possible for me to dismiss it outright since I cannot properly judge the quality of the source material.

  407. graemebird Says:

    There is still no evidence that Obama was born in Hawaii. None. No evidence has emerged for this fantasy. So two years on your thesis appears to be bullshit. There was only two main hospitals in Hawaii at the time. He has never been admitted, under that name, to either of them. However a Bari Shabazz has been admitted to one of those hospitals.

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