McCarthy: Communist

Commenter DH has got the goods on McCarthy

a) Lied publicly to advance totalitarian forces in Europe against American interests.
b) Sided with enemy forces against American soldiers.
c) Falsely accused American officials of crimes.
d) Took up this tainted cause at least in part because of heavy financial support from an ultra-right-wing German-American businessman in Wisconsin.
e) Managed to help both Nazis and communists at once, a feat rarely seen since the end of the Hitler-Stalin pact.

and

He was a total liar. A complete fraud. Probably also a secret communist in my estimation.

Now, does anyone have evidence against the idea that McCarthy was a closet communist?

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258 Responses to “McCarthy: Communist”

  1. graemebird Says:

    These are all silly lies. I’ve seen a link to Greenspun. But its just a gunsmuggler baiting McCarthy. McCarthy probably left on the grounds that he knew he’d made a mistake and had lost his temper. What else is the point of this story?

    Leftists appear to think examples of their own pack-animal behaviour are of a transcendent nature.

    So McCarthy makes a verbal mistake, and calls a convicted criminal something by accident, this by the stories own admission, that it was a verbal mistake. He loses his temper. Knows he’s losing his temper (if it was later on he could have been hung over) and then decides to leave on the grounds that he’s been successfully baited.

    What else is the significance of this story. Beyond Greenspun playing to the leftist crowd?

  2. JC Says:

    Really, so bird has the pic of a commie, nazi sympathizer as his avatar? No surprise there.

  3. graemebird Says:

    You stupid boot nigger cunt. Yeah right. So now the idiots side of every argument filibuster now reckons that Joseph McCarthy was a communist.

    You coterie of hardcore cronyists and leftists most realise that third parties read this gear and they know you are morons, people of narrow vision, and of mean spirit.

    So here we have a straight leftist-reversal. As if I haven’t been lecturing on leftist tactics these three years.

  4. JohnZ Says:

    Does anyone have any evidence? Anything at all to suggest McCarthy wasn’t a communist?

  5. Mark Hill Says:

    Mc Carthy accused the army at large of treachery. He was basically a gutless wanker.

    Thank God America told him to buzz off before he lead a campaign of Communist witch hunting to the White House. He was an unprincipled fool who was initially elected to Congress with the support of a Communist controlled electrician/electronics union.

    Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy were much more experienced and in the end, better able to fight Communism than that shit bird Mc Carthy. None of them forged commendations about themselves.

  6. Mark Hill Says:

    Mc Carthy was an evil Nazi bastard:

    “In an incident for which he would be widely criticized, McCarthy lobbied for the commutation of death sentences given to a group of Waffen-SS soldiers convicted of war crimes for carrying out the 1944 Malmedy massacre of American prisoners of war. McCarthy was critical of the convictions because of allegations of torture during the interrogations that led to the German soldiers’ confessions. He charged that the U.S. Army was engaged in a coverup of judicial misconduct, but never presented any evidence to support the accusation.[18] Shortly after this, a poll of the Senate press corps voted McCarthy “the worst U.S. senator” currently in office”

  7. DH Says:

    Based on his defense of a man who did his best to wreck the effective functioning of the US government at a time of great peril, and that man’s support for SS Nazis who murdered American troops, I think it’s possible that Bird may also be a communist.

    It’s time we had a good look at his record to see if he’s actually some sort if fifth-columnist who’s been trying to throw everyone off the scent.

  8. Genghis Sun Says:

    Is there any EVIDENCE that the obese lardball hasn’t been paid by the Spartacist League to discredit the right?

    PS Graeme, you make your twin Lambert look like an Adonis

  9. JC Says:

    I’m actually thinking that Bird is a commie agitator. In fact I’ve always had that at the back of my mind.

    The fat fuck could have been sent over to simply cause havoc over the webtubes like his adoration of this drunk.

  10. Genghis Sun Says:

    Yeah JC the fat fuck is probably to the far left of Mark Bahnisch.

  11. DH Says:

    Yes, I think it’s now pretty evident that Bird worships at the altar of Stalin.

  12. Genghis Sun Says:

    Graeme’s latest enthusiasm

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/08/this-is-dog-on-sirius/

    <i.Robert Temple isn’t assuming genetic fiddling by fish-tailed foreigners to our solar system. But he thinks there must have been a visitation by strange aliens at some stage. In this theory he is working on the basis of secondary sources. French anthropoligists in Africa who had studied the Dogon tribe …

    What happened is Temple got hold of some information about an African tribe that reckoned their distant ancestors had been visited by aliens from Sirius. Or at least that was the French anthropologists interpretation. Now Sirius is visible in the night sky. But these Africans specified Sirius B. Which is not visible and wasn’t discovered until the late 19th century

  13. DH Says:

    Aliens again. You really do have to marvel at his constant willingness to make public his unbridled ignorance and stupidity on just about everything.

    Do you think that perhaps ‘Graeme Bird’ doesn’t really exist and that this has all been a decade long experiment in conceptual performance art?

  14. 1554 Says:

    It could be a spambot, DH, a big fat one

  15. graemebird Says:

    “McCarthy was critical of the convictions because of allegations of torture during the interrogations that led to the German soldiers’ confessions. ”

    Sounds like a very good call to me. What does Kodjo think about it? This would be a good acid test to see if he really is an evil bastard.

    You cannot torture people AND sentence them to death. That would be the ultimate violation of sound principles of justice.

  16. graemebird Says:

    http://www.scrapbookpages.com/DachauScrapbook/DachauTrials/MalmedyMassacre02.html

  17. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    Birdy,

    Your latest enthusiasm about a visitation by strange aliens at some stage in our planet’s history shows that you share a fundamental trait with creationists. Namely the confusion between an idea and a scientific theory. Anyone can have an idea while brushing his teeth, but it takes a lot of work to propose and defend a scientific theory.

  18. graemebird Says:

    No thats all nonsense. You focus too much on belief. I only focus on evidence. But since you focus so much on belief I can tell you that I’m not a believer in the idea that we have been visited recently.

    Fundamentally you take an occult view of the situation. The occult view you have is that you can know things that you cannot possibly know. Since we only know stuff via evidence and reason.

    You are a very stupid bootnigger Cambria.

  19. 1554 Says:

    Bird could be right about aliens visitations
    http://images.google.com.au/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ldp.org.au/images/GraemeBird_web.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ldp.org.au/Candidates.html&usg=__D25GwAkQ3c9FH-4wg5E3cpjZfnk=&h=150&w=116&sz=26&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=dkhMIcirpgVVxM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=74&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgraeme%2Bbird%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

  20. 1554 Says:

  21. Genghis Sun Says:

    Here’s an alien who makes Lambert look like Brad Pitt

    http://www.grods.com/post/5570/

  22. jc Says:

    Steady on there. Lambert even being in the same sentence with brad Pitt is wrong. Just so, so wrong.

  23. graemebird Says:

    This is all very cruel. I remember telling Jason in person that my face had got fatter than Lamberts. And of course that photo is worse than the reality most of the time. But not that much worse. I needed to change my contacts for one thing. Needed a lot more sleep. Those huge bags under my eyes. For some reason Leyonhelm wanted a photo and I had kept stalling on it. And then I was too late and needed to take it though I knew I looked unwell.

    I think I’d need botox, and six months off just to read and join a swimming squad to even look halfway decent again. I don’t feel I’ve looked any good in the last ten years actually. Cambria’s an idiot. But there is no question he’s kept his act together on the personal appearance side of things. The Cambria mind has grown shabby. But outwardly he still holds it together. Like some sort of mummified Joe 90. After the last year of unrighteousness though, you’d have to wonder about how the portrait in the attic looks.

    I take some comfort strangely and partly delusionally no doubt from the wonderful scientist Dr Marohasy. You can see her one month and she’ll look like just a normal middle-aged woman. And then a few months later you’ll catch a picture of her and she’ll look terffic. And ex-model or something. It must be that you evil leftist anti-scientists wear her down with your abuse or tacit approval of same.

  24. graemebird Says:

    “d) Took up this tainted cause at least in part because of heavy financial support from an ultra-right-wing German-American businessman in Wisconsin.”

    Can anyone tell me what this means? What does ultra-right-wing mean in this context? In those days ultra-right-wing meant a former isolationist. Someone who cared about their fellow Americans enough to want to stay out of the war. For my part I believe in the Wellington (Wellesley) -Reagan strategy. And in the spirit of my favourite Churchill speech. The one where he says:

    “Give us the tools
    and we’ll finish the JOP”

    I misspelled that on purpose because thats the way Churchill said it. In retrospect it looks like it would have been better if the Americans had taken a Reaganesque approach. Not just in retrospect. What am I saying. You look after your own people first. You may have to fight but if you do your first committment is to your own soldiers. A small volunteer army, that stayed away from the frontlines, and pretty strong materiel support but only to people you can trust. You have to keep your best men home, since if you don’t the socialists will use the occasion as an opportunity to screw everything up for everyone and murder millions of people.

    You have to be able to deploy massively in order to be able to warn the opposition against continuing its holocausts and wars of extermination, and against attacking your people directly. You have to give the opposition an OUT in most cases. Unless the decision has come to destroy the regime leadership.

  25. graemebird Says:

    What does one mean by “ultra-right-wing”. I should think that one wants contributions from righteous rich people that are ultra-right-wing. And given the communist-dominated Washingtons vindicative wishes to annhilate all things German the first order of business was to stop this hateful visciou vindictive communist-party dictated murder.

    Destroying regime leadership is a duty of mankind sometimes. But killing pawns is petty vengeance. And the Christians tell us that Vengeance belongs to the almighty alone. And that we ought not act like some oriental animals on horseback once the war is truly won.

  26. Genghis Sun Says:

    you hate Churchill since he supported Operation Keelhaul

    why quote him, you lying fraud?

  27. Genghis Sun Says:

    History: “Waffen-SS soldiers convicted of war crimes for carrying out the 1944 Malmedy massacre of American prisoners of war”

    Graeme Montgomery Bird: “pawns”

    Conclusion: GMB is a Nazi sympathiser who gets off putting on German uniforms and being violated by a gay skinhead

  28. graemebird Says:

    I don’t hate Churchill. People who know me know that I’ve always been something of a Churchill fan.

    But this was in the top-ranking most despicable war crimes ever. And what I do know is that the Americans didn’t have their backs against the wall and so the Washington coterie that did it are definitely guilty as sin. Churchills position is more ambiguous and so far I haven’t heard the case for the defense.

  29. graemebird Says:

    Well you mention Churchill and you don’t mention Alger Hiss. You mention SS and you don’t mention Cossacks or Spanish Catholics. You mention people engaged in the fighting and you don’t mention their sisters, non-fighting brothers, their women and their children.

    But you cannot escape the fact that for two years now I’ve asked you to disavow your support of the mass-murder of innocents, of civilians, of women and children, after the war is already won, and for absolutely no fucking reason at all.

    So you are barbarian Mongol scum. And we have to be careful about importing more of you thats for sure.

  30. Mark Hill Says:

    “And then a few months later you’ll catch a picture of her and she’ll look terffic. And ex-model or something. It must be that you evil leftist anti-scientists wear her down with your abuse or tacit approval of same.”

    Graeme spuriking skin care: *Argeuriline can stop visible signs of aging, such as leftist reversal filibuster and rightwing tacit approval”

    You’re a friggen idiot. The Americans should have Nov 5 observed as Joe Mc Carthy night.

    “In retrospect it looks like it would have been better if the Americans had taken a Reaganesque approach.”

    Come on now Graeme. This hero worship is getting steadily deleterious. Regan didn’t have the balls to do what tat incompetent fool, GW Bush had the sense to do – regime change.

    Now you are simply lying. No one supported torture here. What you seem to be saying is that an incompetent interrogator absolves you of war crimes such as mass murder. It does not. It simply makes the torturer liable for a lengthy prison sentence. The Malmedy gang were rightfully executed.

  31. JohnZ Says:

    No no no.

    Evidence. It was EVIDENCE that McCarthy was not a communist that we were after.

  32. graemebird Says:

    But Reagan DID practice regime-change. He planned and carried out the take-down of the Soviet Union. And he did it with 7000 ICBM’s pointing at him.

    Marvellous work. We have to be more like him and Wellesly.

    But unlike early 19th Century Britain and Late twentieth century America, anything we want to do we want to do it only with 100% commodity-backed money.

  33. graemebird Says:

    And the early 19th Century Brits too. That was all regime-change. Thats the entire plan.

    Nelson places some tongs on an angle. As this visual demonstration is going on Nelson is saying that it doesn’t matter which way I place these tongs….. but (he picks them up again) if Bonaparte places them (he puts them at 90 degrees) THIS way, then I was place them (he puts them back the other way) LIKE SO.

    You see. It was the Bonaparte takedown but with a responsible government that did its best to not get their people killed. Reagan got fuck all Americans killed on his watch. And not many of his more important allied soldiers killed either. It was just OUTSTANDING and I watched every minute of it and cannot understand why it is that no-one learned from the old man.

    Wellington had Bonaparte bogged down in Spain. The British Navy had his Coast blocked all the way. He was too scared to take them on at sea. He was right to be scared.

    Only when they already had the chips in their favour did the British confront him head on. And only after Bonaparte had escaped the island and made a comeback through sheer bluff-artistry.

    Then Wellington took the Master of the Field on directly. And he took him down and the French have never menaced English-Speakers in a more than annoying way to this very day.

  34. MB Says:

    “You mention SS and you don’t mention Cossacks or Spanish Catholics. You mention people engaged in the fighting and you don’t mention their sisters, non-fighting brothers, their women and their children.”

    Graeme seems to have a lot of sympathy for the families of Cossacks, Spanish Catholics, and the Waffen-SS, and none for the families of allied troops murdered by them.

  35. Mark Hill Says:

    “But unlike early 19th Century Britain and Late twentieth century America, anything we want to do we want to do it only with 100% commodity-backed money.”

    What the fuck does have to do with anything?!

  36. DH Says:

    Good grief. Now he’s imagining some incident involving Lord Nelson and tongs. The batshit just gets crazier.

  37. Mark Hill Says:

    LOL

    Since the Napoleonic Wars, England/Britain has been an ally of France.

    With Graeme’s logic, we can conclude that being a menace and getting our butt kicked in the end is good for our well being.

  38. Mark Hill Says:

    I dunno Graeme. What about the Vichy French fighting the Commonwealth and The US?

    Granted they were not the true French, but your excuses for a lack of regime change etc do not cover the unfortunate fighting and real threats that were present to the US and Comm. servicemen.

  39. graemebird Says:

    “I dunno Graeme. What about the Vichy French fighting the Commonwealth and The US?”

    Churchill destroyed their Navy stationed on the African Coast early on. This when Roosevelt was still trying to negotiate with Vichy. Nominally speaking Vichy was still Churchills ally. He destroyed a big chunk of their navy anyhow right there and then. I don’t know how many young French soldiers he killed. I don’t think he warned them at all. Just up and killed them.

    Churchill had gone into battle with a superior adversary. And actually he’d already been militarily defeated. Some commentators are pretty sure that Hitler could have slaughtered far more at Dunkirk and purposely did not do so, so as to stay open to compromise with the British Empire which he was an admirer of.

    Anyway Churchill did this. When these kids had been his allies but weeks before. They must have been banging on the walls and screaming for their Mothers before they died.

    So let us never ever get into a fair fight again. Fair fights are never good fights. But as nasty as this seems I cannot help but almost admire that level of ruthlessness at that stage of the war. As one commentator said “It sent the message that the old man meant business” or some pretty close quote to that.

    But this is at a time when the entire British Isles was in the balance and Britain was pretty much alone in the field. The Western Europeans hadn’t put up any sort of spirited fight and had at least partly been seduced by the Nazis I think. She fought and beat her fists a bit but in the end she pretty much lay down for it.

    So I’ll accept THAT sort of harsh ruthlessness. But what I will not accept is Jason Soon claiming that murdering women and children is just fine and according to Hoyles, to do the bidding of a psychopath, when the war is already won.

    And you have to put pressure on him behind the scenes. You have to tell him that if he wants to be an Australian that sort of ghoulishness and horrorshow commie advocacy is not on.

    And thats the way its going to be and its always going to be that way.

    In answer to your question the Vichy French were not a real big problem to us after that. I don’t want to be flippant to anyone who had relatives killed or wounded by them. But my broad statement I think was right. In the overall scheme of things I don’t think they amounted to too much.

  40. Genghis Sun Says:

    Which women and children were killed in Keelhaul? The people were surrendered over but weren’t only the soliders killed?

  41. MB Says:

    Only someone with as warped and fundamentally ignorant view of history as Graeme could consider Vichy “Churchills ally” when in fact Vichy was a Nazi puppet state.

    The guy’s clearly a Nazi sympathiser who has nothing but tears of pity for our adversaries.

  42. DH Says:

    Only someone with as warped and fundamentally ignorant view of history as Graeme could consider Vichy “Churchills ally” when in fact Vichy was a Nazi puppet state.

    The guy’s clearly a Nazi sympathiser who has nothing but tears of pity for our adversaries.

  43. graemebird Says:

    Hundreds of thousands of Soviet Citizen refugees were in Europe when the war ended. It would be very strange had this not been the case. Refugees always fled from warzones and matters are different from now where borders are heavily guarded, papers are universally requested, and the Americans are dropping food packages from the air. It must be understood that the situation was like a much bigger version of the denouement of ‘Nam. Far moreso since far more people could leave by foot from the Soviet Union then could smuggle gold up their ass and find a boat to get on and get out of the hell-hole of Vietnam.

    So their were hundreds of thousands of these people with their families in Europe who were technically Soviet Citizens. But we never hear about their story. And thats because we murdered them all.

  44. graemebird Says:

    “Only someone with as warped and fundamentally ignorant view of history as Graeme could consider Vichy “Churchills ally” when in fact Vichy was a Nazi puppet state.”

    Idiotic and retrospective thinking. Since Vichy was at that point only weeks in existence and still portraying themselves as representative of France and after all they had a case for it. You apparently would have known more than Roosevelt since he was still trying to woo them as if they were France. But Churchill was made of sterner stuff and turned around and murdered all these kids who had weeks before been his allies.

    As I say this may well be a war crime. I can deal with that sort of ruthlessness in an even rumble to the death which is always going to be very vicious.

    But I’ll not tolerate anyone in our midsts that is talking about the mass-slaughter of POW’s, refugees, and their families.

  45. MB Says:

    “But I’ll not tolerate anyone in our midsts that is talking about the mass-slaughter of POW’s”

    Except when they’re allied POW’s, apparently.

  46. graemebird Says:

    What the fuck are you talking about?

    I’ll not tolerate anyone going in for murdering POW’s. Not allied. Not enemy. Not anyone.

    You murder regime leadership just as soon as you can find a tree and the people can make the noose. You imprison a lot of bad actors in a truth and reconcilliation sort of deal with almost ridiculously lenient sentences if they tell the whole story. You execute just a handfull of the really super-sadistic actors that were not top leadership but only after trial and proof and only in the first few months. After that you may hunt for decades some people that escaped truth and reconcilliation. But they are to serve short prison sentences and social humiliation only.

    The killing must come to a dead stop in months. Killing must never be normal. Thats one of the reasons you have to get the bigshots swinging from a rope early on, or some green twine or the brown twine if you cannot get hold of it.

    The killing must stop early on.

    We are not animals you know.

    No matter what these environmentalists and leftist atheists might think about us. (echo Vito).

  47. graemebird Says:

    Actually this was one of the points the very young young young Helen Skeptic was making when she had suddenly found success and hadn’t come clean on her pseudonym. I mean yes the kid had a lot of things wrong. And yes she was, as far as I can make out from secondary sources, wrongly blaming Jews for their persecution. But I seem to remember one of the main points she was trying to make was that the vindictiveness had to stop.

  48. graemebird Says:

    So are you guys now FINALLY beginning to twig? Are you now finally seeing the backdrop to what this good Irish Catholic Boy was about?

    We cannot ever let our atheistic outlook convince us that we are just animals and that its OK to act that way.

    There must have been some reason why we murdered all those people. There must be some reason why we copied the person we were committed to destroying.

    And there WAS a reason for that. It wasn’t the vile corruption of people living in the mid-West of America. These were warm-hearted and good people uncorrupted by the war.

    It was the cultural control of the leftists in Washington and perhaps some of the media and bighshots in New York….. thats what must have lead to this Stalinist-Hitlerite mass-murder on our part.

    So will you NOW take McCarthy seriously.

    Surely by now you must be beginning to join the dots.

  49. graemebird Says:

    Look I have no real patience for hard-core anti-semitism. A little bit of local bigotry towards my Jewish friends, well I reserve the right to be as bigoted as I wannabe.

    But I just cannot get with this leftist nastiness towards Helen. I really can’t. Because I think she was just a kid trying to figure out what all this mindless killing was about. And so she didn’t get the perfectly right answer first up.

    But you pricks haven’t learnt a damn thing about it even now. I really feel bad that this country has persecuted this young girl. And as an artist you cannot be self-conscious like that. You cannot be worrying that the persecution will start again if one of your bad characters says something nasty.

  50. DH Says:

    Two propositions:

    a) Bad: Hard-core anti-semitism
    b) Good: A little bit of local bigotry

    Discuss.

  51. graemebird Says:

    Yeah . Go right ahead. Discuss it. Thats a good idea.

    Since the fellows who are always trying to catch conservatives out on some sort of gotcha moment are also the ghoulish communist bastards that are attempting to get the Israelis beautiful little children murdered.

    Yest discuss it.

    Thats a good idea.

    I’ve explained it before. The university dum dum cliche was out there that you could run down Israel and be pro-Jew. Anti-Israel and Pro-Jew.

    Once I was excluded from a swimming club in East ST Kilda and I’m allowed to be unhappy about that. But what I’m not OK about doing is getting out in public and bitching about them putting a fence up.

    Because thats to stop fascists like you murdering their kids.

    So I’m saying its the other way around. I’ll be as bigoted as I wannabe. But I’ll not sit still for this constant baiting of Israel to compromise here defensive position.

    Thats where I draw the line with you murdering ghouls.

  52. DH Says:

    “Once I was excluded from a swimming club in East ST Kilda…”

    Wild, unfounded, speculation welcome.

  53. graemebird Says:

    Not at all. I showed up at my local swimming pool in Acland street, asked the fellow about the swimming club and he told me straight that I have to be Jewish to join. Thats the Alpha and Omega of this whole story. And I remember getting really pissed on and thinking that “these people” were asking for trouble.

    Thats it.

    I didn’t break anything.

  54. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    Birdy,

    “Once I was excluded from a swimming club in East ST Kilda …”

    Why am I not surprised? It’s quite obvious that your offensive behavior is not limited to the internet.

    What were you doing?
    a/ Trying to film women taking a shower.
    b/ Showing your tiny dick to little girls in the locker room?
    c/ Shitting in the pool?
    d/ All of the above?

  55. Carlos Says:

    The university dum dum cliche was out there that you could run down Israel and be pro-Jew. Anti-Israel and Pro-Jew.

    There are a large number of Israeli Jews who are anti-IDF and yet ‘pro-Jew’, whatever the hell that means.

    Look, the Bible says the Hebrews can’t eat pork.

    My admittedly allegorical interpretation is that ‘the Hebrews’ means everybody, ‘eat’ means ‘interact sensibly with’, and
    ‘pork’ means Graeme Bird.

  56. graemebird Says:

    So what is your point? Either they have valid complaints about the IDF or they are mad leftists. What is your reasoning there idiot? You think that the Jews don’t also have their own mad leftists? And where is your evidence that such people are supportive of Jews more generally? That doesn’t make any sense. We have our own stupid Australians scuttling us from within. And they have their people doing the same.

    Get yourself a proper argument you evil ghoulish cunt. You think its funny having Carlos as a gravitar? Thats funny hey? Real respectful of his victims hey?

    You are just scum mate.

  57. graemebird Says:

    I was excluded on the basis that I wasn’t Jewish. I made an enquiry as soon as I moved to East St Kilda. I moved out of the area not long after. When I made the enquiry I’d likely been for about two swims but never when the swimming club was around. The swimming pool was a private one. And it has been under different management. I got offered a job at that same pool 7 years later but was on my way to Brisbane.

    You are just making idiots of yourselves. There was no non-Jewish member of that swimming club. It was the first time I’d encountered religious/racial discrimination of this sort and so I was offended. Its doubtful that I’d be offended by this sort of thing now.

  58. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    Your lying!

    Everybody knows you are a pervert. The debate has moved on.

    Show the evidence you didn’t film women while they were showering, and that you didn’t show your tiny dick to little girls in the locker room, and that you didn’t poop in the pool.

    Making up stories won’t save you.

  59. graemebird Says:

    No you are lying. No non-Jews were members of that swimming club. I don’t really know if I would have wanted to join. I cannot remember whether I would have been bigoted about joining or not. But the fact is I couldn’t join. And I remember being offended about it since Melbourne was only the second Australian City I’d been to and I’d never encountered such a thing before.

    This sort of mild and short-lived offense is not on the same scale as killing peoples children. Which is why the true anti-semitism can be seen in those trying to advocate compromising Israels defensive position.

  60. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    You’re lying you stupid bootnigger cunt!

    I told you the debate has moved on. We know you filmed women while they were showering, and that you showed your tiny dick to little girls in the locker room, and that you pooped in the pool.

    Unless you can show evidence to the contrary those are FACTS.

  61. graemebird Says:

    No you are lying. It was news to me that in modern Australia that there were exclusively Jewish clubs. Since I’d never encountered it before I was quite dumbfounded and offended. The whole incident lasted about 30 seconds. I doubt that I’d be offended by this now although its dangerous to have a one-sided thing like this. If Christians and Anglos excluded Jews, Vietnamese or blacks from the various clubs they were running they would be hauled up before some tribunal or other. So we need to have consistent laws and property rights.

  62. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    You’re filibustering again, you cock sucking, fist fucked pervert pig!

    No specious arguments or unbelievable stories are going to distract us from the core of this story which shows what degenerated sheep rapist you are.

    We know you filmed women while they were showering, and that you showed your tiny dick to little girls in the locker room, and that you pooped in the pool.

    Unless you can show evidence to the contrary those are FACTS.

  63. graemebird Says:

    No what happens is white Australians are always being baited as racists. That is to say Anglo-Saxons and Anglo-Saxon-Romano-Celts and so forth. But when it comes down to it they seldom have organisations that exlude anyone where as other people do. I hadn’t seen that before and so I remember it was a bit of a shock. The whole thing may have lasted 30 seconds. But since I wasn’t native to Melbourne it really was a bit of a slap in the face.

    And inconvenience too. But I ended up joining the Richmond swimming club and was a member until I wound up with my own swimming school. Several years in fact.

  64. RT Says:

    But I ended up joining the Richmond swimming club and was a member until I wound up with my own swimming school.

    You wouldn’t have been teaching young kids, would you? Didn’t Munn tell you to stay away from them?

  65. Genghis Sun Says:

    It’s pretty simple Graeme.

    Jews don’t eat pig.

    They figured you for a human-pig hybrid. If you’d gotten in their pool, your skin particles would have shedded there and they would’ve involuntarily ingested pig.

  66. graemebird Says:

    I told Munn to stay away from the kids. They must not have worried about me hanging around the kids too much because they gave me the club champion cup one year and the most improved cup in my first year I think. Either that or they put up with me for the sake of the relays.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    You might be right Jason. I don’t know. In that case they must think that way about all non-Jews. In which case I wouldn’t want to get near their Jew-Germs either. So its important to reserve the right to be as bigoted as you wannabe.

    But its your leftist mates wanting to get their kids killed that are the fascists that we cannot tolerate. You know the type. The sort of people who would support operational Keelhaul and other blatantly fascist endeavours.

  67. graemebird Says:

    Magnificent theory that McCarthy was a communist by the way (idiots).

  68. Genghis Sun Says:

    what an anti-semite you are.

    no wonder you have so much sympathy for the Waffen SS and the Keelhaul Fascists,

  69. graemebird Says:

    Incredible. You are STILL in favour of the mass-murder of women and children after the war is won. This is the subject you have been more consistent on than any other. Moreso than the inheritance tax, and the capital gains tax.

    So the economics training is merely a surface-level grafting on the unreformed fascist underneath.

  70. Genghis Sun Says:

    that’s right Graeme.

  71. graemebird Says:

    THAT IS RIGHT. An no time have you backed away from the mass-murder of women and children for Stalin. Uncle Joe you call him.

    So thats fascism. A more senseless mass-murder than Hitlers even. For no reason at all but to suck up to a foreign leader.

    Not once in three years have you expressed anything but 100% certainty that this was the right thing to do. And so you are, by your own admission, a fascist. There is no doubt about it. Even now you could back away from this holocaust denial and simultaneous support for this holocaust.

  72. graemebird Says:

    That goes for all commenters on this site. Not once have you expressed any second thoughts about this mass murder. Nor any understanding of someone who might want to stop socialists killing people every after that mass-murdering horror. This very thread is evidence for this.

  73. graemebird Says:

    This is the absolutely typical holocaust-denial going on by the contributers to this thread.

    On the one hand there is the denial that all the refugees were murdered, then there is the running of them down as each and every last one of them war criminals, and then on top of that there is the happiness that they were murdered. And all this wrapped up in a story to do with the cult of personality. In the case of the holocaust-denial to do with the German socialists its the cult of personality with regards to Hitler. And with the holocaust-denial to do with the various American-Socialists in Washingtin its the demonology of people like McCarthy and the cult of personality when it comes to people like Marshall and Roosevelt.

  74. graemebird Says:

    Bear in mind that Jason Soon has never accepted the reality of the DDT-bureaucratisation-Holocaust either. He and Cambria are Tim Lambert devotees in this regard.

  75. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    “…Jason Soon has never accepted the reality of the DDT-bureaucratisation-Holocaus”

    And right he is twit.

  76. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    And now our Birdy has a new heroin Rep Michelle Bachmann

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/10/3439/

    He really seems on a mission to make an inventory of nutty politicians.

    I am surprised he hasn’t yet made an exegesis of the “tea parties” FOX News is promoting.

  77. graemebird Says:

    It sounds like a good idea and is part of bringing back the heritage that made the Republic work. Nothing nutty about Michelle Bachman. You have no case there. Argument free as usual fatty.

  78. DH Says:

    What’s the bet that Birdbrain thinks David Irving is an ace historian?

  79. DH Says:

    “Nothing nutty about Michelle Bachman…”

    And, oddly enough, he cant even spell her name correctly. It’s ‘Michele Bachmann’ dummy.

  80. graemebird Says:

    Who cares? We all know who I’m talking about. I did afterall post a video with her in it.

    No I don’t think Irving is an ace historian. He’s like most leftist historians. At least he shows up in the archives which is something. But he’s a holocaust-denier. Like every single antagonist of mine on this very thread. Each and every one of you are holocaust deniers like David Irving.

    How was that for leftist-projection on your part fatty. Its a pathological problem on the left.

  81. DH Says:

    Come off it Graeme. You would would have to be one of the biggest anti-semites and holocaust deniers about.

  82. graemebird Says:

    No you are lying There is no doubt that the socialist Hitler murdered many of millions of people in the death camps.

    Just as there is no doubt that environmentalism murdered many millions of people through seizing and centralising control of DDT. Just as there is no doubt of the murders of Mao, Pol Pot, Lenin and others.

    Nor is there any doubt that environmentalist policies caused those fire deaths in Victoria.

    You want to be careful about your leftist projection fatty. It could have you beat up or hauled before court at any time.

  83. DH Says:

    Hey Graeme – seen the latest dirt on your insane hero Orly Taitz? Looks like she’s been exposed as a fraud:

    http://defendourfreedoms.net/2009/04/12/understanding-the-internet-102.aspx

  84. Dr Johnson Says:

    Don’t you imbeciles and children get sick of attempting to get the last word in? I obviously couldn’t read this entire thread. But nowhere do we see the left getting even a glancing blow against Mr Bird in these arguments. Its quite shocking also to find unrepentant holocaust deniers when it comes to operation keelhaul. To think that such people are so unashamed as to let their repulsive views onto the internet.

  85. Genghis Sun Says:

    Graeme Bird, Taliban sympathiser:

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/12/allied-war-effort-run-by-war-criminals-and-military-incompetents/#respond

    our behaviour in Afghanistan is all wrong, and in doing so I’ve shown, just what it is we ought to be doing, as a good ally, instead of continuing with this senselessness in Afghanistan

  86. Dr Johnson Says:

    I too have read that thread that Genghis Sun has linked too and there is nothing in it which suggests Mr Bird is a Taliban sympathiser. Another false accusation by the hard left on this grubby website.

  87. graemebird Says:

    Dr. Genghis Sun is actually Jason Soon. Jason Soon of Catallaxy. A compulsive liar and a make-believe libertarian. Who is in reality a hard leftist.

  88. DH Says:

    Don’t be misled Dr Johnson. Bird is actually a communist. Don’t listen to him.

  89. Genghis Sun Says:

    Let us all note that Graeme Bird is a communist along the lines of Peter Singer who believes that if you do not donate money to prevent starvation you responsible for killing the hungry person. Reason? His complaints about DDT are completely moot because at the end of the day the poor countries cannot afford to buy their own DDT so what he means by ‘ban'[ is really ‘not use our tax dollars as foreign aid to buy them DDT’

    Bird is a dirty communist who thinks Africans are entitled to our tax dollars

  90. graemebird Says:

    You are lying. I explained this exactly on my own blog. And yet even after explaining it, in anticipation of you trying on just this sort of gag, yet you go ahead.

    It just shows what a phoney you are. You might have pulled the same gag after Marshalls team betrayed one fourth of the human population to Stalin and Mao.

  91. graemebird Says:

    We can be sure of a few things about Mr Soon. For starters he’s a eugenicist. And secondly he is fullblown committed against Australian Sovereignty. He only is in favour of liberty for bizzare efficiency reasons and also to protect traitors.

    I anticipated and pre-empted your bullshit line of reasoning Jason.

    “Thats a pretty standard argument with hard leftists Jason. Its very much reminds me of people suddenly putting on the isolationist hat with the Stalin-Mao capture of China.

    You see Marshalls office made their ally sit on his hands when he could have destroyed Mao. But just when Chiang was himself in trouble they pulled aid so Mao could take over. And one supposes that people like you would have suddenly put on the libertarian-isolationist hat the minute the aid question came up. Like there was no history to the situation at all.

    We have to get to a situation of almost no foreign aid. But we don’t do so on the basis of giving leftists and holocaust-enablers strategic wins all over the place.”

    Thats the exact parallel to what you are saying here. You are lying since you know full well that I don’t think like Singer. And like all your thinking in this case its static-equilibrium so you cannot see the difference.

    It would be like finding libertarianism and a need for tax cuts just at that moment that Genghis Khan was breaching the walls of Peking (the same year our King John signed the Magna Carta).

    But then again perhaps you would not approve of such treachery if it happened…. RAPE SPAWN THAT YOU OBVIOUSLY ARE.

  92. graemebird Says:

    Well it was the Mongols. It might not have been Genghis his own self I’ll have to check. And your analysis always lacks the TIME FACTOR.

    So you would turn libertarian and not resupply our good friends in Taiwan after an attack. Even though they could have developed nukes on their own but for American assurances. And although a wider term free enterprise perspective would have meant they could have bought low-yield nukes.

    Thats where you are going with this. And yes though the government must reduce stealing every year it was wrong to increase stealing in 1963 and suddenly pull the rug out on DDT.

  93. graemebird Says:

    Right. I checked. The same year our man John was signing Magna Carta was the same year the Mongols took down Peking. And Genghis was indeed still in charge.

    This is pretty much symbolic of the difference between my attitudes and yours. You venerate your rapist forefathers and have become a full-blown closet eugenicist.

    I’ve fucking sussed you out fella.

  94. Genghis Sun Says:

    bulllshit Bird

    you’re a kumbaya singing hippie who wants to send all our tax dollars to the Africans and surrender to the Taliban savages when we should be nuking them all to hell and letting God sort them out

  95. Genghis Sun Says:

    I’m pro Taiwan

    Taiwan should be able to get all the thermonuclear gear it needs to launch a preemptive strike on Beijing if need be.

  96. Genghis Sun Says:

    Bird
    Please explain again why the Africans are entitled to subsidised DDT?

  97. graemebird Says:

    I never said they were. I have never advocated subsidies at any time you are lying.

  98. graemebird Says:

    You are lying about your support of Taiwan also. At another time you said it was a hopeless case and ought be surrendered.

    If you change your mind about something you ought let people know. Because you are a multiply suspect person for starters and you have been known to lie all the time.

  99. birdy-and-rph-lost-it Says:

    “I never said they were. I have never advocated subsidies at any time you are lying.”

    You can’t advocate use of DDT without thinking about funding. Besides, there is no such thing as a ban on DDT usage in tropical Africa. There has been a change in strategy to fight malaria in those regions because it was established that DDT alone doesn’t work. Mosquitoes became immune and the whole ecosystem took a beating.

  100. graemebird Says:

    I can so advocate the use of DDT without worrying about funding.

    You are such a chucklehead Jason.

  101. Gloria Says:

    Don’t you children get sick of being beaten constantly in debates with Mr Bird. Her wins all your arguments including the ones you vote on.

  102. Sarah Says:

    I’m into BBMs (Big Beautiful Men) and I think Mr Bird is a BBM of the first rank. That bald head and that chunky body full of junk makes my panties wet. As does his Nazism.

  103. DH Says:

    No, there’s where you’re wrong Gloria. Bird never wins any arguements. He’s way too unintelligent. In fact it’s a miracle he can even use a keyboard.

    Still if you can teach a parrot to mimic speech, then I suppose anything’s possible, even for somebody as mentally-challenged as Bird.

  104. MB Says:

    Ahem:

    “To use personification just for a moment, you have to send Mother Nature (”Lose the bra bitch, or I’ll cut ya”) a message. You have to grab her, slap her, make her beg, treat her like no laws allow, because Mother Nature is not an avenging Yahweh in drag but rather a Nazi bitch goddess.”

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/14/environmentalists-want-black-people-dead/

    Any psychiatrists out there?

  105. DH Says:

    “…I SHIT YOU NOT I’M NOT A HOMOSEXUAL…”

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2009/04/05/the-greatest-natural-born-american/#comment-23137

    He simply can’t stop lying.

  106. Mark Hill Says:

    “So you see these fucking grasshoppers eat the DDT in this story. And this fucking frog eats this motherload of DDT which is eternal. At least if you soak it in fat. And then the fucking trout comes along and he cannot stop eating frogs, complete cunt that he is. Frogs minding his own business and the trout just comes up and eats him like he has nothing better to do.”

    Hang the Trout!

  107. Daniel Westaway Says:

    Ruh Roh. Bird believes that the WTC was brought down by controlled demolition. But who might be behind such a fiendish plot?

    ” I sez it was foreigners. And I sez it might be the same foreigners who would help a usurper into power. The same foreigners who might be able to plant nuclear bombs in all of your cities.”

    Oh no! Kenyans?

  108. graemebird Says:

    I think that ex-Soviet assets must have been up for outsourcing during the 90’s. This is simply on the basis that I would not have thought anyone else was capable of putting this off.

  109. Carlos De Jackel Says:

    Bird;

    You need to get rid of that fat lardball from your site. She’s dragging you even further away from sanity.

  110. Bird is a fat cunt Says:

    That’s right. Phil has totally ruined him if that were ever possible.

    That overweight nasty slag has turned him into a crazed lunatic.

  111. THR Says:

    Bird is a revisionist crank like Viktor Suvorov, who is intent on re-writing history to suit his conspiracy theories.

    Explain yourself, Bird.

  112. Bird is a fat cunt Says:

    He’s a menace to history. In fact he should be put up before the International Court in the Hague for crimes against humanity.

  113. Bird Flaps Says:

    Bird, no one takes you seriously, even on your own trainwreck of a blog except for the tranny Phil and 1 or 2 others who appear to be just as delusional as you.

    You prove how far removed from reality you are with every abusive post you make on every single blog or forum that you infect.

    You are an absolute joke and laughing stock. Get professional help or preferably a lobotomy.

  114. Bird is a fat cunt Says:

    Bird flaps:

    That’s a little harsh on the country’s greatest historian 🙂

    The blame should primarily be directed at that ugly slag he’s now hanging around with.

  115. Uncle Charlie Says:

    Given the dubious predelictions of GMB’s few fans, and given his drooling response to them, maybe you should use the moniker ‘Bird Faps’.

  116. Carlos De Jackel Says:

    Uncle

    Do you mind if I use Carlos De Jackel as my moniker while you use my picture?

    I hope it doesn’t offend you in any way as that isn’t my intention at all. I never knew until recently that my picture was being used, which is why I began using that moniker.

  117. Uncle Charlie Says:

    Go in peace, my son.

  118. Bird Flaps Says:

    I thought Bird (according to him) was the greatest philosopher, scientist and economist. Now he is the greatest historian too?

  119. Carlos De Jackel Says:

    Yep, he’s a noted historian too. There’s just so much one can do with a computer.

    The only thing he can’t do is take off the extra 40 kilos.

    While on the subject of weight, I’ve been wondering if he’s played impale-the-whale with Phil?

  120. BirdLab Says:

    Not to put too fine a point on the matter, but Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt. Graeme Bird is a cunt.

    If you get my drift…

  121. BirdLab Says:

    Nicely argued over there Tillman.

    I think you’ve proven pretty conclusively that Bird is nothing more than a piece of degenerate, filthy, lying Nazi scum.

    Roosevelt and Churchill were the real heroes of WW2.

  122. Genghis Sun Says:

    don’t forget Uncle Joe, Lab

  123. Tillman Says:

    We need to get Bird posting at this place

    arthurkade.com

  124. BirdLab Says:

    Of course not Ghengis. Bless him.

  125. Bird is cunt Says:

    Of course we need Bird to post here.

    We also need that fat slut here too (to use a common vernacular by Bird) .

  126. Tillman Says:

    No I meant we need to get him posting at arthurkade.com. A bit of fractional reserve would liven that place up. I think he’d fit right in.

  127. Graeme Bird is a flaming homo into fat trannies named Phil Says:

    word

  128. Graeme Bird is a raving stupid fat cunt who fucks sheep Says:

    Plus what the previous commenter said

  129. Graeme Bird puts gerbils up his arse Says:

    yeah

  130. Graeme Bird prefers to be the bottom Says:

    you said it

  131. Graeme Bird enjoys oral sex with three-legged goats Says:

    I concur.

  132. Graeme Bird is a flaming tub of penguins Says:

    Yes. It’s all true.

  133. Graeme Bird's pet goat is a sibling, parent and wife Says:

    hallelujuah!

  134. Graeme Bird has the intelligence of a bucket of steaming koala shit, which he incidentally also enjoys eating. Says:

    Most perceptive comments.

  135. Bird is cunt Says:

    Wow, what the fuck is going on here.

    I blame it all on that fat tub of lard he now hangs around with. Phil the shemale has made the fact cunt even worse.

  136. Bird Flaps Says:

    List of stupid things Bird has posted or advocated in his blog or on other blogs:

    Einstein was wrong about special relativity.

    Egyptian pyramids were built 12000 years ago from concrete blocks used formerly as a sea wall, with the help of aliens.

    Photons do not exist. This means that Einstein was wrong about the photoelectric effect, which Einstein won his Nobel prize for.

    There is no limit to the speed of light.

    Aliens gene spliced their DNA with a mexican woman to produce a hybrid alien / human child 900 years ago.

    The sun has an iron core.

    The earth is expanding and its core is increasing in mass due to undetected electric forces. This means gravity was weaker in the past and that allowed big creatures like dinosaurs to walk.

    Evolution does not happen as explained by scientists, there wasn’t enough time, so aliens had to be involved.

    The big bang never happened.

    Supernovas cause earthquakes.

    The CIA killed JFK. They also developed fast acting darts that can kill people with cancer in just days.

    A quasi shadow government allowed terrorists to carry out the 911 attacks while placing explosives in the 3 WTC buildings to ensure they collapsed.

    The quasi shadow government caused the gulf oil spill.

    Bird is probably smarter than Richard Dawkins.

    John Maynard Keynes was a dummy.

    Bird considers himself to be a world authority on the scientific method, sound arguments, making economic transitions smooth and on monetary policy.

    No fiscal multiplier.

    Ludwig von Mises was a superior scientist to both Einstein and Neils Bohr.

    Global warming is wrong and is a lie.

    Obama was born in Kenya and is a marxist usurper.

    How’s that for a solid block of super concentrated stupid? I’m sure there is much more, especially on the topic of economics. Like Graeme, I don’t know much about that subject, so feel free to add to this list.

  137. Uncle Charlie Says:

    There’s also his theory that male homosexuality is caused by fractional reserve banking. And the use of liquid coal as currency. And setting up inland fortresses to protect us from the Chinese.

  138. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    We’re in the middle of a brutal and pulverizing ice age.

  139. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Churchill was a Nazi.

  140. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    The Jews may have experimented with human-animal hybrids.

  141. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    The Russians did 9/11.

  142. Bird is cunt Says:

    That’s correct liquefied coal to be used as money.

    What a fucking cunt he is. What a cocksucker Bird is.

  143. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    The pyramid is the most effective structure for all purposes.

  144. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    There’s nothing wrong with living your basement.

  145. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Liquefied coal can be used as currency and also to power satellites.

  146. Bird is cunt Says:

    i just went over there to have a peep and that fat slut is abusing that Tillman guy.

  147. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Jason Soon is a Nazi gook cunt.

  148. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    No you’re lying.

  149. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Where’s the evidence.

  150. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Leftist reversalism and sado-pigouvianism.

  151. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Now where’s that evidence.

  152. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Fractional reserve killed the Martians and it’s gonna kill us too.

  153. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    We need to get our power from barges with liquefied coal power plants.

  154. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    You lying cunt.

  155. Graeme Bird Says:

    You can’t prove there were no Martian kiddie-fiddlers messing around with our genes and terraforming with intelligent design you stupid gook cunt. Where is your evidence SOOOOOOOOON????

  156. Graeme Bird Says:

    And it’s not President Obama you cunt. He was born in Kenya of Maffia fractional-reservist communist Explodian parents and I’ve seen at least half a dozen birth certificates to prove it.

    Anyone who thinks I am a completely unhinged loon who takes it up the arse with Phil’s strap-on is lying.

  157. graemebird Says:

    From Wikipedia:

    “For the time, Reagan was unusual in his opposition to racial discrimination, and recalled a time in Dixon when the local inn would not allow black people to stay there. Reagan brought them back to his house, where his mother invited them to stay the night and have breakfast the next morning.[9]”

    We don’t have a good argument from Tillman. We have clutching of straws and ludicrous soothsaying. Tillman has to go into character as a racist to seem like a nice guy!!!??? Thats how much of a sick fuck he is. He gets in touch with his better character, and more human level, when he puts on the Ron Hanson hat.

    The fact is, allied policy is what lead to these monstrous civilian deaths in World War II. It was a total disaster that killed more millions of civilians then pretty much any other policy combination could have. And you guys, because you use CONSENSUS, social acceptability, the cult of personality, and punditry, as your conceptual mechanism, rather than REASON ……… you refuse to see this.

    Yes its true that its easy to find excuses for Churchill, and far less easy to find excuses for the communists surrounding Roosevelt and for Roosevelt himself. Roosevelt was a monster and enemy of civilization if we are willing to hold him accountable for his decisions. We can excuse Roosevelt, only to the extent that we can find him in the clutches of his communist-worm-tongue advisors. I do not know how to measure THAT extent. So I leave the question open. It is in the context of the apparent evil of policy under Roosevelt that we must understand the McCarthy phenomenon.

    Yes we can wring excuses out of the situation for Churchill. But we ought not be about excuses. We ought to be about learning from mistakes.

    The one man to learn from the mistakes of World War II was an old man. An old man who ought to have been home riding his horse and gathering flowers for his darling Nancy but felt he needed to stay in the game because his country was in so much trouble.

    Reagan went to Eureka College about the time of the genesis of The Great Depression. While he was there I believe he was working as a kitchen-hand in a girls residence. Contrary to what leftists might think today, the girls at that time were at least as thoughtful as our Western late-teen females in 2010. This was a time of massive improvement in air flight, since the Wright Brothers American-Monopoly, had been broken (out of necessity) in World War II.

    It then was the case (and this anecdote comes from around 1929-1932) that planes could theoretically carry bombs long distances to drop on civilian targets during war-time.

    Just to show you how smart the girls were at Eureka College in that era, they got in an argument with Dutch Reagan way back then. This was an argument wherein Reagan was proved wrong and the girls were proved right. Unlike you guys at Catallaxy, young Reagan was a fellow who knew when he had been proven totally wrong.

    TO BE CONTINUED

  158. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    “Reagan went to Eureka College about the time of the genesis of The Great Depression. While he was there I believe he was working as a kitchen-hand in a girls residence. Contrary to what leftists might think today, the girls at that time were at least as thoughtful as our Western late-teen females in 2010. This was a time of massive improvement in air flight, since the Wright Brothers American-Monopoly, had been broken (out of necessity) in World War II.”

    What a fucking idiot stream of consciousness that it.

    Totally pointless and incoherent gibberish.

  159. graemebird Says:

    No-no Tillman you fucking complete cunt.

    Thats reason. Thats REASON. Thats R.E.A.S.O.N.

    And you have nothing to oppose reason, and good historical skills, beyond you being a silly cunt.

    Now put your silly-cunt act aside for just one moment.

    What is the argument you have?

    The fact is you have no argument. And that you long for your stupidity to be accepted by other SILLY-CUNTS, not unlike yourself.

    My Prose Stands uncontested.

  160. THR Says:

    No you are lying.

    Reagan was a senile fool, responsible for economic misery at home, and terrorism abroad. You can’t accuse others of being war criminals whilst hiding behind the figure of a war criminal.

  161. Bird is cunt Says:

    You’re a lying cunt bird. You’re just a lying good for nothing cunt.

  162. BirdLab Says:

    Of course Graeme. And the Holocaust was caused by a housing shortage.

    What a useless, idiotic cunt you are. You should consider a career as a paperweight.

    But then again you wouldn’t be any good at that, either.

  163. . Says:

    “Reagan went to Eureka College about the time of the genesis of The Great Depression. While he was there I believe he was working as a kitchen-hand in a girls residence. Contrary to what leftists might think today, the girls at that time were at least as thoughtful as our Western late-teen females in 2010. This was a time of massive improvement in air flight, since the Wright Brothers American-Monopoly, had been broken (out of necessity) in World War II.”

    This is impossible.

    “Reagan was a senile fool, responsible for economic misery at home, and terrorism abroad. ”

    He had good economic policy and was soft on terrorism.

    “You can’t accuse others of being war criminals whilst hiding behind the figure of a war criminal.”

    Right, and Gadaffi was a saint. We’ve told Graeme to stop licking toads, now it’s your turn.

  164. Bird is a cunt Says:

    Bird,

    Get back here you cunt and answer everyone. However leave that fat slut back at your site though as we don’t want that smelly fat shemale here to ruin it.

  165. Philomena's job was botched Says:

    you said it Bird is a c

  166. Joe Stalin saved the West Says:

    explain yourself Birdbrain

  167. Good Old Uncle Joe Says:

    Yeah. Come on you gutless cunt. Explain the incoherent gibberish.

  168. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Bird, you are what James Joyce would have been if he was autistic and a total cunt.

  169. Good Old Uncle Joe Says:

    …autistic, a total cunt, and completely fucking illiterate.

  170. Joe Stalin saved the West Says:

    not to mention sexually aroused by farm animals and obese transgender homeless

  171. Good Old Uncle Joe Says:

    Plus being a cunting know-noting knobhead.

  172. Bird is a cunt Says:

    Bird:

    We’re waiting for you to answer to all these accusations of what a total cunt you are.

    Get on with it you fat cunt.

  173. Bird is a stud ... in a sheep farm Says:

    GO!!!

  174. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Bird is at the “total cunt” end of the autistic spectrum

  175. Stalin is one of my heroes, but I am a dimwitted cunt called Bird Says:

    The one thing that Bird might possibly be good at.

    He might be a no-nothing blowhard on the topics of science, economics and politics, but he is a quasi expert at deleting stuff.

    Congratulations to you at being reasonably good at this one thing, although you could improve by deleting all your own non coherent posts, ie 95% of this blog.

    Oh, and stop being a silly cunt.

  176. Stalin is one of my heroes, but I am a dimwitted cunt called Bird Says:

    What I meant was 95% of the blog titled:

    A Better World: Graeme Bird For High Office –
    Dearest blog. Cheapest Thinktank. Deepest Philosopher. Most Holistic Prophet.. and totally insane rantings of a COMPLETE & UTTER CUNT.

    🙂

  177. Bird is a cunt Says:

    Yep, that’s basically on the ball. Bird is a total and absolute cunt. I think we’ve established this to be right.

  178. Bird is a cunt cunt Says:

    Where’s that fat, ugly and nasty hag he hangs around with ? What about the shemale?

  179. The cunt known as Bird is a cunt cunt Says:

    S/he’s taken his/her new motor scooter to the repair shop to get new heavy duty suspension fitted, also a much bigger seat for when his/her lardarse boyfriend Birdy is pillion.

    I’d watch out for that maniac Phil, he’s probably gonna try and fill it with liquefied coal instead of petrol, the stupid cunt.

  180. That cunt Bird. Says:

    Does Bird know that Phil had a dick or does he choose to ignore this small factoid?

    Phil

  181. Birdlab, let me explain something to you Says:

  182. Graeme is in New Zealand organising a live-sheep sex-slavery operation Says:

    Bird has chosen to ignore the fact that Phil is endickened. He likes it up the arse.

  183. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Phil is endickened.

    Bird is encuntened.

    A match made in heaven.

    The Montgomomery-Bird-Phil clan of Human-Alien Hybrids is ready to commence reproduction.

    Gentlement, to your basements.

  184. Carlos De Jackel Says:

    wow!

    What the hell is going here.

    More of the Bird and Phil fan base I see.

  185. doodoohead Says:

    How exactly do you know Phil has a large dong? Have you seen it?

  186. Franklin D Roosevelt was the greatest president of all time Says:

    No, I think you’re talking about the size of Phil’s arse.

  187. Bird is cunt Says:

    Bird recently said you could float a huge oil tanker in between Phil’s fat arse cheeks and still would touch the sides.

    However I disagree, FDR, I still think they were talking about Phil’s huge schlong that Bird loves so much.

    That delusional cunt thinks its her clit when in fact its a huge dick.

  188. Bird thinks Adolf Hitler was just misunderstood Says:

    You speak much truth with great insight, Mr cunt.

  189. Philomena's clit is a cock that Bird likes to suck Says:

    you said it bro

  190. Bird is a cunt Says:

    Thanks, phil’s clit, I always try to speak truth to clits.

  191. Phil's clit is a dick Says:

    Yes cunt, I agree with the others. You’ve introduce a lot of wisdom to this discussion. Much, much more than you even realize.

  192. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    I think a carbon tax would be a good idea.

    Anyone have views on this?

  193. Lugubrious Goat Says:

    I thoroughly agree.

    And I think we need more public servants.

  194. Graeme Montgomery Doodoohead Says:

    Yes but only if we print new money to pay their salaries.

  195. Bird after receiving shock therapy and realizing what a cunt he has been Says:

    Guys,

    I read my blog in a new after I got back home yesterday. I now acknowledge that I have been a total cunt to 99% of people I have come across on the internet. For reasons, I think that stem from my early life on a sheep farm, I have turned from a reasonably bright kid into a middle aged, tubby, smart arse knowitall.

    The only times I deviate from this damaging persona is when interacting with Phil (I still luv ya hun) or after a few shandies, when I then become overly sentimental and post embarrassing drivel about music and literature.

    I vow to break down all the walls I’ve built up, and hope to earn your respect as a valued contributer to the ongoing debates.

    That’s if I take all my meds as required.

    Now where the fuck are my meds???? Cambria you lying bootnigger cunt, did you organise the theft of my fucking medical supplies? You cunt.

  196. Bird after receiving shock therapy and realizing what a cunt he has been Says:

    Oh,

    It should have said “I read my blog in a new WAY after I got back home yesterday”.

    Aren’t I even allowed to make a typo, Soon? Stop being a compulsive lying nazi gook cunt.

  197. George Gallaway Says:

    Ladies and gentlemen

    Please show Mr. Bird and his shemale friend some well deserved respect. He seems a well read fellow.

  198. Lugubrious Goat Says:

    I think the only thing Bird has read is Mein Kampf.

  199. Bird sucks dick Says:

    I don’t think Bird is a Nazi. I think he’s more of a pol pot type. He just hates classes of people.

  200. Lugubrious Goat Says:

    Like the Jews.

  201. bird sucks phils dick which is a clit Says:

    Get back here, you cunt and answer people asking questions.

    You cunt, Bird. You fat cunt.

  202. THR Says:

    Bird continues to lie over at his blog of shame:

    The Germans may have kicked off the war. But they were also magnanimous enough to call it off unconditionally.

    There you have it, folks. For Birdlinger, setting up puppet governments across Europe and co-opting them into the Holocaust is calling off the war, ‘unconditionally’.

    There are many complete fuckwits on Catallaxy. THR I find the most offensive.

    That’s because truth to you is like sunlight to vampires, Birdy. But by all means, keep eulogising the Nazis for their high ethical standards.

  203. BirdLab Says:

    Interestingly enough THR, for all his meaningless bleatings about ‘evidence’, I note that he has not offered one shred for his claim that the Holocaust was caused by a housing shortage. Not a document, not a quote, not a whit.

    All he has offered is bald assertion, based on a claim by some nutter who writes novels about wanking and excrement.

    And I remain to hear a detailed explanation of the link between the work of the Einsatzgruppen in the Ukraine, and a ‘housing shortage’ in Berlin, Hamburg, or Hanover.

    As somebody mentioned over at Catallaxy, bullshit is just that – bullshit.

  204. Bird fucks sheep Says:

    Bird is just a cunt. That’s all.

  205. Bird and Phil a match made in hell Says:

    Lie down with a far tranny and you wake up with AIDS

  206. . Says:

    “The Germans may have kicked off the war. But they were also magnanimous enough to call it off unconditionally. ”

    After they got the Christ bombed out of them and controlled no territory, no resources and their military were either dead or POWs.

    Bird. What. A. Fuck. Head.

  207. Bird sucks nazi cock Says:

    Of course the Nazis were good hearted, well meaning people that decided to call off hostilities.

    Bird, you stupid, moronic suckhole. We all knew it would eventually come to this; where you would be defending the Nazis.

    You stupid fuckhead..

  208. BirdLab Says:

    Bird thinks the Nazis were more like hippies really.

  209. Phil Says:

    Graeme Bird is my bitch.

  210. Philomena Says:

    The perpetually enchanting Mr Bird is to you rabble as an angel is to a pig.

  211. Philomena Says:

    It is true.
    I am transitioned.

    But unlike the rest of you, Mr Bird is a kind, sweet and tolerant man and does not care. No, he even relishes in the transgressivity of the act.

  212. Bird sucks nazi cock Says:

    Phil,

    When you’re with Bird, do you use a small or an over-sized strap on?

  213. Phil Says:

    Graeme like me to dress-up as Goering.

  214. Philomena Says:

    I don’t need a strapon. My thing still works. Bird likes it natural.

  215. Bird sucks nazi cock Says:

    In other words he prefers your dick, which he thinks is a clit, stuck up his fat and ugly arse?

    Let’s face facts Phil, all of us except Bird know you’re a man.

  216. Phil Says:

    He also likes me to dress-up as Eva Braun. He’s quite kinky, not to mention strangely pathetic and impotent.

  217. Bird, the Ladyboy Killer Says:

    Bird has recently been on a fact finding sex tour of Thailand. Phil is jealous, he didn’t know about Graeme’s thing for gook ladyboys.

  218. Phil Says:

    Graeme, why didn’t you tell me about this?

  219. Phil's clit is a dick says Says:

    So Bird was in Thailand hanging around with the boys? Ummmm

    He’s going to get the giant strap-on for this and the screams will be heard from one end of town to the other.

  220. Me Luv you long time Mr Bird Says:

    Apparently Bird is still in Thailand, but in between sessions he has found time to serenade Phil and at the same time attempt to quell those rumours of Phil having a dick.

    “Philomena can too sometimes look like an average middle aged woman. But she has far more ability than most normal mortal women to get herself into sex kitten shape.”

    “She is all female. She is so much female. She’s almost TOO female.”

    Birdy urging Phil to shape up and do some dirty dancing with him:

    “See this here slowed down version of the Beyonce song? This would make it easier for you to practice should you decide to submit to all my whims and not merely some of them. A gentleman doesn’t get anywhere by acting humble about these things.”

  221. Phil is a fat nasty trannie that farts loudly in public Says:

    I agree, Me love you long time. Mr Bird seems to want his trannie thin and youthful looking. Phil needs to shape up or ship the fuck out.

  222. Phil is a fat nasty trannie that farts loudly in public Says:

    I wonder how the fat bastard is doing in Thailand

  223. Me Luv you long time Mr Bird Says:

    Bird recovered from his hangover and deleted all the fucked up shit he wrote about Phil.

    He’s so predictable, have a beer or 2, then blog embarrassing drivel about music and his hardon for Phil, then wake up and realise what a fool he’s made of himself, yet again.

  224. Me Luv you long time Mr Bird Says:

    A question to other commenters posting here, do you think this barrage is getting to be too personal and insulting to Graeme?

    Is there anyone who thinks Graeme deserves to be treated more fairly?

  225. Phil is a fat nasty trannie that farts loudly in public Says:

    Too personal? Are you kidding. This is actually quite tame compared to what Bird and his trannie say about other people.

    Fuck those two cunts.

  226. BirdLab Says:

    Stop being mean to Graeme? Fuck that for a joke.

    If anything we’re not insulting enough.

  227. SuckPoppet Says:

    Bird is the most insulting deluded prick on the planet – no amount of insult is too much for him.
    Carry on at will …

  228. SuckPoppet Says:

    Bird’s latest http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2010/07/17/pz-myersthe-undeserved-arrogance-of-the-young-universe-creationist-mainstreamers-the-bangers/ is confounding beyond all belief.

    He is either a super-genius who knows more than the collective Nobel laureate physicists of all time or he is bat-shit insane.

    I wonder which?

  229. SuckPoppet Says:

    Bird – “But it would be a good thing if we had some sort of signal that could outrun light. Because we need advanced warning as to when a catastrophic pulse is coming our way.”

    Bu-wa-ha-ha-ha

    Thanks for the lulz mate, you crack me up 🙂

  230. Philomena Says:

    none of you bitter twisted misantrophes can match the depth and girth of my graeme,

  231. Philomena Says:

    the other Philomena is an impostor

    I for one am happy to share my beloved Gra-gra with any male, female or beast with the good taste to sample his pleasures

  232. Phil is a fat nasty trannie that farts loudly in public Says:

    Phil

    Can I say that no one would want to match your “fra gra”, you disgusting slut.

  233. Graeme sticks cucumbers up his backside Says:

    Phil and Bird: A right pair of cunts.

  234. Philomena Says:

    you are only envious Cambria, because my Gra-gra is so much more sexually adventurous than you.

    The things he can do with a feather, a skipping rope, or a belt. Oh my!

  235. Ian Thorpe Says:

    To whom it may concern

    I have known Graeme Montgomery Bird for many years. We have spent a lot of time together.

    And I would like to say that there is nothing even remotely fruity about him. Graeme is very firm and vigorous and one of the most masculine men I know.

    Graeme and I have many times gone on the prowl for pussy, and so I can so with absolute confidence that Graeme loves the poontang. Give Graeme a whiff of the bearded clam and he’s off like a rocket.

    He does not like cock. Not at all.

    Yours truly
    Ian Thorpe
    Winner of Many Gold Medals and Not Gay

  236. Philomena Says:

    Ian:

    I beg to differ. The Gra I know loves cock and over-sized strap-ons. In fact he can’t get enough of mine.

  237. Bird loves cock Says:

    Thanks Phil. Frankly I find Ian’s commenting deeply insulting, as I’ve preferred dick all my life.

  238. Phil's strap-on he uses on Bird Says:

    That’s bullshit. Total and absolute bullshit. Bird is a receiver not a giver. He loves a huge dildo strap right up his huge fat backside like no other “man” I know.

  239. Graeme 'Minty' Bird Says:

    Phil’s strap-on he uses on Bird is right you know.

  240. Phil's strap-on he uses on Bird Says:

    Tell me about it. Bird wakes up most of Sydney with his screams of delight.

  241. Graeme 'Minty' Bird Says:

    Phhhwwwwoooaaaarrrrr!!!!!!!

    http://www.thespiderawards.com/2007presentation/photoshow/winners/7_nature/pages/02_Roy%20McKeown_Snowy%20Sheep.htm

  242. Philomena Says:

    My Gra gra loves to both give and receive. He is generous that way.

  243. Philomena Says:

    Mock all you will but you will never partake of the pleasures that are mine (and a half dozen lucky sheep) alone.

    Gra-gra’s instrument is surprisingly petite for a man of his size but nonetheless he wields it as Picasso wielded his brush and paints a picture that rivals the Koran’s garden of a thousand delights.

  244. Phil's strap-on he uses on Bird Says:

    Phil, I would have thought Bird is a receiver rather than a giver. He seems far too selfish to be a giver.

  245. Graeme Bird's last non tranny girlfriend who dumped him for being a lardarse psychopathic cunt Says:

    “Phil’s strap-on he uses on Bird” is not only correct, but this savvy commenter has demonstrated much greater wisdom, intelligence and insight in 3 posts than Graeme has ever shown in all his postings anywhere on the internet.

    Baa Baa 🙂

  246. Graeme 'Minty' Bird Says:

    I admit it. I am a complete and utter cunt who doesn’t know the difference between the bearded clam and a screwdriver.

  247. Philomena Says:

    There, there Mr Bird.

    You do give such good head.

  248. Graeme 'Minty' Bird Says:

    Well I’ve always enjoyed playing the mouth organ.

  249. To my old girlfriend from Gra Gra - I'm sorry for being a cunt, but I still love ewe Says:

    Please forgive me. I know I’ve been a dumb cunt, but when I’m elected to high office and also reunite the DLP, if ewe’ll let me, I will find a job for ewe, maybe my PA, but don’t be nasty to Phil.

    You’ll come to like him, we can go on long bike rides, all 3 of us, and who knows what else could happen. My future’s looking so bright now.

  250. Phil is a fat nasty trannie that farts loudly in public Says:

    Does anyone know why on earth Bird allows that fat cunt phill on his site?

  251. graemebird Says:

    Right. Now that we’re finished with that nonsense, who’s voting for me in Dobell?

  252. (yet another) Ron Pauline Hanson Says:

    The five common characteristics of pseudo-scientists (from Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science by Martin Gardner):

    1. The pseudo-scientist considers himself a genius.
    2. He regards other researchers as stupid, dishonest or both. By choice or necessity he operates outside the peer review system (hence the title of the original Antioch Review article, “The Hermit Scientist”).
    3. He believes there is a campaign against his ideas, a campaign compared with the persecution of Galileo or Pasteur.
    4. Instead of side-stepping the mainstream, the pseudo-scientist attacks it head-on: The most revered scientist is Einstein so he is the most likely establishment figure to be attacked.
    5. He coins neologisms.

    Sound like anyone we know?

  253. Bird is a classic example of the Kruger-Dunning effect Says:

    Graeme’s critique of John C Baez’s crackpot index, all of Bird’s comments in CAPS.

    http://graemebird.wordpress.com/2010/04/09/john-c-baez-anti-science-idiot-right-here-in-sydney/

    FURTHER DELINIATION OF THE PZ MYERS APPROACH TO SCIENCE. BRANDING LOGICAL PEOPLE AS CRANKS BY WAY OF A POINT SYSTEM. YOU COULD NOT MAKE THIS IDIOCY UP. BUT THIS IS HOW THESE UNSCIENTISTS THINK.

    A simple method for rating potentially revolutionary contributions to physics:

    A -5 point starting credit.

    1 point for every statement that is widely agreed on to be false.

    AGREED BY WHOM?

    (((2 points for every statement that is clearly vacuous.

    HOW COULD MAINSTREAM PHYSICS JUDGE SUCH A THING. HAVING REJECTED LOGIC?

    3 points for every statement that is logically inconsistent.

    YOU MUST MEAN THE DOCTRINE OF TIME DILATION RIGHT?

    5 points for each such statement that is adhered to despite careful correction.)))

    SO IT DOESN’T MATTER IF THE CORRECTION WASN’T CORRECT RIGHT?

    BLUFF AND PROJECTION

    (((5 points for using a thought experiment that contradicts the results of a widely accepted real experiment.)))

    WIDELY ACCEPTED BY WHOM

    5 points for each word in all capital letters (except for those with defective keyboards).

    IRRELEVANT.

    5 points for each mention of “Einstien”, “Hawkins” or “Feynmann”.

    IDIOCY. THE FUCKING MORON PZ MYERS QUOTED FEYNMANN WHEN HE WAS GIVING A SPEECH IN MY COUNTRY.

    10 points for each claim that quantum mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).

    THE ABOVE STATEMENT PROOF THAT THE QUANTUM HANGERS ON ARE AMONGST THE STUPIDEST PEOPLE IN THE WORLD. YOU CANNOT MAKE THE ABOVE STUPIDITY UP. ANY QUESTIONING OF THE STUPID IDEAS OF THE PUBLIC SECTOR IS IMMEDIATELY HELD TO BE THE SUBJECT OF SCORN. QUANTUM PHYSICS IS IDIOCY, SINCE IT PROPOSES NO STRUCTURE FOR THE LITTLE WORLD. NO SHAPE. EVERYTHING MATHEMATICAL THE DUMB BASTARDS DON’T KNOW WHAT THEY MEAN WHEN THEY SAY THINGS. THEY GET SHIRTY IF YOU TALK ABOUT ORBITS. BUT THEN AFTER CHANGING THE WORD TO ORBITALS, THE MORONS CANNOT TELL YOU WHY OR DEFINE AN ORBITAL. QUANTUM MECHANICS ADVOCATES MUST BE THE MOST STUPID PEOPLE IN THE WORLD.

    10 points for pointing out that you have gone to school, as if this were evidence of sanity.

    YOU CANNOT DEFEND YOURSELF AGAINST LYING CHARGES WHEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IDIOTS LIKE PZ MYERS.

    10 points for beginning the description of your theory by saying how long you have been working on it. (10 more for emphasizing that you worked on your own.)

    ANYTHING YOU SAY WILL BE USED TO CONDEMN YOU UNDER THE PZ MYERS APPROACH.

    10 points for mailing your theory to someone you don’t know personally and asking them not to tell anyone else about it, for fear that your ideas will be stolen.

    A TRUE SCIENTIST WOULD ONLY BE TOO HAPPY TO LISTEN TO ANY NEW IDEAS.

    10 points for offering prize money to anyone who proves and/or finds any flaws in your theory.

    IT DOESN’T MATTER WHAT YOU DO, YOU CANNOT SHAME OR BRIBE THINKING OUT OF SOMEONE AS STUPID AS PZ MYERS.

    10 points for each new term you invent and use without properly defining it.

    TIME FOR THE BULLY BOYS TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

    10 points for each statement along the lines of “I’m not good at math, but my theory is conceptually right, so all I need is for someone to express it in terms of equations”.

    YOU DON’T EVEN NEED THAT. A GOOD THEORY DESCRIBES THINGS. AND MATHEMATICAL FORMULAS ARE NO SUBSTITUTE FOR THEORY. QUALITATIVE REASONING IS INDEED MORE IMPORTANT THAN MATHS. BUT BOTH ARE NEEDED. NOT NECESSARILY IN THE ONE PERSON. MATHS IS A TOOL. LIKE A HAMMER OR A CHAINSAW.

    10 points for arguing that a current well-established theory is “only a theory”, as if this were somehow a point against it.

    NO ARGUMENT NO MATTER HOW RATIONAL WILL BE ACCEPTABLE. IT IS IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT DUMB THEORIES ARE IN FACT ONLY THEORIES. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO SPECIAL RELATIVITY AND THE BIG BANG THESE NEVER GOT PAST THEORY STAGE. SINCE THEY LACKED EVIDENCE IN THEIR FAVOUR. AND THEY WERE SUBSEQUENTLY PROVED WRONG.

    10 points for arguing that while a current well-established theory predicts phenomena correctly, it doesn’t explain “why” they occur, or fails to provide a “mechanism”.

    ANOTHER GOOD ARGUMENT NOT ACCEPTABLE BECAUSE OF IT BEING A GOOD ARGUMENT. SPECIAL RELATIVITY HAD SOME PREDICTIVE VALUE EARLY ON. NOT A GREAT DEAL BY THE WAY. WE ALREADY KNEW MERCURY’S ORBIT SO THAT WASN’T A PREDICTION OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY. THE BIG BANG THEORY DIDN’T PREDICT ANYTHING SUCESSFULLY. WHERE THE DECEPTION IS HERE IS THAT WHEN AN IDIOT LIKE PZ MYERS SAYS THAT WORD “PREDICT” HE DOESN’T MEAN IT. HE MEANS THAT THE THEORY COULD ACCOMMODATE THE DATA AFTER THE FACT.

    10 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Einstein, or claim that special or general relativity are fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).

    MAINSTREAM PHYSICS IS ALL ABOUT THE CULT OF PERSONALITY.

    10 points for claiming that your work is on the cutting edge of a “paradigm shift”.

    NO MATTER HOW HONEST YOU ARE IT WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU.

    20 points for emailing me and complaining about the crackpot index. (E.g., saying that it “suppresses original thinkers” or saying that I misspelled “Einstein” in item 8.)

    THATS PRECISELY WHAT THE STUPID CUNT IS DOING. ACTUALLY I’M GOING TO FIND OUT WHO WROTE THIS IDIOCY AND EMAIL HIM. JUST TO POINT OUT WHAT A LAUGHABLE STUPID CUNT HE IS. I MIGHT GO AND POKE FUN AT HIM IN LECTURES.

    20 points for suggesting that you deserve a Nobel prize.

    I WOULDN’T WISH SUCH IGNOMY ON A WORST ENEMY.

    20 points for each favorable comparison of yourself to Newton or claim that classical mechanics is fundamentally misguided (without good evidence).

    THIS FELLOW IS SO FUCKING DUMB, HE DOESN’T REALISE HE IS TOTALLY AGAINST CLASSICAL MECHANICS.

    20 points for every use of science fiction works or myths as if they were fact.

    YOU MEAN LIKE THE MYTH OF THE SINGULARITY? THE MYTH OF AN ULTIMATE SPEED LIMIT?THE MYTH OF THE BIG BANG? THE PHOTON-MYTH? THE MYTHICAL SPACE-TIME?

    DUMB FUCKING MORONIC PROJECTION AGAIN.

    20 points for defending yourself by bringing up (real or imagined) ridicule accorded to your past theories.

    I’D JUST BASH THIS CUNT ON SIGHT IF HE TRIED TO RIDICULE ME. SEE WHO WOULD BE LAUGHING THEN.

    20 points for naming something after yourself. (E.g., talking about the “The Evans Field Equation” when your name happens to be Evans.)

    COMPLETELY FUCKING NORMAL BEHAVIOUR. ANY THEORY I HAVE I’M CALLING IT AFTER ME. THIS IS CLEARLY SAID BY SOMEONE TOO USELESS TO SUSS OUT A NEW IDEA AND JEALOUS OF HIS SUPERIORS.

    20 points for talking about how great your theory is, but never actually explaining it.

    IDIOTS LEFTIST PROJECTION. SO TELL US ABOUT QUANTUM MECHANICS SHIT-FOR-BRAINS.

    20 points for each use of the phrase “hidebound reactionary”.

    A FINE PHRASE. WHAT A STUPID CUNT HEY?

    20 points for each use of the phrase “self-appointed defender of the orthodoxy”.

    ANOTHER EXCELLENT PHRASE. THIS FELLOW COULD REALLY NOT BE MORE OF A DUMB CUNT IF WE PAID HIM TO BE.

    30 points for suggesting that a famous figure secretly disbelieved in a theory which he or she publicly supported. (E.g., that Feynman was a closet opponent of special relativity, as deduced by reading between the lines in his freshman physics textbooks.)

    IF FEYNMAN WASN’T A CLOSET OPPONENT OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY THEN HE WAS A STUPID CUNT. WHAT DO YOU THINK? I’LL TRUST YOUR JUDGEMENT EITHER WAY.

    30 points for suggesting that Einstein, in his later years, was groping his way towards the ideas you now advocate.

    THATS A POSSIBILITY

    30 points for claiming that your theories were developed by an extraterrestrial civilization (without good evidence).

    WELL THIS ONE COMES FROM BILL GAEDE. BUT I’M SURE THERE WERE PRECEDENTS. OF COURSE AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILISATION WOULD HAVE IT RIGHT. THEY ARE NOT TRAVELING THAT MANY LIGHT-YEARS ON THE ADVICE OF OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS.

    40 points for comparing those who argue against your ideas to Nazis, stormtroopers, or brownshirts.

    THE COMPARISON COULD NOT BE MORE APPROPRIATE. THERE IS ALWAYS A MINDLESS TOTALITARIAN EDGE TO THE SPECIALISTS WHO HOLD TO THESE WRONG THEORIES. “YOU WILL BELIEVE 2+2=5″, IS WHAT THEY APPEAR TO BE SAYING.

    40 points for claiming that the “scientific establishment” is engaged in a “conspiracy” to prevent your work from gaining its well-deserved fame, or suchlike.

    WELL NOT MY WORK NO. THEY ARE JUST TOTALLY AGAINST ANY GOOD WORK.

    40 points for comparing yourself to Galileo, suggesting that a modern-day Inquisition is hard at work on your case, and so on.

    WELL IF IT WERE TRUE IT WOULD NOT BE WRONG TO SUGGEST IT.

    40 points for claiming that when your theory is finally appreciated, present-day science will be seen for the sham it truly is. (30 more points for fantasizing about show trials in which scientists who mocked your theories will be forced to recant.)

    THEY ARE A SHAM NOW. THEY ARE FUCKING MORONS. LOOK AT THE FUCKING MORON WHO PRODUCED THIS TESTIMONY TO PROUD, BELLIGERENT, AND TERMINAL STUPIDITY.

    50 points for claiming you have a revolutionary theory but giving no concrete testable predictions.

    THATS JUST SILLY. WE ALREADY KNOW THE SPEED OF LIGHT SO ITS NOT UNKNOWN FOR US TO PREDICT. SO YOU PROVE THAT LIGHT IS NOT MADE OF PHOTONS. HOW WILL THAT CHANGE LIGHTS BEHAVIOUR. NAME A LOT OF CHEAP PREDICTIONS WE COULD MAKE? NONE JUMP TO MIND. BECAUSE WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT THE OUTCOME WILL BE FOR ALL THE CHEAP STUFF.

    ONCE AGAIN THE STUPID CUNT HAS RUN AGROUND BECAUSE HE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT “PREDICT” MEANS.

    WHAT A STUPID CUNT THIS FELLOW IS.

  254. Cousin Achmed Says:

    What a cunt he is.

  255. graemebird Says:

    PZ Myers is such a fucking dummy. I wonder if Dawkins understands that he’s got such a light-weight fathead on the team.

  256. achmed the first dead terrorist Says:

    Is he stupider than you?

  257. Wombat Says:

    Bird is such a dumb cunt.

  258. graemebird Says:

    I’m smart. But Myers is a fool. Probably one of these hyper-incompetent Jews that we have been assailed with.

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